This is where I'm at so far, Again!

jasonweare · January 08, 2012, 01:52:38 PM

The team may be a bit top heavy, but i'm not taking any risk on mid pricers, just prems/rooks. Looking for top scorers from round 1. Not worrying about the byes from round 1, but work towards the 8/11/11 strategy by round 10. And rooks aren't locked till after NAB cup and picked for round 1.

Backs: Goddard, Deledio, H.Shaw, Enright, Tomlinson, Ellis, Morris, (Talia, Brown)
Mids: Pendlebury, Ablett, Swan, Murphy, Miles, Kavanagh, (McDonald, Couch)
Rucks: Leuenberger, West, (Giles, Stephensen)
Forwards: Franklin, Johnson, Pavlich, Martin, Saad, Cameron, Zorko, (Smedts, Kerridge)

what do you guys think?

Ringo · January 08, 2012, 02:43:18 PM

Do not get hung up on the 8/11/11 strategy as due to the way the teams with byes are set it is going to be nigh impossible to avoid one or two donuts during the bye rounds. Have been working on different permutations and structures for about six weeks now and the best I can come up with is one donut. So set your best team and keep that going and reassess closer to byes.
Regards your Team:
Backs: Assuming it is Heath Shaw Good with 4 prems 3 rookies. Not sold on Enright who is now 31 years old and his SC scores have been declining since his peak in 2008. Maybe look at similar priced to replace maybe Fisher, Broughton, Suckling or Birchall.
Mids: Can not fault 4 prem 2 rooks policy
Rucks: Not the Traditional with Prem and Medium price which I do not mind and West will be No 1 in cattery. J
Forwards: Again strong with 4/3 strategy

Only suggestion I would make is you have some DPP in Prems but no link to mids. I would look at having a mid rookies as 2 best with bench consisting of the best performing rookies one with a Back Mid DPP and One with a forward Mid DPP to give you flexibility.

One of the better teams I have seen at this stage. 8.5/10

lozza63 · January 08, 2012, 05:58:59 PM

Very nice squad - 8.5/10 here.

I suppose West will be one of the first to upgrade? Hopefully he can average 80 for you!

dmac07 · January 08, 2012, 09:02:51 PM

Backs: Very strong, would also suggest looking elsewhere than enright but thats not a big deal.

Mids: Very strong, like the 4 set and forget premiums.

Rucks: If your going to go with the one premium than this is fine, any of Leu/Goldstein/Mumford works here.

Fwds: Again 4 good choices and rookies to be swapped as the nab cup unfolds.

A good one for mpp is to put clifton in the mids, will play every week and should be a good cash cow too.

jasonweare · January 08, 2012, 11:09:09 PM

The backs are annoying me a bit. As most of the top defenders from last year are from round 13 teams. As i prefered to only have a maximum of 2 prems from each bye week on each line. But I could change enright to broughton maybe, but I wouldn't be confident until we knew which way lyon is going to use him. At worst I could leave enright and probably become d7.

With mpp rooks in the mids, couch is there at the moment, but thats if he's named for round one of course. I don't think I'll be wanting to take on two mpp rooks from the start if I'm seeing better value in other rooks, especially with the depth of them in the midfield. But zorko and brown could go in there.

Clifton is named mid only on sc gold at the moment. If it was to change he would be there.

Colliwobblers · January 08, 2012, 11:45:59 PM

ignoring the rooks and i know Ringo really advises DPP in the mids and i can't fault that but for me if the rooks are picked great if not too bad i wouldnt have a premium dpp in mids they simply arent up to the mid premium level and i wouldnt sacrifice a gun cash cow (ala heppell,curnow last year) just to have a dpp roock in the mids, but if there is a good one available great have him.

With byes not taking DPP into consideration i agree 100% with you two keepers/guns per bye round per line (except ruck) is all you want. Otherwise you sideways trade during byes or eat a lot of donuts or risk upgrading rooks to the wrong rooks at the wrong time (as in hitting thier peek).

Is pav a SC gun because i am dubious on him and i think enright scetchy too but yeah a great side. I was tempted by the mid pricers and went quite a few but no one can fault the gun rook method.

IMO just watch conca come nab cup he will be playing as a midfielder and at his price and his ability he could be the early pcik of the season.

I'm not totally great at SC i like to think i have the DT players worked out now but i really dont have my head around who are the SC guns and why, hence my recent posts to discuss the differences.

