WXV Trades

[meow meow]

Feeling unbalanced? Need support? Just want that extra bit of insurance when things go backwards? Then come the Berlin Brewers where we can offer you defence. It is here where you will find all our options neatly set out and easy to read.

The Pacific Islanders can offer you not only defenders but midfielders too. Quality ones too. ;)

I see no quality :P

Then you sure are blind. ::)

Yep I was blinded from looking at your shower team :P

Blame crok.

Exactly. I am trying to fix do the incompetencies of the previous administration. I can't be held responsible for that.

I am hoping that people will be able to trade with me even though I might be disadvantaged.  :)

You're impossible to trade with :P

Confirmed.

[c4v3m4n]

Feeling unbalanced? Need support? Just want that extra bit of insurance when things go backwards? Then come the Berlin Brewers where we can offer you defence. It is here where you will find all our options neatly set out and easy to read.

The Pacific Islanders can offer you not only defenders but midfielders too. Quality ones too. ;)

I see no quality :P

Then you sure are blind. ::)

Yep I was blinded from looking at your shower team :P

Blame crok.

Exactly. I am trying to fix do the incompetencies of the previous administration. I can't be held responsible for that.

I am hoping that people will be able to trade with me even though I might be disadvantaged.  :)

You're impossible to trade with :P

Confirmed.

It's a two way street fellas.  ;)

[Boomz]

Feeling unbalanced? Need support? Just want that extra bit of insurance when things go backwards? Then come the Berlin Brewers where we can offer you defence. It is here where you will find all our options neatly set out and easy to read.

The Pacific Islanders can offer you not only defenders but midfielders too. Quality ones too. ;)

I see no quality :P

Then you sure are blind. ::)

Yep I was blinded from looking at your shower team :P

Blame crok.

Exactly. I am trying to fix do the incompetencies of the previous administration. I can't be held responsible for that.

I am hoping that people will be able to trade with me even though I might be disadvantaged.  :)

You're impossible to trade with :P

Confirmed.

It's a two way street fellas.  ;)

and you don't come halfway :P

[c4v3m4n]

Feeling unbalanced? Need support? Just want that extra bit of insurance when things go backwards? Then come the Berlin Brewers where we can offer you defence. It is here where you will find all our options neatly set out and easy to read.

The Pacific Islanders can offer you not only defenders but midfielders too. Quality ones too. ;)

I see no quality :P

Then you sure are blind. ::)

Yep I was blinded from looking at your shower team :P

Blame crok.

Exactly. I am trying to fix do the incompetencies of the previous administration. I can't be held responsible for that.

I am hoping that people will be able to trade with me even though I might be disadvantaged.  :)

You're impossible to trade with :P

Confirmed.

It's a two way street fellas.  ;)

and you don't come halfway :P

Plus, let it be known that it was for a previous trading game. In that game, you can't blame me for trying to get the best deals, as there was no vetoing power. So I could get away with anything. :P

This is a totally different game, where I am prepared to offer up fair and reasonable deals, but you have to willing to play fair too.... :-X

[Boomz]

Feeling unbalanced? Need support? Just want that extra bit of insurance when things go backwards? Then come the Berlin Brewers where we can offer you defence. It is here where you will find all our options neatly set out and easy to read.

The Pacific Islanders can offer you not only defenders but midfielders too. Quality ones too. ;)

I see no quality :P

Then you sure are blind. ::)

Yep I was blinded from looking at your shower team :P

Blame crok.

Exactly. I am trying to fix do the incompetencies of the previous administration. I can't be held responsible for that.

I am hoping that people will be able to trade with me even though I might be disadvantaged.  :)

You're impossible to trade with :P

Confirmed.

It's a two way street fellas.  ;)

and you don't come halfway :P

Plus, let it be known that it was for a previous trading game. In that game, you can't blame me for trying to get the best deals, as there was no vetoing power. So I could get away with anything. :P

This is a totally different game, where I am prepared to offer up fair and reasonable deals, but you have to willing to play fair too.... :-X

Meh I'm just trying to get people to stay away from trading with you and trade with me instead :P dogfu

[meow meow]

Feeling unbalanced? Need support? Just want that extra bit of insurance when things go backwards? Then come the Berlin Brewers where we can offer you defence. It is here where you will find all our options neatly set out and easy to read.

The Pacific Islanders can offer you not only defenders but midfielders too. Quality ones too. ;)

I see no quality :P

Then you sure are blind. ::)

Yep I was blinded from looking at your shower team :P

Blame crok.

Exactly. I am trying to fix do the incompetencies of the previous administration. I can't be held responsible for that.

I am hoping that people will be able to trade with me even though I might be disadvantaged.  :)

You're impossible to trade with :P

Confirmed.

It's a two way street fellas.  ;)

and you don't come halfway :P

Plus, let it be known that it was for a previous trading game. In that game, you can't blame me for trying to get the best deals, as there was no vetoing power. So I could get away with anything. :P

This is a totally different game, where I am prepared to offer up fair and reasonable deals, but you have to willing to play fair too.... :-X

Meh I'm just trying to get people to stay away from trading with you and trade with me instead :P dogfu

I'm just trying to make the quote box bigger.

[Boomz]

Feeling unbalanced? Need support? Just want that extra bit of insurance when things go backwards? Then come the Berlin Brewers where we can offer you defence. It is here where you will find all our options neatly set out and easy to read.

The Pacific Islanders can offer you not only defenders but midfielders too. Quality ones too. ;)

I see no quality :P

Then you sure are blind. ::)

Yep I was blinded from looking at your shower team :P

Blame crok.

