Hire a DT Detective - Player Research By Request Ongoing

[Colliwobblers]

First post on this forum, so go easy !

First and foremost, i'm relatively new to the AFL game.  I played in 09/10 (badly, just didn't get it) again last year, where I did a bit better, but tried something a bit different and it basically took me a load of trades to put right.

This year i'm hoping to be a little more competitive and have been doing a bit of research and of course I managed to find this thread.  I must say Colli, this is one of the finest threads i've ever seen on an internet message forum.  Absolute top work and invaluable to an inexperienced player like myself.
I'd like your opinions on the following please:
Michael Doughty
Paul Duffield
and just to be cheeky, Shaun Burgoyne and David Hale too !  It's this 'mid-range' that's causing me the most problems.

First of all good on you and thanks for the nice comments, tons of top class helpful people on this site. you want to know anything or get opinions on your team and the answers and advice will flow (and 90% possitive and constructive)........ OK

Michael Doughty    
#11   Adelaide Crows
Age: 32yr 6mth    Games: 207     Born: August 5, 1979   
Height: 177cm     Weight: 81kg     Position: Defender
Last Drafted: Round 1, Pick #4 1999 Rookie Draft
Last Drafted By: Adelaide Crows
Supercoach Price: $436,500   
Dreamteam Price: $360,300



Season 2011 Totals/Averages
   
            GM    K    HB    D    M    G    B    T    HO    GA    GC    I50    FF    FA    DT *          SC *
Total    19    172    180    352    87    1    0    70    5    1    2    28    22    22    1,384    1,530
Average    19    9.0    9.5    18.5    4.6    0    0    3.7    0.3    0    0.1    1.5    1.2    1.2    72.8          80.5

Past Dream Team Average Scores
   
Year    Games    Average
2005    21    51.1
2006    21    83.9
2007    19    71.3
2008    22    84.7
2009    22    87.0
2010    22    74.7
2011    19    72.8

In 2011 he had a high of 105 his only ton in DT had a handfull in SC and was much higher scoring and more consistant in SC, as a DT player he had far too many scores between 50 and 70 (most of his scores were).

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=122979

Apart from the team improving I cant see him improving a lot personnaly but he does have a ridiculously easy draw for 2012.

Premium Player Rating (DEF) 6.5/10 - cost you almost $400k but wont earn you the top scores / avg you neeed from your DT defender premiums. For SC on the other hand this is one of those guys that is good for one not for the other, 8.5/10 SC. uses the ball well and easy draw. Either way he is gettin on and a the only or most experienced defender he will get the shut down roles which are not fantasy friendly so there WILL be those low scores on and off.

[Colliwobblers]

First post on this forum, so go easy !
I'd like your opinions on the following please:
Michael Doughty
Paul Duffield
and just to be cheeky, Shaun Burgoyne and David Hale too !  It's this 'mid-range' that's causing me the most problems.

   Paul Duffield    
#41   Fremantle Dockers
Age: 27yr    Games: 90     Born: February 5, 1985   
Height: 187cm     Weight: 88kg     Position: Defender
Last Drafted: Round 1, Pick #7 2005 Rookie Draft
Last Drafted By: Fremantle Dockers
Supercoach Price: $410,200   
Dreamteam Price: $347,200   



DISCUSSION:   http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,46973.0.html

Season 2011 Totals/Averages
   
            GM    K    HB    D    M    G    B    T    HO    GA    GC    I50    FF    FA    DT *          SC *
Total    21    217    137    354    73    2    8    86    3    9    11    46    14    17    1,474    1,589
Average    21    10.3    6.5    16.9    3.5    0.1    0.4    4.1    0.1    0.4    0.5    2.2    0.7    0.8    70.2      75.7

Past Dream Team Average Scores
   
Year    Games    Average
2006    7    57.3
2007    6    57.7
2008    11    63.9
2009    21    89.4
2010    22    87.6
2011    21    70.2

2011 Wrap - a good year to look at him as he is discounted due to his less than average duffield year last season. Had a couple of tons including his high of 120 a few 90+ and the rest was all over the place average... what happened?

