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Started by Master Q, December 12, 2011, 06:54:55 PM

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bomberboy0618

Quote from: Cicjose on December 13, 2011, 02:37:23 PM
Quote from: hawka26 on December 13, 2011, 02:35:42 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 13, 2011, 02:18:16 PM
http://www.foxsports.com.au/cricket/australia/allan-border-says-either-ricky-ponting-or-michael-hussey-will-be-dropped-for-the-boxing-day-test-against-india/story-fn2mcu3x-1226220638177

im now expecting you guys to think Allan Border is out of his mind suggesting this
I sorta agree..But not all of them !!!

by agreeing with AB that makes any and all arguments against my players invalid
No it doesnt... It means that he has presented a good idea, while you were trying to overhaul the team completely with one fell swoop.

Cicjose

which the argus report suggested and ricky ponting suggested should have been done 10 years ago

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/28/ricky-ponting-overhaul-australia-cricket

"It's terrific," Ponting said on Monday. "It's the way the game should have gone a long, long time ago. We've got quality people in and around the team and, even already now, we're starting to see just a slightly different feel and a few different results ... Australian cricket is definitely on the right track."

Ponting said the team's former coach John Buchanan, who is now working with New Zealand Cricket, wanted to implement changes when he took over the team in 1999 but could not force major reforms when the team was at its height.

pyronerd

Quote from: Cicjose on December 13, 2011, 03:28:28 PM
which the argus report suggested and ricky ponting suggested should have been done 10 years ago

http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/2011/nov/28/ricky-ponting-overhaul-australia-cricket

"It's terrific," Ponting said on Monday. "It's the way the game should have gone a long, long time ago. We've got quality people in and around the team and, even already now, we're starting to see just a slightly different feel and a few different results ... Australian cricket is definitely on the right track."

Ponting said the team's former coach John Buchanan, who is now working with New Zealand Cricket, wanted to implement changes when he took over the team in 1999 but could not force major reforms when the team was at its height.
That doesn't mean boot all the experienced players from the team at once.....

Cicjose

it means booting all the non performers out ASAP

pyronerd

Quote from: Cicjose on December 13, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
it means booting all the non performers out ASAP
you can't expect a young inexperienced team to perform any better than a highly experienced team, and as you should know from the past, any of the under-performing older players could hit form at any time

Maca24

Quote from: Cicjose on December 13, 2011, 03:33:09 PM
it means booting all the non performers out ASAP
Just because some guys are performing at first class level doesn't mean they will hit a 100 on debut.

Cicjose

The only batsman in the team who shows aptititude for Test Cricket is Khawaja as he at least shows some value for his wicket.

At present he ain't cashing in and getting big scores but the day will arrive and he will.

Ponting Clarke Haddin don't show this trait emphasised by their dismissals to wide balls on a moving track.

Someone who values their wicket doesn't swing at wide balls that aren't very full early in their innings on a pitch that is lively with swing, bounce and pace

Maca24

Ponting and Clarke have valued their wickets for 10 years, so silly comment.
Can't make a big call like that based on one innings.

Khawaja looks out of touch, and if you watched the game he nearly edged Martin about 30 times over the match.
I love the kid, but reckon he won't fit in if Marsh is fit.
If Marsh isn't fit then I would certainly leave him in.
Whether he gets dropped or not he still has a bright future as a Test Cricketer.

pyronerd

Quote from: Cicjose on December 13, 2011, 03:41:25 PM
The only batsman in the team who shows aptititude for Test Cricket is Khawaja as he at least shows some value for his wicket.

At present he ain't cashing in and getting big scores but the day will arrive and he will.

Ponting Clarke Haddin don't show this trait emphasised by their dismissals to wide balls on a moving track.

Someone who values their wicket doesn't swing at wide balls that aren't very full early in their innings on a pitch that is lively with swing, bounce and pace
dunno WTF the pitch has to do with the swing but anyway, IMO at that stage of the game it was more Bracewell's good bowling than the pitch that was causing the deviation and swing, the other kiwi's weren't really doing it

Hawka

OMG!!
y are u bagging Clarke he has our captain and he has done a great job and he is our most inform batsmen
seriously this is like the 5th time ive told u stop talking cricket!!

pyronerd

Quote from: Maca24 on December 13, 2011, 03:45:43 PM
Ponting and Clarke have valued their wickets for 10 years, so silly comment.
Can't make a big call like that based on one innings.

Khawaja looks out of touch, and if you watched the game he nearly edged Martin about 30 times over the match.
I love the kid, but reckon he won't fit in if Marsh is fit.
If Marsh isn't fit then I would certainly leave him in.
Whether he gets dropped or not he still has a bright future as a Test Cricketer.
I agree, at the moment he doesn't look like he has the mental ability to cope with batting in test cricket, but that will come to him as he gains confidence

bomberboy0618

Quote from: pyronerd on December 13, 2011, 03:46:29 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 13, 2011, 03:41:25 PM
The only batsman in the team who shows aptititude for Test Cricket is Khawaja as he at least shows some value for his wicket.

At present he ain't cashing in and getting big scores but the day will arrive and he will.

Ponting Clarke Haddin don't show this trait emphasised by their dismissals to wide balls on a moving track.

Someone who values their wicket doesn't swing at wide balls that aren't very full early in their innings on a pitch that is lively with swing, bounce and pace
dunno WTF the pitch has to do with the swing but anyway, IMO at that stage of the game it was more Bracewell's good bowling than the pitch that was causing the deviation and swing, the other kiwi's weren't really doing it
You cant score a hundred in a match where noone else scored 60, and carry your bat throug the innings and have no aptitude for test cricket.

FisherSaints

So have 2 wicketkeepers (or people that can keep) like NZ with McCullum and Young

Cicjose

Quote from: bomberboy0618 on December 13, 2011, 04:19:11 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on December 13, 2011, 03:46:29 PM
Quote from: Cicjose on December 13, 2011, 03:41:25 PM
The only batsman in the team who shows aptititude for Test Cricket is Khawaja as he at least shows some value for his wicket.

At present he ain't cashing in and getting big scores but the day will arrive and he will.

Ponting Clarke Haddin don't show this trait emphasised by their dismissals to wide balls on a moving track.

Someone who values their wicket doesn't swing at wide balls that aren't very full early in their innings on a pitch that is lively with swing, bounce and pace
dunno WTF the pitch has to do with the swing but anyway, IMO at that stage of the game it was more Bracewell's good bowling than the pitch that was causing the deviation and swing, the other kiwi's weren't really doing it
You cant score a hundred in a match where noone else scored 60, and carry your bat throug the innings and have no aptitude for test cricket.

yet no one here believes that Warner can play Test cricket

Maca24

Quote from: FisherSaints on December 13, 2011, 05:06:11 PM
So have 2 wicketkeepers (or people that can keep) like NZ with McCullum and Young
???