Exactly. I am trying to fix do the incompetencies of the previous administration. I can't be held responsible for that.

I am hoping that people will be able to trade with me even though I might be disadvantaged.  :)

You're impossible to trade with :P

Confirmed.

It's a two way street fellas.  ;)

and you don't come halfway :P

Plus, let it be known that it was for a previous trading game. In that game, you can't blame me for trying to get the best deals, as there was no vetoing power. So I could get away with anything. :P

This is a totally different game, where I am prepared to offer up fair and reasonable deals, but you have to willing to play fair too.... :-X

Meh I'm just trying to get people to stay away from trading with you and trade with me instead :P dogfu

I'm just trying to make the quote box bigger.

So am I :P

[c4v3m4n]

(Chain break)

Well anyway.

The Pacific Islanders are happy to hear any and all reasonable and fair offers on any our defenders and midfielders except Judd and Gibson.

We are looking for one of the following things:

• A defender that averages 75+
• A young up and coming/developing ruckman
• A young forward that is currently in their teams best 22

We look forward to working with you all during the trade period (opening tomorrow).

[meow meow]

We've had a bit of an incident at training.

One of our players was getting too big for his boots, and had to be put in his place. Management has decided that it's probably best if we seperate these players and see if we can trade one of them away. One of the players involved is a legend, and untouchable. We see him as a vital part of our defense for the next 7-8 years, so the other one has got to go.

[Maca24]

Ok guys so I am taking offers on the following players:

Billy Longer - Future Dean Cox of SC.
Kieran Harper - Young Kanga.
Daniel Talia - 20yr old backman.


Will listen to offers for other players but I would really like to strike deals with these 3.
PM me  :)

[meow meow]

We have a player available that people might be VERY interested in after these few statistics:

Age: Turning 21 in May

Season games: 19 (inc 3 finals)

Season average: 86.4*

Finals average: 80

Position: Fwd/Mid


*not including scores when he was used as the sub. He still managed to score 66 in one of those games. That's right, a premiership player who will have certain JS averaged 86.4 in his first season as a small forward. Better than Gazza!

[Holz]

We have a player available that people might be VERY interested in after these few statistics:

Age: Turning 21 in May

Season games: 19 (inc 3 finals)

Season average: 86.4*

Finals average: 80

Position: Fwd/Mid


*not including scores when he was used as the sub. He still managed to score 66 in one of those games. That's right, a premiership player who will have certain JS averaged 86.4 in his first season as a small forward. Better than Gazza!

im interested in christenson

[meow meow]

Let's say you have a 20 year old mid averaging 80, with potential to improve. You wouldn't trade them for a 30 year old mid averaging 90, would you? Of course you wouldn't. However, if the 30 year old averaged 100 you might look at it. Therefore I am going to apply the theory that 1 year = 2 points.

Other factors taken into account will be that when being swapped for mids, the forwards and backs are going to have to have 5-10 points added value depending on how high up the rankings they are expected to be in their respective positions. Franklin for example, who averaged 110, is equal in value to a 120 point averaging mid of the same age.

Everyone is going to have their own opinions of what the expectations are, but it shouldn't be too difficult to get a rough estimate based on history, and factors such as natural improvement due to an extra preseason and more experience. Franklin should be looked at as a 110 averaging player again. Andrew Gaff should not be looked at as a 60 averaging player.

These should be some guidelines taken into account when deciding on if trades are fair. It's what i'll be doing if you attempt to trade with me. It's all logical, so it should be rather simple to know what I am going to think of a trade before you even ask. The only thing up for debate is what our expectations are.

I rate rucks to be the most valuable because of how quickly the quality drops off. An early 'first round' ruck pick is worth a hell of a lot more than a 2nd round (pick 19+) ruckman. Dean Cox vs Seaby. It doesn't hurt as much in the mids. Pendles vs Gibbs. You'll still get a good enough mid with the early 2nd round pick. Rucks 1st, Forwards and Backs equal, mids last IMO.

If you rank players in their positions, you should be able to see what is fair. Don't take age into account yet.
Pendles is number 1 for mids. Franklin is number 1 for forwards. Minimal age difference. Output isn't expected to change. Fair trade.
Wells is about the 20th best mid. Petrie is about the 15th best forward. This says Petrie is worth more, but Petrie is a little bit older so it's close enough to being even, despite the fact that Wells averaged 10 points more.


Using this logic, and rating Christensen as a 90 point player based on his 2011 average of 86* and expected improvement, this puts him at about the 20th best forward. *= full games not used as the sub. I don't expect the Cats to use him as the sub after having another year of development into him and another preseason. So I would be expecting about the 20th best mid for him, maybe higher if they are significantly older than him. Christensen for Gibbs (as a mid only) sounds crazy, but it would be a fair trade.

[ossie85]

Trade Negotiations start NOW. No official trades can happen until 8AM Next Thursday, where a 2 week trade period will open up.

Remember, you HAVE to trade 1 for 1, 2 for 2, 3 for 3, 4 for 4. Can only have FOUR trades.

[Maca24]

Ok guys so I am taking offers on the following players:

Billy Longer - Future Dean Cox of SC.
Kieran Harper - Young Kanga.
Daniel Talia - 20yr old backman.


Will listen to offers for other players but I would really like to strike deals with these 3.
PM me  :)

Add Kyle Hardingham in the mix.
I have recieved a lot of offers with him, but I am only taking the one that benefits me the most.