EXV: Belgian Bashers

[The F.A.R.K.]

there really aren't. I remember looking at the DT scores from the U18 championships... martin played like 4 out of 5 games from memory, and outscored everyone else in total points.

edits: anderson, conway played 5 games and outscored him in total points by like less than half a dozen

*edit 2* kennedy, grundy, mcdonough, scharenburg outscored him considerably in total points, but all played 5 games.
edit: hrovat, macrae also outscored

actually flower it, ignore all that.

martin averaged 101.75 ppg

the highest from 5 games average was 97.2 from grundy

the highest average was whitfield

I wasnt making sense. Anyway, Martin had the highest average from the U18s state comp.

Troy Menzel 128ppg

[The F.A.R.K.]

Belgian Bashers are the best recruiting team in the country and we are proud of it

Pick 3: Jimmy Toumpas



At 182cm and 78kg, Toumpas is a goalkicking wingman, possessing class, skill and poise. Although he had an interrupted 2012, due to a hip injury, he was widely regarded as a top three pick for most of the year. He captained South Australia in the NAB AFL under 18 championships and has been regarded by many talent identifiers as a genuine leader at AFL level. Toumpas started playing SANFL in 2011 and was instrumental in the Eagles Grand Final kicking the goal of the day, a running goal from the half foward flank, and collecting 19 touches. Toumpas ave 92 at the NAB AFL under 18 championships which included an injury affected 38.

Mark Neeld says: “We know that in this case, Jimmy has played two years of senior footy and he was drafted with our first pick in the Draft. He captained the South Australian Under 18 team this year, and he’s played two years of senior footy in the SANFL, he's a classy player and can run and kick, so we’re rapt to have him here.”

Pick 4: Oliver Wines



Described as one of the toughest inside midfielders to come out of the under-18 system, Wines said he knows no other way than to bash and crash and win the hard ball. The 18-year-old attacks the footy like former Port hardman Josh Carr but has the ball-winning ability and class of Essendon Brownlow medallist Jobe Watson. Wines' style was moulded by the tutoring of Melbourne development coach Todd Viney, who coached him at junior level and focused heavily on his tackling. Wines avered 99 Dream Team points in the NAB AFL Under 18s championship.

Ken Hinkley says: "He's a really strong, hard, contested footballer but he's got the character as well. We know our club's going to be a better place for having him come into it, he is the sort of player you can build a club around"

Pick 14: Nick Vlastuin



Midfielder/Defender who consistently wins the contested footy and just consistently goes harder than the next player. Big time clearance player. Skill level is exceptional, uses it well by both hand and foot and rarely makes mistakes. Particularly stands out by foot and has nice penetration. Has also been noted for leadership and really leads by example out on the field so there is a lot to like. Marking ability forward of centre very good for a midfielder. Consistently plays to a high level. Athletically only average and endurance still a work in progress and will need to improve before he develops into a full time midfielder. Tackles hard and willingly works both ways. Looks like a very low risk, solid pro who is worthy of a high draft position. Probably didn’t produce the numbers at the u18 champs that many expected but still a very desirable prospect and a guy you can play through the midfield or off a back flank tomorrow. Plays very similar to richmond coach Damien Hardwick and Brownlow medallist Michael Voss. Nick Vlastuin averaged 74 dt points and 6.3 tackles a game at the NAB AFL Under 18s championships

Rohan Walsh (Vic Metro Coach) says: "If I had to compare him to an AFL footballer, I would say that he reminds me of a young Michael Voss.  He is tough, hard at the footy, and the man with the footy, leads by his actions, and uses the ball well. He is an old-school footballer, who just loves competing and getting the best out of himself and his teammates.  He isn’t an athlete, who has been turned into a footballer - he’s quite the opposite"
 
