Boycott Coke

[Master Q]

Roost, you've always known that I say what I think, now is no exception  :P

[bomberboy0618]

Overreaction?

Maybe I should delete my account  ::)

Seems to be the norm after an overreaction  :P

Or a leg break ;)

[Dudge]

I used to always buy a 600ml coke and a paper on the way to work. As soon as the footy season ended, i found i would'nt buy the paper very much, as i normally read the sport section mainly ( footy ). So now i just bring water and don't really stop in the morning, which i think is good. The only problem is, when the footy season starts again, and i buy the paper daily' can i walk past that d..m coke fridge :(

[Cicjose]

Coke 8)

[Grazz]

Overreaction?

+1

Although i openly condemn them for campaigning against the CDS and believe they could invest a lot more of the copious amounts

they earn in profits into Medical Research, Clean Energy etc etc, i lay the blame of obesity at the feet of those that are obese. I

understand there is a percentage of obese people that have medical issues that cause or help cause their weight issue's and for
 
those i truly feel for but for the majority i lay the blame right at their feet, they have the choice to do something about their

problem but continue to shove 10,000+ calories down their throats day in day out and then expect the tax payer to assist in saving

their life when they become critically ill. Ive drunk a litre of coke a day for years and i'm 78kg's and 6'1'' tall. The rubbish we see

clogging our landscape and waterways, i  lay the blame squarely at our feet, it's us that throw the packaging into the

environment, we are the reason the Fauna in this country die from digesting the packaging we carelessly throw onto the ground.

In SA we've lead the way with the recycling initiative, since i was a kid you've been able to get money back for recycling your

drink containers. I don't think i'll stop drinking Coke or mixing it with my Scotch or Bourbon but will fire off a few emails to Coca

Cola Amatil explaining my dismay at their actions regarding the CDS because i'm a responsible citizen who acts responsibly

regarding my Enviroment and Health. Everything in Moderation is fine i believe.

[McRooster]

How many obese people do you see in a Coke commercial?

I get 'the feeling' the answer maybe zero  :P

Roost, you've always known that I say what I think, now is no exception  :P

Yeah I know mate, would expect nothing less. That's the best thing about our relationship, we don't always agree - It'd be pretty boring if we agreed all the time.

As for my 'deactivation' statement, it must've been the bundy talking (minus the coke  ;))

[pyronerd]

Overreaction?

+1

Although i openly condemn them for campaigning against the CDS and believe they could invest a lot more of the copious amounts

they earn in profits into Medical Research, Clean Energy etc etc, i lay the blame of obesity at the feet of those that are obese. I

understand there is a percentage of obese people that have medical issues that cause or help cause their weight issue's and for
 
those i truly feel for but for the majority i lay the blame right at their feet, they have the choice to do something about their

problem but continue to shove 10,000+ calories down their throats day in day out and then expect the tax payer to assist in saving

their life when they become critically ill. Ive drunk a litre of coke a day for years and i'm 78kg's and 6'1'' tall. The rubbish we see

clogging our landscape and waterways, i  lay the blame squarely at our feet, it's us that throw the packaging into the

environment, we are the reason the Fauna in this country die from digesting the packaging we carelessly throw onto the ground.

In SA we've lead the way with the recycling initiative, since i was a kid you've been able to get money back for recycling your

drink containers. I don't think i'll stop drinking Coke or mixing it with my Scotch or Bourbon but will fire off a few emails to Coca

Cola Amatil explaining my dismay at their actions regarding the CDS because i'm a responsible citizen who acts responsibly

regarding my Enviroment and Health. Everything in Moderation is fine i believe.

Very well said Grazz ;)

[Ziplock]

+1 for that :P

[Torpedo10]

I've never been a fan of coke.

[Wes Mantooth]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EqNWfbOMqd0

not only does it contribute to the obesity epidemic that is australia but they have actively and effectively campaigned against CDS in WA and NT. they are a disgrace of a company.

lol

i have coke every day and im not fat

no? well i hope you like the thought of type 2 diabetes because that's what'll happen.

[Wes Mantooth]

Overreaction?

+1

Although i openly condemn them for campaigning against the CDS and believe they could invest a lot more of the copious amounts

they earn in profits into Medical Research, Clean Energy etc etc, i lay the blame of obesity at the feet of those that are obese. I

understand there is a percentage of obese people that have medical issues that cause or help cause their weight issue's and for
 
those i truly feel for but for the majority i lay the blame right at their feet, they have the choice to do something about their

problem but continue to shove 10,000+ calories down their throats day in day out and then expect the tax payer to assist in saving

their life when they become critically ill. Ive drunk a litre of coke a day for years and i'm 78kg's and 6'1'' tall. The rubbish we see

clogging our landscape and waterways, i  lay the blame squarely at our feet, it's us that throw the packaging into the

environment, we are the reason the Fauna in this country die from digesting the packaging we carelessly throw onto the ground.