Premium Player Rating (DEF) 6/10 - I don't see him getting back to the top of his game and averaging high 80's again, he is capable of much but too often achieves little instead. Don't like the role he plays, don't like the inconsistancy, not sure how he will be used this season tho and everything may change drastically for better or for worse, would not lock him in until you know a lot more than i do, no news on him for you no advice either, sit on the fence watch nabcup and peek over the freo fence to try get an idea of his 2012 role and value. Is capable and is cheap.

[Lions01]

Thanks for Brodie Moles, One more player if you don't mind Colli is Issac Smith.

He's one of those Kids that screams DT, I was lucky enough to jump on him last year after his first price rise and was reward quiet nicely on a few occasion. Has the rare ability to score 60+ in a quarter (if he was a forward this year like last i would be on, one that could to a Redden/Rockliff)

[washemj21]

colli it would be great if you could do Bachar Houli for me. Thanks

[Colliwobblers]

Zorko?
Pfeiffer?
Treloar?

   Dayne Zorko    
#15   Brisbane Lions
Age: 23yr    Games: 0     Born: February 9, 1989   
Height: 175cm     Weight: 76kg     Position: Midfield, Forward
Supercoach Price: $113,200   Supercoach Profile
Dreamteam Price: $104,200   Dream Team Profile



DISCUSSION:   http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,45369.0.html

VIDEO:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFVuUfCtXnI     /     http://www.afl.com.au/video/tabid/76/contentid/409282/default.aspx

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/broadbeach-cats-player-dayne-zorko-has-been-traded-to-brisbane-lions/story-e6frep5o-1226169108143

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=125355

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/126996/default.aspx

http://www.afl.com.au/news/newsarticle/tabid/208/newsid/128636/default.aspx

http://www.bigpondsport.com/dream-team-builder-dayne-zorko/tabid/91/newsid/82237/default.aspx

Rookie Player Rating (FWD/MID) 9.5/10 - I could go on forever, mature aged, afl ready, club says ready to go round 1, his skills say a cross between sucklings kicking and a typical mid/fwd body and skillset. LOCK.

[Colliwobblers]

Zorko?
Pfeiffer?
Treloar?

Darren Pfeiffer    
#31   Port Adelaide Power
Age: 24yr 4mth    Games: 7     Born: September 28, 1987   
Height: 183cm     Weight: 81kg     Position: Midfield, Forward
Last Drafted: Round 1, Pick #3 2011 Rookie Draft
Last Drafted By: Port Adelaide Power
Supercoach Price: $126,700   
Dreamteam Price: $117,800   



DISCUSSION:   http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,45360.0.html

VIDEO:   http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/ptv/tabid/11037/contentid/409094/default.aspx

Past Dream Team Average Scores
   
Year    Games    Average
2008    7    53.0

http://www.adelaidenow.com.au/sport/afl/strong-bodies-on-the-radar-for-power/story-e6freco3-1226214579171

http://www.portadelaidefc.com.au/tabid/6038/default.aspx?newsid=127919

http://www.footytragic.com/blog/2012-dans-rookie-reveal/dans-rookie-reveal-darren-pfeiffer/

Rookie Player Rating (FWD/MID) 8.5/10 - Another AFL ready rookie, this one is rookie listed and that would have rated him between 5 and 7 EXCEPT Port have a veteran in cassisi and they now also have a LTI listed player added to the list earlier this week, Port went looking for strong bodies players and this is who they found, they drafted him with the intent to play him straight away and now there is the LTI as well as the vet i expect him upgraded and playing in round 1 and I cant wait to see him go, looks like a ready made port midfielder and a bulldozer to boot. Once promoted another LOCK. Tho will not hit the elite level ever i think, but we are not picking him now for that.

[Colliwobblers]

Zorko?
Pfeiffer?
Treloar?

   Adam Treloar    
#0   GWS Giants
Age: 18yr 11mth    Games: 0     Born: March 9, 1993   
Height: 181cm     Weight: 86kg     Position: Midfield, Forward
Supercoach Price: $113,200 
Dreamteam Price: $104,200   



DISCUSSION:   http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44314.0.html

Adam Treloar shares his birth date with team mate Dylan Shiel. Like Shiel, Treloar is an exciting young prospect for the club and is a silky‐skilled right‐footed creative and running player who can fulfil a variety of positions.

Standing at 183cm, he was the fifth 17 year old signed by GWS under the Club's list concessions.