Pick 16: Troy Menzel



He is arguably one of the most talented players on offer, both up forward and in the midfield. He showed what he could do up forward in the first two weeks of the U18 Championships, when he kicked 15 goals in two of the best games the Championships have seen. And he continued that form back in the SANFL, being a regular goal scorer for Central Districts in the league side. His kicking is absolutely top notch, as is general feel of the game. At Carlton he will largely be a forward at AFL level, but one who can have stints in the midfield. He'll play a similar level to Steve Johnson and Alan Didak. He underwent LARS surgery at 16 on his right (non-kicking) leg, strained a posterior cruciate ligament playing for the Bulldogs in this year's SANFL finals series and has a brother, Geelong's Daniel Menzel, who is recovering from a second knee reconstruction in two years. Menzel avered 128 ppg in the NAB AFL under 18s championships.

Kevin Sheehan says: "He kicked nine goals in the first game of the nationals and six goals in the next and he has had two years of senior footy in the SANFL. He can win the ball in any area and is a proven senior forward. If he was available, I would be saying: 'Yep, go Menzel'"

Jimmy Toumpas says: "He is a great player and he could go a long way and whatever club is lucky enough to get him will be pretty happy. I've seem some things he has done at training that obviously no one else has seen."

Pick 41: Dean Terlich



Dean is a medium sized Half backer/Half foward who came off Sydney swans rookie list in 2008. He is quick at the ball a smart thinker and can run all day. Dean collected 31 touches in the SANFL grand final this year and averaged 27 touches for the year. Terlich, a rebounding defender, has been on Melbourne's radar for some time and the club's interest was piqued further when he won the Jack Oatey Medal for best afield in the SANFL Grand Final. Dean played one game in the reserves at the start of the year scoring 75DT, then was quickly elevated to the seniors where he played out the rest of the season for scores of 54, 69, 75, 94, 44, 105, 52, 72, 100, 96, 149, 93, 56, 61, 84, 102, 83, 80 and 139 ( Average: 84.6 ).


Mark Neeld says: "We’ve been tracking Dean for quite a while. We really like the way that he was able to adjust his footy career, by going back. We think he can play straight away. He has lovely skills and is a player who has a history of playing well in big games"

Pick 52: Matt Jones



Another mature aged player Jones is a 25 year old midfielder. Clean running player who arrived at Box Hill this year from Labrador but is originally from South Croydon. Did a pre season with the Western Bulldogs last year and has worked hard on his tackling and defensive pressure. Jones is a run-and-carry player, who can take on the opposition and can hit the scoreboard. The ball-magnet midfielder said he “had a few chats with a couple of clubs, but they were nothing too serious”. Jones is a midfielder capable of playing inside and outside. His scores of 2012 include 101, 27, 75, 79, 65, 51, 81, 57, 43, 82, 82, 118, 89, 113, 45 and 58.

Mark Neeld says: He’s got a great tank and no matter where he’s played - he’s got a background of playing really well in successful clubs. He’s a little bit older and a bit more mature at 25, he can play straight away."

Pick 54: Rory Atkins



Rory Atkins is a medium forward/midfielder with very good agility and composure with the ball. Makes good decisions with his disposal either by hand or on his preferred left foot. Plays as a hit-up half-forward who is a good overhead mark as well as being clean at ground level. Played two games for Vic Metro and averaged more than 20 disposals a game at TAC Cup level. AIS-AFL Academy graduate. Atkins has travelled a different path than most to get to this point. Was one of the standout performers in Victoria as a 16-year-old, which saw him picked in the AIS-AFL Academy. But after a 2011 season that didn't meet expectations, he was cut from the prestigious program for his draft year. He also endured disappointment when he played only two games for Vic Metro at the championships this season before failing to make the final squad. But, in a sign of his maturity, Atkins bounced back. The week after being dropped by Metro he had 37 disposals, kicked two goals and was best afield for the Calder Cannons in their win over the Sandringham Dragons in the TAC Cup. The creative midfielder continued in the same vein, winning the club's best and fairest. Recruiters like his ability to shift forward and make an impact on the scoreboard (he kicked 12 goals in 15 games for the Cannons this year.) Atkins finished equal first in the Kicking test at this years draft combine. In Atkins best game for Sandringham Dragons the stats computer malfunctioned but spectators said Atkins collected close to 50 touches. His TAC games brang DT scores of 126, 23, 60, 102, 56, 69, 128, 67, 97, 78, 159, 96, 60, 35 and 71.

