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Started by Master Q, December 12, 2011, 06:54:55 PM

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FisherSaints

Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:16:48 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
So have 2 wicketkeepers (or people that can keep) like NZ with McCullum and Young
???
That is basically what some people are saying

Maca24

Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:18:02 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:16:48 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
So have 2 wicketkeepers (or people that can keep) like NZ with McCullum and Young
???
That is basically what some people are saying
Where did that comment come from though? lol pretty random.
NZ keeping situation is different to ours fisher. No way we would play 2 keepers.

Nails

Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:18:02 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:16:48 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
So have 2 wicketkeepers (or people that can keep) like NZ with McCullum and Young
???
That is basically what some people are saying
Where did that comment come from though? lol pretty random.
NZ keeping situation is different to ours fisher. No way we would play 2 keepers.

I don't see why not...

Having Warner opening the Batting and Hadding coming in at 5/6 as a specialist bat... Similar to having Gilchrist/Hayden

Just instead of the aggressor being a keeper, it's Haddin and instead of the keeper smashing it, he'll be the slow test batter (Paine)

Sounds good to me. It'll give time for Haddin to focus simply on batting and revitalise himself IMO.

FisherSaints

Quote from: Nails on December 13, 2011, 02:39:37 PM
Quote from: Ringo on December 13, 2011, 02:38:32 PM
Reports are Watson may be used solely as a batsman for the Test. Harris bowled 30 overs in the nets yesterday so he may be fit for the test. Christian may come into the team but at whose expense would not drop Khawaja at this point so that leaves Ponting or Hussey.
If Paine is fit would also consider replacing Haddin.

Ponting - drop him

Move Haddin up as a specialist bat.
Bring in Paine (if fit)


Maca24

I don't know about you guys but I hate the sound of that.
IMO that is just starving someone who can bat better an opportunity.
No need for both Haddin and Paine. One or the other.

Think of it like this.
Warner, Watson, Marsh, Ponting, Clarke, Haddin and Paine are our batters.
Then Khawaja misses out because of that? not fair, as he can bat much better than Haddin.

Master Q

Quote from: Nails on December 13, 2011, 05:45:03 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:18:02 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:16:48 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
So have 2 wicketkeepers (or people that can keep) like NZ with McCullum and Young
???
That is basically what some people are saying
Where did that comment come from though? lol pretty random.
NZ keeping situation is different to ours fisher. No way we would play 2 keepers.

I don't see why not...

Having Warner opening the Batting and Hadding coming in at 5/6 as a specialist bat... Similar to having Gilchrist/Hayden

Just instead of the aggressor being a keeper, it's Haddin and instead of the keeper smashing it, he'll be the slow test batter (Paine)

Sounds good to me. It'll give time for Haddin to focus simply on batting and revitalise himself IMO.
Problem is Haddin is in the team for his Keeping - He's not the greatest batsmen IMO. South Africa have it really good as AB De Villiers is in the team for his batting but is actually in the top 3 keepers for SA.

Keep Haddin.
Keep Clarke.
Keep Ponting.
Drop Hussey.

EDIT: Agree with Maca - Khwaja > Haddin

Cicjose

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Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:48:09 PM
I don't know about you guys but I hate the sound of that.
IMO that is just starving someone who can bat better an opportunity.

except that apparently we dont have anymore batsmen according to you

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5gZ1y3XSoNSjWrCD1lTxQ_33klLVg?docId=CNG.9e2e5143c9e0e20fe79d9fd7518c9fe6.341

Michael Clarke's men handed the Black Caps their first victory on Australian soil in 26 years after a dramatic batting collapse in the second innings in Hobart, described as arguably their most embarrassing defeat in Test history.

"The top order again failed against the swinging delivery, a fact that will be noted by India as it prepares for the four-Test post-Christmas series," wrote Peter Lalor in The Australian.

Lalor added that Australia's recent score of just 47 in Cape Town and the historic loss to New Zealand proved "this inconsistent team had new depths to plumb".

"Australia will head into the marquee series of the Test summer with a misfiring batting line-up vulnerable to costly and spectacular collapses if yesterday's humiliating defeat to New Zealand has not sharpened John Inverarity's axe," concluded the Herald.