In SA we've lead the way with the recycling initiative, since i was a kid you've been able to get money back for recycling your

drink containers. I don't think i'll stop drinking Coke or mixing it with my Scotch or Bourbon but will fire off a few emails to Coca

Cola Amatil explaining my dismay at their actions regarding the CDS because i'm a responsible citizen who acts responsibly

regarding my Enviroment and Health. Everything in Moderation is fine i believe.

Very well said Grazz ;)

Whilst I agree to an extent Grazz and that people should want to do the right thing without a monetary incentive, that is not the way most people work. And a CDS scheme will definitely encourage people to recycle and SA is proof.

And drinking that much Coke a day will give you type 2 diabetes, and there's no malice in that, its just the truth.

[Ziplock]

actually, not necessarily. I presume that Grazz is over-exaggerating slightly (because personally I don't like the taste of straight coke that much and am slightly disgusted anyone would willingly drink a litre a day). But, even so, a litre of coke is about the RDI for sugar a day. Considering grazz's height, weight and the presumption he is male, he probably has a faster metabolism than most people, and will subsequently be needing more sugar, on top of other nutrients.

So, he's probably a little over for how much sugar he should be consuming daily... but that doesn't mean he's going to get type 2 diabetes.

[hawk_88]

The other thing to consider here is the actual worth of recycling different materials.

Now I would like to start out by saying the recycling is proof that a human society can actively make a difference to the environment without any sort of personal benefit. However, because it is so widely adopted, people often a quite resistant to what I am going to say.

The net benefit for the "environment" of recycling most materials is actually negative. Once you add up the water, electricity, fuel and chemicals required to clean, sort, transport and process it is sadly higher than that of using brand new materials. In particular relevance to Australia the extra water use is huge.

When you measure it in m² of land impacted (the key measure used to compare environmental impact) per quantity of material, recycling most materials doesn't win either.

Aluminium is one material which is significantly better to recycle though so keep doing that :) .

So many of you will then ask, well what about landfill? Doesn't recycling materials save on landfill? The answer is yes. However, the impact of landfill is significantly overplayed. In fact the landfill impact is considered m² of land measurement I spoke of earlier.

Then you consider the amount of money we each pay councils to run recycling (which in turn pays Judd's salary  :P) and you have to wonder why. I can only imagine where we would be if all the money that was spent of recycling had been put into research into new biodegradable materials, methods of disposal of our current materials and new forms of energy production.

I encourage people to research this further themselves as awareness is what leads to social change. It is also possible that new research has come out since I last looked into this a few years a go and I would love to read anything people come up with.

[AFEV]

Hawk! You flipped a table!

Tough thing to really grasp seeing as we're all told to recycle from a relatively young age, however I can see what you're saying and it does make sense.

[Voldemort]

The other thing to consider here is the actual worth of recycling different materials.

Now I would like to start out by saying the recycling is proof that a human society can actively make a difference to the environment without any sort of personal benefit. However, because it is so widely adopted, people often a quite resistant to what I am going to say.

The net benefit for the "environment" of recycling most materials is actually negative. Once you add up the water, electricity, fuel and chemicals required to clean, sort, transport and process it is sadly higher than that of using brand new materials. In particular relevance to Australia the extra water use is huge.

When you measure it in m² of land impacted (the key measure used to compare environmental impact) per quantity of material, recycling most materials doesn't win either.

Aluminium is one material which is significantly better to recycle though so keep doing that :) .

So many of you will then ask, well what about landfill? Doesn't recycling materials save on landfill? The answer is yes. However, the impact of landfill is significantly overplayed. In fact the landfill impact is considered m² of land measurement I spoke of earlier.

Then you consider the amount of money we each pay councils to run recycling (which in turn pays Judd's salary  :P) and you have to wonder why. I can only imagine where we would be if all the money that was spent of recycling had been put into research into new biodegradable materials, methods of disposal of our current materials and new forms of energy production.

I encourage people to research this further themselves as awareness is what leads to social change. It is also possible that new research has come out since I last looked into this a few years a go and I would love to read anything people come up with.

nice summary there,

But when people finally start using common sense or when the petrol finally runs out, we have to start using renewable energy and the same renewable energy is used to recycle. Water is always the problem, but the thing is, the efficiency of water usage around the world, especially in Australia, is quite embarrassing. If they manage to make water efficiency a higher priority, then recycling will be a better option than making new stuff. A valid argument, but most can be justified if some things are improved (drastically).

BTW are you into environmental economy or renewable engineering?