Hamish Ogivile (Crows recruiting manager) says: "Rory is very talented, but things have probably come easy to him. He’s just starting to learn how to work hard now after a few kicks in the pants. He’s had his ups and downs, but he’s been up for the last half of the season and played really well. He still has a bit to learn about the work required to play at AFL level, but you can’t beat talent"

Pick 56: Josh Prudden



Inside midfielder Josh Prudden may have gone under the radar with limited exposure but the Western Bulldogs recruiting team believe they have found a gem with pick number 50 (third round selection) in the 2012 AFL National Draft. A workhorse around the stoppages, the 18 year old will bolster the Bulldogs growing inside midfield stocks buthas the ability to play in defence. Prudden is a hard runner who is accurate by foot and possesses strong leadership skills. He had limited exposure during the TAC Cup this season playing only seven games for the Murray Bushrangers but was a favourite of school (Assumption College) football coach, former Bulldog Scott Wynd

John Dalrymple (Western Bulldogs Recruiter) says: "Josh is a hard running midfielder who has a great ability to win the ball in contested situations and has a neat kick. Went under the radar this year as he only played seven games. We’re thrilled to get him so late in the draft."

Pick 66: Kamdyn McIntosh



The Belgian bashers have selected versatile running half back/wingman Kamdyn McIntosh with it’s final pick in the 2012 draft. McIntosh came to prominence in 2012 with strong performances as a key defender for the WA U18 team in the 2012 Carnival.
Can play on talls and smalls and has a terrific endurance that will allow him to rebound with purpose out of defence. A strong carnival gave him great confidence on his return to WAFL football, and he quickly graduated to the league side at his club Peel Thunder. McIntosh although 192cm tall Can also push up to the wing and play more of a swingman role. He asveraged 74.5 in the WAFL.

Richmond Recruiting staff say: "Kamdyn is a versatile, hard running, athletic defender who we hope can link up with the midfield at times. He is an ideal modern footballer"

[The F.A.R.K.]

This Article is great news for Belgian players Jimmy Toumpas, Dean Terlich and Matt Jones. Toumpas played in the eagles winning SANFL premiership of 2011, Terlich played in Norwoods winning SANFL premiership of 2012 and Jones played at Hawthorns VFL representative Box Hill.

We want winners: Neeld

By Ashley Browne, Monday November 26th

MELBOURNE unveiled its 2012 draftees at AAMI Park on Monday, with coach Mark Neeld reiterating that height, skill and a record of success in big games were the qualities the Demons were most looking for when they entered the draft.

Jimmy Toumpas, Dean Kent, Matt Jones and Dean Terlich fronted the media for the first time. Father-son selection, Jack Viney, something of an old hand when it comes to these sorts of gatherings, was excused while he joined the main group for training.

Toumpas and Terlich have experienced premiership success in the SANFL and join Chris Dawes and Shannon Byrnes (premiership players at Collingwood and Geelong respectively) as those expected to help instill a winning culture at Melbourne. Toumpas might only be aged just 18 but is still expected to play his part.

"We went through from the beginning of free agency to bring to our list, from 18 years to 28 years and from no experience to 170 games, with the idea of doing that," Neeld explained.

"The idea of getting players in from strong organisations was certainly a focus that we had."

Terlich was a premiership winner with SANFL club Norwood in 2012, while Toumpas put in a slashing game for Woodville-West Torrens the year before as a 17-year-old when it won the flag.

