Ponting, Lara, Tendulkar or Kallis

Started by Hawka, January 06, 2012, 10:49:29 PM

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c4v3m4n

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Also for those interested, here are the stats for Ponting v Lara v SRT v Kallis.




   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Jacques Kallis          Sachin Tendulkar          Brian Lara          Ricky Ponting         
Matches149186131160
Innings253307232273
Runs scored12036154091195312912
Average56.2456.0352.8852.70
Strike Rate45.52unknown60.5159.03
High Score224248*400*257
50s55654860
100s40513440
Wickets2714505
Runs conceded          8875244528273
Average32.7454.33-54.6
Strike Rate69.092.7-115.0
BBI6/543/10-1/0
BBM9/923/14-1/0
5w5000
Catches174112164188

Hawka

Quote from: c4v3m4n on January 07, 2012, 01:39:35 AM
Also for those interested, here are the stats for Ponting v Lara v SRT v Kallis.




   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   
Jacques Kallis          Sachin Tendulkar          Brian Lara          Ricky Ponting         
Matches149186131160
Innings253307232273
Runs scored12036154091195312912
Average56.2456.0352.8852.70
Strike Rate45.52unknown60.5159.03
High Score201*248*400*257
50s55654860
100s40513440
Wickets2714505
Runs conceded          8875244528273
Average32.7454.33-54.6
Strike Rate69.092.7-115.0
BBI6/543/10-1/0
BBM9/923/14-1/0
5w5000
Catches174112164188

nice work C4
Tendulkar is somewhat of a flat track bully, he scores alot less in the second innings and averages more when india win.I cant speak for Kallis because im unaware of these stats on those things for him but Lara and Ponting are the complete oppiosite with Tendulkar on those stats.And up until early 2009 Ponting averged more then Sachin, and Ponting and Kallis have played alot less agianst the likes of zimbabwe and Bangladesh

and btw mine is
Lara> Ponting> Kallis> Tendulkar

Maca24

Lara was the king.

Lara > Ponting > Sachin > Kallis.

Kallis has a yuck strike rate and is a White Goodman  :P

Ponting better than Sachin IMO. As people have said Tendulkar is a bit of a flat track bully.

Cookie Monster

Quote from: CrowsFan on January 06, 2012, 10:59:16 PM
Ponting the best when he was in his peak. Batted at 3 which is possibly the toughest position to bat in whereas Lara and Dulks batted at 4 which is easier. Dulks also scores most of his runs on the slow subcontinent
Ponting easily, at his peak.


Lara and Dulks play teams like Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.


That is why Ponting is so much better, playing teams like, England, South Africa, India and the best teams in the world.

Ponting>Lara>Dulks>Kallis

Although reading the plaper today, Kallis has a better average than both Dulks and Ponting.

pyronerd

Lara > Dulks > Ponting > Kallis for me in terms of batting, obviously Kallis is the best bowler of the lot

Kallis has a shower Strike Rate, hence why I rate him below the others

Hawka

Strike rate should not mean much in tests imo

pyronerd

Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Strike rate should not mean much in tests imo
what it does mean though, is that he will bat for the same time as the other guys, and put a heap less scoreboard pressure on, meaning the the opposing team will have a fair bit smaller total to chase, even in test cricket, faster runs are better runs (provided you stay in, which all of these do/did as well as anybody anyway)

Maca24

Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Strike rate should not mean much in tests imo
what it does mean though, is that he will bat for the same time as the other guys, and put a heap less scoreboard pressure on, meaning the the opposing team will have a fair bit smaller total to chase, even in test cricket, faster runs are better runs (provided you stay in, which all of these do/did as well as anybody anyway)
EXACTLY. thanks pyro this was the point I was trying to male :P

Thats why IMO he costs them a lot of test wins and bats for his average  :-X

Windigo

There all legends in their own ways. Even Kallis, what an incredible arrogant prick batsmen.

pyronerd

Quote from: Maca24 on January 07, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Strike rate should not mean much in tests imo
what it does mean though, is that he will bat for the same time as the other guys, and put a heap less scoreboard pressure on, meaning the the opposing team will have a fair bit smaller total to chase, even in test cricket, faster runs are better runs (provided you stay in, which all of these do/did as well as anybody anyway)
EXACTLY. thanks pyro this was the point I was trying to male :P

Thats why IMO he costs them a lot of test wins and bats for his average  :-X
lolwut :P

there is no excuse for any text batsmen to have a career strike rate of less than 50 IMO

BratPack


Hawka

Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 07:02:24 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on January 07, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Strike rate should not mean much in tests imo
what it does mean though, is that he will bat for the same time as the other guys, and put a heap less scoreboard pressure on, meaning the the opposing team will have a fair bit smaller total to chase, even in test cricket, faster runs are better runs (provided you stay in, which all of these do/did as well as anybody anyway)
EXACTLY. thanks pyro this was the point I was trying to male :P

Thats why IMO he costs them a lot of test wins and bats for his average  :-X
lolwut :P

there is no excuse for any text batsmen to have a career strike rate of less than 50 IMO
Steve Waugh did

pyronerd

Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 07:02:24 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on January 07, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Strike rate should not mean much in tests imo
what it does mean though, is that he will bat for the same time as the other guys, and put a heap less scoreboard pressure on, meaning the the opposing team will have a fair bit smaller total to chase, even in test cricket, faster runs are better runs (provided you stay in, which all of these do/did as well as anybody anyway)
EXACTLY. thanks pyro this was the point I was trying to male :P

Thats why IMO he costs them a lot of test wins and bats for his average  :-X
lolwut :P

there is no excuse for any text batsmen to have a career strike rate of less than 50 IMO
Steve Waugh did
so :P that's not an excuse :P

Hawka

Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 07:51:29 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 07:02:24 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on January 07, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Strike rate should not mean much in tests imo
what it does mean though, is that he will bat for the same time as the other guys, and put a heap less scoreboard pressure on, meaning the the opposing team will have a fair bit smaller total to chase, even in test cricket, faster runs are better runs (provided you stay in, which all of these do/did as well as anybody anyway)
EXACTLY. thanks pyro this was the point I was trying to male :P

Thats why IMO he costs them a lot of test wins and bats for his average  :-X
lolwut :P

there is no excuse for any text batsmen to have a career strike rate of less than 50 IMO
Steve Waugh did
so :P that's not an excuse :P
Waugh is a legend u cant say he was batting for his average or lost games

pyronerd

Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 07:54:14 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 07:51:29 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 07:37:50 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 07:02:24 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on January 07, 2012, 06:56:20 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on January 07, 2012, 06:40:27 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on January 07, 2012, 06:28:21 PM
Strike rate should not mean much in tests imo
what it does mean though, is that he will bat for the same time as the other guys, and put a heap less scoreboard pressure on, meaning the the opposing team will have a fair bit smaller total to chase, even in test cricket, faster runs are better runs (provided you stay in, which all of these do/did as well as anybody anyway)
EXACTLY. thanks pyro this was the point I was trying to male :P

Thats why IMO he costs them a lot of test wins and bats for his average  :-X
lolwut :P

there is no excuse for any text batsmen to have a career strike rate of less than 50 IMO
Steve Waugh did
so :P that's not an excuse :P
Waugh is a legend u cant say he was batting for his average or lost games
that doesn't mean Kallis doesn't :P