At the 2009 NAB Under‐16 Championships he averaged an elite 21 disposals, eight handball‐receives and 11 contested possessions per match and then debuted to play six matches with Dandenong at TAC Cup level including the Grand Final.

In 2010 he played a further eight matches for the Stingrays where his averages of 22 disposals and 10 contested possessions were both elite while at the 2010 NAB Under‐18 Championships he played four of five matches to average 18 disposals and eight contested possessions.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/greater-western-sydney-pair-dylan-shiel-and-adam-treloar-pick-of-bunch/story-e6frf9if-1225948833912

Rookie Player Rating (FWD/MID) 8/10 - In sheeds best 21 so he will be playing this season from the start, not afl ready but the GWS rooks have to play and he is a skilled young player. Will start in my forward line if hampton doesnt steel his spot. Safe solid pick.

[Colliwobblers]

Thanks for Brodie Moles, One more player if you don't mind Colli is Issac Smith.

He's one of those Kids that screams DT, I was lucky enough to jump on him last year after his first price rise and was reward quiet nicely on a few occasion. Has the rare ability to score 60+ in a quarter (if he was a forward this year like last i would be on, one that could to a Redden/Rockliff)

Isaac Smith    
#16   Hawthorn Hawks
Age: 23yr 1mth    Games: 16     Born: December 30, 1988   
Height: 188cm     Weight: 77kg     Position: Midfield
Last Drafted: Round 1, Pick #19 2010 National Draft
Last Drafted By: Hawthorn Hawks
Supercoach Price: $432,400   
Dreamteam Price: $408,600   



Season 2011 Totals/Averages
   
             GM    K    HB    D    M    G    B    T    HO    GA    GC    I50    FF    FA    DT *         SC *
Total    16    178    123    301    100    20    9    40    0    9    29    59    10    13    1,074    1,037
Average    16    11.1    7.7    18.8    6.2    1.2    0.6    2.5    0    0.6    1.8    3.7    0.6    0.8    82.6        79.8

DISCUSSION:  http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,44152.0.html

http://www.couriermail.com.au/sport/afl/all-systems-flow-for-isaac-smith/story-e6frepf6-1226266113115

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/hawks-isaac-smith-paul-puopolo-set-to-shine/story-e6frf9jf-1226258413526

Mid Priced Player Rating (MID) 7/10 - such a shame he is listed as a midfielder, but after all that is what he is and will be, if not this season then next season, according to the club that is. He is listed as having had a great pre season, was one of the BOG in the practice ic game. He is touted for midfield time and said to be likely to play a larger role and improve significantly, as a  FWD/MID which he should be he would be as much a lock as sidebottom, zaka,martin and the like, as a pure mid he loses a couple of points /10 and is possibly unpickable for the fact he will still play mostly in the fwd line and cannot achieve midfield keeper status, not this season anyway. may prove me wrong, is a gun, but skill is not enough for an elite midfielder experience and footy smarts have to be developed.

[Doyle]

I was wondering about Luke Hodge... Not given any thought really, is a great leader and had a couple of good DT seasons, how do you reckon he's going to go? Maybe a predicted average?

[Colliwobblers]

colli it would be great if you could do Bachar Houli for me. Thanks

Bachar Houli    
#14   Richmond Tigers
Age: 23yr 8mth    Games: 48     Born: May 12, 1988   
Height: 180cm     Weight: 84kg     Position: Defender
Last Drafted: Round 1, Pick #3 2010 Pre-Season Draft
Last Drafted By: Richmond Tigers
Supercoach Price: $483,700   
Dreamteam Price: $415,300   



Have a look at this unit (late January 2012) winning time trials and beefing up

Season 2011 Totals/Averages
   
              GM    K    HB    D    M    G    B    T    HO    GA    GC    I50    FF    FA    DT *     SC *
     Total    22    273    205    478    127    5    6    55    0    5    10    60    20    13    1,847    1,963
Average    22    12.4    9.3    21.7    5.8    0.2    0.3    2.5    0    0.2    0.4    2.7    0.9    0.6    84.0     89.2

Past Dream Team Average Scores
   
Year    Games    Average
2007    4    50.2
2008    10    73.4
2009    7    75.3
2010    5    76.8
2011    22    84.0

