Extra Gun Mid?? Does it work??

Jalapeno · February 10, 2012, 01:37:22 PM

Hi all i have decided to maybe go an extra gun mid as i couldnt decide whether to have barlow or not. But i will be kicking myself when he is banging out the tons and i dont have him. But then i couldnt bring myself to givinh any of my other guns the boot.

So i have a midfield consisting of Swan, Murphy, Selwood, Thompson, Barlow, Treloar with Shiel and Mitchell as subs.

To do this it makes my backline a bit weaker. I have Goddard, Deledio, Suckling, Grimes, Clarke, Morris, Bugg and wilkes and smedts as my subs.

So what im getting at is do you think its worth having barlow in the mids rather than a rookie and upgrading a def rook to someone like birchall or adcock?

Thanks in advance ppl.

;D

Presto · February 10, 2012, 02:20:55 PM

+1
I have GAJ, Rockliff, Mitchell, Selwood and Barlow, although I am still unsure between him and Hayes.

kilbluff1985 · February 10, 2012, 02:26:33 PM

Not worth it

There's heaps of rookie mids to pick from this year to pick from that will get games and make you $$$$ more then forwards or def rookie would and mid rookies are easier to get more games

And Rockliff is really risky as your second premium mid would rather a proven performer like Murphy or Swan

Jalapeno · February 10, 2012, 02:36:19 PM

Yeah i am unsure between barlow, hayes and van berlo???
I have a feeling van berlo may break out in a mega way with the draw adelaide have got.

Holz · February 10, 2012, 02:47:56 PM

its worth it if you dont feel you are hurting your other lines, for example i have gone Hmac over a premium and in the forward line i have picked guys like christenson and brown. The best advice is to make your other lines and if you have the cash get the 5 mids. If you pick the 5 mids than skimp everyone and your not happy with your other lines than its a bad idea.

I would say remove barlow and see if you can make your team better, for me i cant because it would mean trading out hmac, christenson or brown and i want them. The forward line has great rookies in my opinion and there are some good guys down back. With alot of the good mids in my opinion too expensive because they were high draft picks im happy having only 3 at this stage. Just making sure im not wasting any mid spots with DPP players

Jukes · February 10, 2012, 04:05:52 PM

I'm going 4 guns and Barlow. Swan and Ablett are locks, then Rockliff is a personal lock, Gibbs I have in at 4th atm but it's mostly a competition between him, Selwood and Murphy for that spot, which will be told during the NAB cup. And then there's Michael "How many different ways can you say locked" Barlow.

Having a fair amount of gun mids is great as they can provide some massive contributions to your team, just make sure you don't underpower other positions and get gun rookies like Shiel, Clifton, McDonald, Zorko etc to back them up.

Kuruki · February 10, 2012, 04:24:36 PM

There's more chance your going to find a back rookie that averages closer to a back premium then finding a mid rook that averages close to a mid premium.

Most of us will look for 110 as bottom line for a gun mid.
In the back's 90 would be a great bottom line for your last defender.

That means to get a similar result when you weigh up cashcow vs points difference between rook and premium, and considering how long you can get away with keeping the rookie before you fall behind the pack. If your mid rook averaged 80 points in comparison a back would only need to avg 60. I think there is way more benefit in having mid premiums and back rooks, rather then back premiums and mid rooks.

Points win dreamteam not money. Look at last years results. There was higher priced teams beaten by sides that had more points on the board, that were worth less cash. For me it's all about more points asap.

Presto · February 10, 2012, 04:44:27 PM

Quote from: kilbluff1995 on February 10, 2012, 02:26:33 PM
Not worth it

There's heaps of rookie mids to pick from this year to pick from that will get games and make you $$$$ more then forwards or def rookie would and mid rookies are easier to get more games

Not relevant. How many rookie mids do you need? I have Mitchell, Miles and Shiel + Treloar and Zorko in the forward line and Docherty in defence. That is 6 out of my ten rookies. (3 def, 3 mid, and 4 fwd)

Quote from: kilbluff1995 on February 10, 2012, 02:26:33 PM
And Rockliff is really risky as your second premium mid would rather a proven performer like Murphy or Swan

Maybe, but everybody will have Murphy(14%) and Swan (33%), Rockliff (4%) is a bit more unique

Torpedo10 · February 10, 2012, 05:19:24 PM

Nah, I've gone with 4 gun mids ad 2 rookie starters.

elephants · February 11, 2012, 03:42:57 AM

Quote from: Torpedo10 on February 10, 2012, 05:19:24 PM
Nah, I've gone with 4 gun mids ad 2 rookie starters.

+1.
I played with this idea but it weakened my other lines too much and there are so many good rookies in the midfield this year.

owenbond007 · February 11, 2012, 04:18:10 AM

last year this would of been the ideal tactic as forw/backs were way to inconsistent. Im going 4 stars with barlow as their wingman atm as long as you have back/forw rookies pumping out ok i honestly cant see why it wouldnt work. As long as you have 3 rookies in each pos bar rucks 2. And wisely pick your mid-pricers you will make enough cash to smash it. You can fall into a trap of playing to many rookies and end up being left short when they play a few games and then go mia.

Spite · February 12, 2012, 03:28:09 AM

...So no one else is going with 2 gun mids... awkward...

In probably too simple terms, coniglio/wingard will hopefully score 30 pts each more than a defender rookie, and a defender super premium (deledio/shaw/suckling etc) will hopefully score within 30 of a premium midfielder.

I have a feeling that backlines are going to go crazy with this press this year and rack it up, so I am investing in that :S

owenbond007 · February 12, 2012, 04:23:47 AM

Spite if you set up with 2 gun mids ill let you in on my $100 buy in league

Kuruki · February 12, 2012, 10:38:34 AM

Quote from: Spite on February 12, 2012, 03:28:09 AM
...So no one else is going with 2 gun mids... awkward...

In probably too simple terms, coniglio/wingard will hopefully score 30 pts each more than a defender rookie, and a defender super premium (deledio/shaw/suckling etc) will hopefully score within 30 of a premium midfielder.

I have a feeling that backlines are going to go crazy with this press this year and rack it up, so I am investing in that :S

Considering David Swallow averaged 76 last season and he went very well, i highly doubt you are going to get anywhere near 30 points on a back rook. That would mean if Coniglio scored similar to Swallow your expecting a 46 avg from your back rookie's.

elephants · February 12, 2012, 02:15:14 PM

Quote from: Spite on February 12, 2012, 03:28:09 AM
...So no one else is going with 2 gun mids... awkward...

In probably too simple terms, coniglio/wingard will hopefully score 30 pts each more than a defender rookie, and a defender super premium (deledio/shaw/suckling etc) will hopefully score within 30 of a premium midfielder.

I have a feeling that backlines are going to go crazy with this press this year and rack it up, so I am investing in that :S

Hmmmm I hope I play you early then in our leagues Spite cos your final team will be pretty damn strong while it suffers early.