Nails

Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:48:09 PM
I don't know about you guys but I hate the sound of that.
IMO that is just starving someone who can bat better an opportunity.
No need for both Haddin and Paine. One or the other.

Think of it like this.
Warner, Watson, Marsh, Ponting, Clarke, Haddin and Paine are our batters.
Then Khawaja misses out because of that? not fair, as he can bat much better than Haddin.

You totally ignored the "drop Ponting" part :o

Quote from: Master Q on December 13, 2011, 05:49:16 PM
Quote from: Nails on December 13, 2011, 05:45:03 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:23:27 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:18:02 PM
Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 05:16:48 PM
Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
So have 2 wicketkeepers (or people that can keep) like NZ with McCullum and Young
???
That is basically what some people are saying
Where did that comment come from though? lol pretty random.
NZ keeping situation is different to ours fisher. No way we would play 2 keepers.

I don't see why not...

Having Warner opening the Batting and Hadding coming in at 5/6 as a specialist bat... Similar to having Gilchrist/Hayden

Just instead of the aggressor being a keeper, it's Haddin and instead of the keeper smashing it, he'll be the slow test batter (Paine)

Sounds good to me. It'll give time for Haddin to focus simply on batting and revitalise himself IMO.
Problem is Haddin is in the team for his Keeping - He's not the greatest batsmen IMO. South Africa have it really good as AB De Villiers is in the team for his batting but is actually in the top 3 keepers for SA.

Keep Haddin.
Keep Clarke.
Keep Ponting.
Drop Hussey.

EDIT: Agree with Maca - Khwaja > Haddin

Drop Hussey over Ponting? :-/

Hussey was man of the series against Sri Lanka and was one of if not our best batters against England.

Ponting's centuries last 18 months (to my knowledge): 0

It's not really tough out of those two.... Can score 100s vs. Forgot how to score 100s.

Hussey is our man.

Maca24

Cic I never said we didn't have any batsman? That was someone else  :)

We have tonnes actually. Cowan, Christian, Khawaja, Hughes, Warner, Watson, Ponting, Hussey, Clarke, Marsh.

Master Q

Except Ponting hits more runs and I have more trust in him.

Hussey has been shocking against NZ, so if you have to drop someone it should be him.


Doyle

because the Aus vs NZ thread has been closed I had to put this here

found this wicked quote on Cricinfo  ;D

'If P Hughes is shaving tomorrow and gets a nick, M Guptill will appear from the medicine cabinet with a band-aid.'

Maca24

Not just ponting though Nails.
Anyone of the people I mentioned over Haddin as a specialist bat.

You cant honestly tell me that Haddin is a better bat than Ponting. LOL

Nails

Quote from: Master Q on December 13, 2011, 06:15:06 PM
Except Ponting hits more runs and I have more trust in him.

Hussey has been shocking against NZ, so if you have to drop someone it should be him.

Over the last 2 years:

R. Ponting

20 Matches, 38 innings, 2NO, 1,200 runs, HS 209, Ave 33.33, 1 century and 9 half centuries.

Hussey also over the last 2 years:

22 matches, 40 innings, 3NO, 1,743 runs, HS 195, Ave 47.10 5 centuries and 9 half centuries.

Between the two of them over the last 2 years...

Not even close, Hussey by an ABSOLUTE COUNTRY MILE.

Hawka

Quote from: Doyle on December 13, 2011, 06:28:27 PM
because the Aus vs NZ thread has been closed I had to put this here

found this wicked quote on Cricinfo  ;D

'If P Hughes is shaving tomorrow and gets a nick, M Guptill will appear from the medicine cabinet with a band-aid.'
i quoted that yesterday :P

Nails

Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 06:30:45 PM
Not just ponting though Nails.
Anyone of the people I mentioned over Haddin as a specialist bat.

You cant honestly tell me that Haddin is a better bat than Ponting. LOL

You're right, but Ponting just has to sit in the field... if Haddin didn't have the stress of keeping for 2 innings per match he'd be better rested and have a better chance of scoring runs.

Over the last 2 years Haddin has only averaged 3.06 runs less per innings than Ponting. If you were to turn him into a specialist batter... I'd kind of expect Haddin to average more... Ponting at 37 is past it, Haddin at 34 has a couple years left.