2011 Wrap: 6 tons last season with a high of 127. A few shockers but overall a very consistant year. Just a slight lift on other season Houli has always been about this good, a bit more of a lift and he really starts to become DT relevant.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/richmonds-bachar-houli-makes-flying-start-to-2012/story-e6frf9jf-1226238183018

http://www.afl.com.au/tabid/208/default.aspx?newsid=128290

Premium Player Rating (DEF) 8/10 - limited choices for 90+ average defenders down back and Hoili will come VERY VERY close to joining that group this season. There are nothing but upsides to him based on his preseason form his strength and fitness adn his great 2011 season. There are only a couple of negatives and doubts around his DT/SC scoring for 2012 and ability to BE CHOSEN. He shares a round 13 bye with Scotland, Goddard, Delidio, Birchall, Suckling, Carrazo, Fisher. That is the first "hard part" now that just leaves the question of how the guaranteed appearances of Morris and Ellis will effect his scoring. We know Delidio is headed for the midfield , we also need to make sure Houli takes his running half back role rather than a lockdown role. Heading for elite DT status, pity about the bye and a couple of questions to be asked and answered before selection.

[Colliwobblers]

I was wondering about Luke Hodge... Not given any thought really, is a great leader and had a couple of good DT seasons, how do you reckon he's going to go? Maybe a predicted average?

I am not experienced enough or qualified enough to give you predicted averages but Hodgey should go for between 95 and 110

The assistant coach and I am sure a LOT of "experts" out there would/are leaning towards the 95 end of that scale.

Luke Hodge    
#15   Hawthorn Hawks
Age: 27yr 7mth    Games: 195     Born: June 15, 1984   
Height: 185cm     Weight: 90kg     Position: Midfield
Last Drafted: Priority Pick #1 2001 National Draft
Last Drafted By: Hawthorn Hawks
Supercoach Price: $577,200 
Dreamteam Price: $467,300 



DISCUSSION:  http://www.fanfooty.com.au/forum/index.php/topic,45547.0.html

Season 2011 Totals/Averages
   
            GM    K    HB    D    M    G    B    T    HO    GA    GC    I50    FF    FA    DT *        SC *
     Total    22    325    209    534    106    19    18    76    39    7    26    78    32    31    1,798    2,023
Average    22    14.8    9.5    24.3    4.8    0.9    0.8    3.4    1.8    0.3    1.2    3.6    1.4    1.4    94.6     106.5

Past Dream Team Average Scores
   
Year    Games    Average
2007    22    95.0
2008    17    96.4
2009    19    83.5
2010    21    103.1
2011    19    94.6

2011 Wrap: 11 tons with a high of 154, 5 of those tone over 120. a few shockers were the problem. This is why I have him capable of up to 110, unless he falls over he is an elite midfielder, end of story.

Premium Player Rating (MID) 8/10 - still an elite player but I think past his prime in DT terms, still capable of pumping out huge scores but his inconsistancy last year was unsettling. A risky pick, better option available in particular Mitchell if you want to talk hawks.

[elephants]

Here we go again CW!!

Scott Pendlebury and Joel Selwood, not sure who to make my 3rd mid of these guys. Taking price into account. Thanks

[Ziplock]

Selwood definitely taking price into account. Pendles has peaked (for the next year or two), while selwood is like 6 points underpriced. Pendles has those GWS speculations etc. while Selwood was just captained.

Soz for hijacking the thread again cwob :P

[elephants]

Thanks Zip.

Pendles may be proving a point to Bucks (that he is worth holding onto) or equally could be looking to destroy this year so he is raking in bigger dollars for GWS.

Selwood is insanley under-priced BUT will taking the captaincy mean he has to put the team first and therefore end up sacrificing some points??

+'s and -'s for both. Something that helps Selwood is that he isn't playing for the same team as Swan therefore giving me a better variety of Skipper options. I.e when C'Wood play Hawks )and 120+'s will be tough to come by the Cats might play GWS at Skilled therefore making Selly a better pick...

[Shrews]

Thanks for Doughty and Duffield, Colli.  I suspected that they wouldn't be rated that highly as nobody seems to be talking about them!  So, it's good to get a conclusive opinion.  I'm not picking them ! 

I'd like a rating too on Hayle and Burgoyne please, just to put me out of my indecisive misery !