But GREAT TEAM. tempted to copy.. :)

Ringo · January 09, 2012, 07:54:24 AM

Quote from: Colliwobblers on January 08, 2012, 11:45:59 PM
ignoring the rooks and i know Ringo really advises DPP in the mids and i can't fault that but for me if the rooks are picked great if not too bad i wouldnt have a premium dpp in mids they simply arent up to the mid premium level and i wouldnt sacrifice a gun cash cow (ala heppell,curnow last year) just to have a dpp roock in the mids, but if there is a good one available great have him.

With byes not taking DPP into consideration i agree 100% with you two keepers/guns per bye round per line (except ruck) is all you want. Otherwise you sideways trade during byes or eat a lot of donuts or risk upgrading rooks to the wrong rooks at the wrong time (as in hitting thier peek).

Is pav a SC gun because i am dubious on him and i think enright scetchy too but yeah a great side. I was tempted by the mid pricers and went quite a few but no one can fault the gun rook method.

IMO just watch conca come nab cup he will be playing as a midfielder and at his price and his ability he could be the early pcik of the season.

I'm not totally great at SC i like to think i have the DT players worked out now but i really dont have my head around who are the SC guns and why, hence my recent posts to discuss the differences.

But GREAT TEAM. tempted to copy.. :)

Just a small clarification and I agree with you do not get a mid DPP Prem for the sake of it. What I am saying is, if your rookies are up to it consider for Mids Rookie eg Zorko, Pfeiiffer, Brown, Couch, Horsely etc. to allow to transfer the likes eg Goddard, Lids, Fyfe, Pav etc to mids if required to cover for a prem rather than trade.

jasonweare · January 09, 2012, 08:50:26 AM

Hey Ringo. I won't be taking any mpp prems in the mids. Don't like them in the mids. If the mpp rooks are scoring well then I'll move them from the back and fwd Bench. But won't be making decisions until after nab cup and team selection for round 1

Colliwooblers. My misses reckon I shouldn't have put it up for that reason. But cool if you want lol.

Also I have $33,000 left in the bank.

Colliwobblers · January 09, 2012, 10:45:24 PM

Quote from: jasonweare on January 09, 2012, 08:50:26 AM
Hey Ringo. I won't be taking any mpp prems in the mids. Don't like them in the mids. If the mpp rooks are scoring well then I'll move them from the back and fwd Bench. But won't be making decisions until after nab cup and team selection for round 1

Colliwooblers. My misses reckon I shouldn't have put it up for that reason. But cool if you want lol.

Also I have $33,000 left in the bank.

lol no i won't be coppying, that was just a compliment :) not my style and we all like to think me can make the best choices come crunch time. I got a few smokies up my sleeves and no one knows which rooks until after nab cup.

jasonweare · January 16, 2012, 06:49:22 PM

Played around with the team a bit. Changed to the 1 prem 3 rook ruck, and 3-3 mid strategy's.

This is what I came up with.

Backs: Goddard, deledio, H.shaw, broughton, heppell, Burgoyne, Tomlinson, (Ellis, mohr)
Mids: ablett, Swan, sel wood, horsey, Miles, zorko, ( shiel, brown)
Rucks: berger, Giles, (Stephensen, Rowe)
Forwards: Franklin, pavlich, Martin, side bottom, brown, Saad, smedts, ( kerridge, couch)

Heppell: I think he can have a year like fyfe did last year. Keen to take the punt of this second year player.
Burgoyne: with Hawthorns backline back to strength, I think he can now get more of a run through the midfield. But will see nab cup of course.

jasonweare · January 17, 2012, 11:15:26 AM

Also have $81,300 in the bank.

Does the team look any stronger Guys?

Colliwobblers · January 18, 2012, 02:09:48 AM

ringo is right here tho if you can work DPP into your team it will help a LOT in the bye rounds watch the nab cup closely there are a lot of potentialy good rooks with the mpp status and it could give you a big advantage with the premiums you select that others dont due to the bye rounds and NOT having mpp players to assist.

On the latest team..

DEF: super power, this defence is way too strong somewhere else must be weeeeek....
MID: here is the weeeek spot, 3 premiums where i think there should be 4, i would be trading burgoyne to a rook and adding barlow to the mids with the help of that $80K in the bank.
RUCK: risky with 3 rooks but you have the right rooks and you wont be the only one doing this.
FWD: almost super power, I would trade brown to a rook and upgrade the ruck. But thats just me.

work mpp rooks into the team as ringo has suggested pending nab cup form, and think about my mid and ruck upgrade suggestions but either way it is a good team, heavy in the def and fwd and light in the mid and ruck but still a good solid side with good players (premium) picked in all lines.

Good job and good luck.

jasonweare · January 18, 2012, 11:27:34 AM

I'll more then likely be going back to my first time, just prems and rooks