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Started by Wes Mantooth, November 24, 2011, 11:29:22 PM

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Master Q

Solutions:

Petrol runs out: Solar Cars
Run out of water: According to NASA they'll have people on Mars by 2035-2040  :P

pyronerd

Quote from: Master Q on November 27, 2011, 05:41:43 PM
Solutions:

Petrol runs out: Solar Cars
Run out of water: According to NASA they'll have people on Mars by 2035-2040  :P
and how the hell will they work at night :P

we won't run out of water, it is extremely abundant and cycles continuously around the world

hawk_88

Quote from: Sid on November 27, 2011, 05:23:13 PM
Tough thing to really grasp seeing as we're all told to recycle from a relatively young age, however I can see what you're saying and it does make sense.

That is always going to be an issue, but as I said, it does show that people can adjust with education. Just has to be the right education.

Quote from: Voldemort on November 27, 2011, 05:37:03 PM
But when people finally start using common sense or when the petrol finally runs out, we have to start using renewable energy and the same renewable energy is used to recycle. Water is always the problem, but the thing is, the efficiency of water usage around the world, especially in Australia, is quite embarrassing. If they manage to make water efficiency a higher priority, then recycling will be a better option than making new stuff. A valid argument, but most can be justified if some things are improved (drastically).

BTW are you into environmental economy or renewable engineering?

My views of energy have come up a few times around here, but to summarise nuclear power is the best available in terms of environmental impact and sustainability, with the energy sources that seem most viable for the future are improved efficiency solar, orbital solar and nuclear fusion.

You are definitely right in saying that if we improve in other areas, recycling becomes a more attractive option. It is just those areas are such large issues that will take significant time to improve, even with informed decision makers at the helm.

I am aware of environmental economy and renewable engineering, but only at a basic level. They are in that, so much to read, so little time pile.

Quote from: Sid on November 27, 2011, 05:23:13 PM
Hawk! You flipped a table!

Yes I did  8)

Voldemort

Quote from: pyronerd on November 27, 2011, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: Master Q on November 27, 2011, 05:41:43 PM
Solutions:

Petrol runs out: Solar Cars
Run out of water: According to NASA they'll have people on Mars by 2035-2040  :P
and how the hell will they work at night :P

we won't run out of water, it is extremely abundant and cycles continuously around the world

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They soak up the sun in the morning and they have enough energy to go into night. If you use a lot of the car, you have a back-up battery system that runs on electricity. All in all though, electric cars are a smarter option once solar energy is developed further because there will be no emissions at all

pyronerd

Quote from: Voldemort on November 27, 2011, 07:54:33 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on November 27, 2011, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: Master Q on November 27, 2011, 05:41:43 PM
Solutions:

Petrol runs out: Solar Cars
Run out of water: According to NASA they'll have people on Mars by 2035-2040  :P
and how the hell will they work at night :P

we won't run out of water, it is extremely abundant and cycles continuously around the world

.....................................


They soak up the sun in the morning and they have enough energy to go into night. If you use a lot of the car, you have a back-up battery system that runs on electricity. All in all though, electric cars are a smarter option once solar energy is developed further because there will be no emissions at all

they only do that if they charge a battery (batteries of which at this current point in time are very inefficient). I'd also like to mention that my comment was tongue-in-cheek and was not actually an argument against solar powered cars, which in my opinion will be a ways off anyway.

AFEV

Quote from: pyronerd on November 27, 2011, 08:07:42 PM
Quote from: Voldemort on November 27, 2011, 07:54:33 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on November 27, 2011, 06:08:44 PM
Quote from: Master Q on November 27, 2011, 05:41:43 PM
Solutions:

Petrol runs out: Solar Cars
Run out of water: According to NASA they'll have people on Mars by 2035-2040  :P
and how the hell will they work at night :P

we won't run out of water, it is extremely abundant and cycles continuously around the world

.....................................


They soak up the sun in the morning and they have enough energy to go into night. If you use a lot of the car, you have a back-up battery system that runs on electricity. All in all though, electric cars are a smarter option once solar energy is developed further because there will be no emissions at all

they only do that if they charge a battery (batteries of which at this current point in time are very inefficient). I'd also like to mention that my comment was tongue-in-cheek and was not actually an argument against solar powered cars, which in my opinion will be a ways off anyway.
I read it as a joke tbh :P

Master Q


Grazz

Wes i agree people are slow on the uptake and a cash incentive is a big motivator in the general population. No argument there.

Last check up and blood work i had the blood pressure of a 21 year old i was told, i thought hang on a minute something must be wrong, but i was assured that was correct. No i don't have type2 Diabetes and my prostate is ok just in case your wondering lol.

Zip i assure you  i was'nt exaggerating when i said a litre a day, i promise you all i don't exaggerate and i don't tell fibs, not proud of the fact i do have at least a litre a day but i assure you i'm as healthy as any bloke my age is. I'm pretty active and as you say i definitely have a high metabolism, i can eat and drink as much as i want and rarely put on a lot of weight. Although in saying this if it takes paint of cars my guts could be in strife. I reiterate i'm not proud of this but we all have our vices.

Hawk i agree some recycling takes more energy than it s worth but i believe recycling glass  plastic (soft drink bottles) Aluminium and cardboard which covers most of your drink containers is a viable concern and returns a healthy profit. Every state should of been doing it years ago.

hawk_88

Quote from: Grazz on November 27, 2011, 08:48:59 PM
Hawk i agree some recycling takes more energy than it s worth but i believe recycling glass  plastic (soft drink bottles) Aluminium and cardboard which covers most of your drink containers is a viable concern and returns a healthy profit. Every state should of been doing it years ago.

It does return a healthy profit, but not to the environment nor the public. Visy is a prime example of those who make a profit, but they make a profit because they are paid to collect the materials and then sell the materials. It is a win win.

Glass is fairly even from memory, just more water than brand new.

Plastic is a concern, but currently (as in 4 years ago when I last looked into it) recycling plastic was much worst than brand new in terms of environmental impact.

Paper is the one that gets me. It literally grows on trees. It is biodegradable and degrades very quickly. The difference between brand new paper and recycled paper in terms of environmental impact is the largest of the main recycled materials. Assuming we stay away from old growth forests, paper is the best material we have. All packaging, bags, etc, anything that is consumable where possible, should be paper.

Wes Mantooth

I never said anyone had type 2 diabetes, I said people would get it.

Diabetes type 2 in our parents generation it is rife and they did not have the sugary upbringing that us younger ones have had in the last 30 odd years. You do the math.

Cicjose

i have always thought that i would get diabetes from my coke consumption and as i have people in my family who have it i dont want to get it but im not going to change my lifestyle until it affects my day to day living

RiOtChEsS

some days i could have up to 8 coke zero cans :-[ not overly proud of it but its easier than making 24 coffees

Wes Mantooth

Quote from: Marcz on November 28, 2011, 12:32:27 PM
some days i could have up to 8 coke zero cans :-[ not overly proud of it but its easier than making 24 coffees

but Marcz, coffee tastes so much better! ;)

RiOtChEsS

Quote from: Wes Mantooth on November 28, 2011, 02:42:56 PM
Quote from: Marcz on November 28, 2011, 12:32:27 PM
some days i could have up to 8 coke zero cans :-[ not overly proud of it but its easier than making 24 coffees

but Marcz, coffee tastes so much better! ;)
true that :)

Grazz

I think i'll be fine regardless thanks.