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Started by Master Q, December 12, 2011, 06:54:55 PM

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bomberboy0618

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Quote from: Nails on December 14, 2011, 05:42:28 PM
Stop arguing.

Solution: Drop Ponting, select me.

Good game, Australia win.
Me and Nails would make a legendary opening pair :P
BB they would bowl half volleys that would be like bouncers to you :P
I take offence to that! >:O
well that was kind of the point of me saying it :-X
Thats it then.
that all you got ::) :P
Not even close.
45 people from Sale are in a bus that goes off a cliff. The police arrive and one of them says "It's such a shame, the bus could hold 50 passengers."
sorry I don't go off at the tiniest insults like you do :-X
I thought you wanted more? :P
I really think Marsh and Khawaja need to be in the same team but I dont see how this can happen without losing experience and getting Watson back in.

My Chumps

Quote from: Bazinga on December 14, 2011, 04:53:33 PM
Haddin is a terrible test match batsman. He has no concept of adjusting his batting style to the situation of the match. His glove work is acceptable, but he was only put into the test team as a 'replacement' for Gilly cos he was recognised as a stroke maker. To be fair, no-one will ever come close to matching Gilly.

We also need to remember that Clarke absolutely loves Haddin, so he won't be going anywhere soon which is a shame. Here ar Haddin's last 9 test innings scores...

5, 15, 80, 16, 55, 5, 0, 35, 30 ... for an average of just 26.78. Hardly good enough for a test standard wicket-keeper.

As for Ponting, Clarke and Hussey - they have been exceptional players for many years and deserve to stay in the side. Honestly we should be looking at our coaching staff and our mental conditioners. The art of test cricket is playing each ball on its merits, something in which Australian batsman seem to be unable to do. Our batsman are continually getting out to poor shots to balls which are consistently outside off stump.
Very well said.

Cicjose

cant teach an old dog new tricks

pyronerd

Quote from: Cicjose on December 14, 2011, 10:28:08 PM
cant teach an old dog new tricks
they don't need new tricks ::)

bomberboy0618

Quote from: Cicjose on December 14, 2011, 10:28:08 PM
cant teach an old dog new tricks
Why dont we give up. That seems your attitude towards Australian cricket.

Cicjose

if you believe that the experience will dig the Aussies out of this hole, then why hasn't it happened already?

The Australian Test team has had the last 4 years to get their shower together and it hasn't happened

the overhaul of the structure of Australian cricket forgot one thing:

The Team itself

Only the senior guys are going on this training camp to improve their technique, with which you people believe that there is no problems with and that they are the players that will lead us out of the doldrums.

Well how can they do that if they cant get their own shower together let alone helping the rest of the team

the only way you think the Aussies improve is through the experienced heads, even though time and time again they have proven they are NO LONGER suited to the world class scrutiny of test cricket.

pyronerd

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Quote from: Cicjose on December 14, 2011, 10:50:45 PM
if you believe that the experience will dig the Aussies out of this hole, then why hasn't it happened already?

The Australian Test team has had the last 4 years to get their shower together and it hasn't happened

the overhaul of the structure of Australian cricket forgot one thing:

The Team itself

Only the senior guys are going on this training camp to improve their technique, with which you people believe that there is no problems with and that they are the players that will lead us out of the doldrums.

Well how can they do that if they cant get their own shower together let alone helping the rest of the team

the only way you think the Aussies improve is through the experienced heads, even though time and time again they have proven they are NO LONGER suited to the world class scrutiny of test cricket.
that's not even our argument against you, d*****s we were arguing that you can't just chuck 6 debutants into the deep end against an all-class team like India, we need experience.

Besides, we need experienced players in the team to be leaders to the younger players

Bazinga

You tell him BB   >:(.  ;)

The fact that our team was so dominant for such a long period has led everyone involved in Australian cricket to believe that it will simply roll on forever. The reality is that we would always come back to the field once the core group of these players departed. We just need to accept that we probably won't ever generate a similar nucleus of players, and that the current crop of players are the best we have ATM.

The other thing to remember is opposition countries will always be out for revenge to atone for the constant drubbings they were dealt throughout this period.

Cicjose

failing to follow domestic cricket would be the downfall for you to issue such a statement

pyronerd

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Quote from: Cicjose on December 14, 2011, 11:28:25 PM
failing to follow domestic cricket would be the downfall for you to issue such a statement
maybe if you were able to understand the argument I and others are presenting you wouldn't be saying this crap, unfortunately you are far to thick to be able to do that :-X

EDIT: Attack on another member.

CrowsFan

Why would any of us enjoy an Indian clean sweep cic? ::)

pyronerd

Quote from: Cicjose on December 14, 2011, 11:40:04 PM
its too late for you to understand anything from Australian cricket

and its time to now to wait and enjoy an Indian clean sweep
How about you head over to bigfooty, you might actually fit in there :-X

Cicjose

because you are all in denial of how bad australia has become

valkorum

How about agreeing to disagree and all of you move on.  Trust me - it wont end well

Cookie Monster

Cic, i am going to prove a point here about why taking experience out of the team kills.

Now i am using the 2 ashes series in Melbourne, the last 2.

now, they are apart and we could have bread more experience into the team.

The young players of the 2000-2007 era where there for so long, they weren't there to breed in straight away after everyone had retired.

2006/07 Ashes Series Team.

Langer, Hayden, Ponting, Martyn, Hussey, Clarke, Gilchrist, Warne, Lee, Clark, Mcgrath.

the young kids then, where the likes of, Hodge, Watson, Haddin, Voges and co.

Besides Haddin and Watson not sure on Voges. But because Hodge couldn't get a game he gave up, and i am sure on others too.

We were left with nothing after that.

Langer, Mcgrath, Warne, Martyn, Hayden, Gilchrist all retired.

then we had no kids to breed in.


The team of the last season.

Watson, Katich, Ponting, Clarke, Hussey, North, Haddin, Johnson, Doherty, Siddle, Hilfenhaus.

Most of those guys were just previously brought into the team making them Inexperienced, and because they were around the 2006/7 Ashes series they were 27-28 but had no experience, they are good players, and that's why we lost, because they were inexperienced. And thats how England won, because they were experienced.

our team now consisting of the top 3 batsmen being under or around the 23 age mark, i reckon we should be bringing in more Experince than dropping, but no, we can't.

And you cic are just thinking that Warner would be like Langer, Hadding like Gilchrist and Starc like Mcgrath.


Your saying we have no idea about Australian cricket, you're the one living in the past.

Get with the times, we have 4-5 experienced players, and no they're not the best but they are the core.

Get flowering used to it.