Jones, meanwhile, was drafted from the Box Hill Hawks, the Hawthorn-backed VFL club that churns out players for Hawthorn and other AFL clubs on a yearly basis.

All the Melbourne draftees bring with them interesting vignettes that Demon supporters will enjoy learning about ahead of next season.

Kent hails from Clackline, about 100kms east of Perth, which development manager Todd Viney visited on the weekend and reported back to Neeld that it consisted of "six houses and a post office."

"But he's done the hard yards and he had a 200km round trip a few times a week, after working with his Dad's fencing company," Neeld said.

"He's hard at it and he's got a booming left-foot kick and we see a bright future for Dean."

Terlich, a rebounding defender, has been on Melbourne's radar for some time and the club's interest was piqued further when he won the Jack Oatey Medal for best afield in the SANFL Grand Final.

"We were sold on him, but if we needed any more reinforcement - that was good for us," Neeld said. 

"We think he can play straight away. He has lovely skills and is a player who has a history of playing well in big games."

Terlich spent 2008 on the Sydney Swans' rookie list, which gave him an inkling as to what is required at senior AFL level.

When that didn't work out, he headed to South Australia to start a business degree and play for the Red Legs. "I ended up playing my role for the team and it ended up going well," he said.

Jones is a tall and athletic midfielder - all the rage at present according to Neeld - and is also expected to contend for a senior game before long.

"He's got a great tank and no matter where he's played - he's got a background of playing really well in successful clubs. At 25, he can play straight away. He's a little bit older and a bit more mature," said Neeld before adding that the recently-engaged Jones will be able to pay for an engagement ring on his AFL salary.

"I didn't really give up, but I didn't really expect it, so it was definitely a shock," said Jones, who rated himself a "50/50 chance" to be drafted.

"I was rapt, shocked and absolutely stoked."

Toumpas rocked up to his first day with the Demons wearing bright green running shoes, which he said would soon be consigned to the rubbish bin.

"I do regret buying them now," he said before being reminded by his coach that senior AFL players no longer have to buy things.

Of his first day with the club, Toumpas said: "It's all a bit surreal watching the boys train. I was training in the SANFL only a week ago, but to see the skills and the structure and the quick work they do here is unreal and the professionalism has stepped up a whole lot."

Toumpas said the two years of senior football in Adelaide should hold him in good stead, but played down the significance of playing in a premiership with the Eagles.

"This club is up and coming and we're looking forward to good things."

Neeld has turned over nearly half the playing list through two drafts and two trade/free agency periods, but played down the importance of such a large volume saying that even the successful clubs are making big changes to their numbers at the end of each year.

"The list needed to be reshaped and we had a few goals, to get competitive people in from successful organisations. We have done that," he said.

[Ziplock]

there really aren't. I remember looking at the DT scores from the U18 championships... martin played like 4 out of 5 games from memory, and outscored everyone else in total points.

edits: anderson, conway played 5 games and outscored him in total points by like less than half a dozen

*edit 2* kennedy, grundy, mcdonough, scharenburg outscored him considerably in total points, but all played 5 games.
edit: hrovat, macrae also outscored

actually flower it, ignore all that.

martin averaged 101.75 ppg

the highest from 5 games average was 97.2 from grundy

the highest average was whitfield

I wasnt making sense. Anyway, Martin had the highest average from the U18s state comp.

Troy Menzel 128ppg

highest average from 4 or more games.

Menzel wont be averaging 7.5 goals  per game against teams of calibre.

the most you can expect is like 3 goal average (and thats assuming he's a freak). That's 41 ppg difference in his average, which is about a 90 average. As a forward, that's still solid.

[The F.A.R.K.]

there really aren't. I remember looking at the DT scores from the U18 championships... martin played like 4 out of 5 games from memory, and outscored everyone else in total points.

edits: anderson, conway played 5 games and outscored him in total points by like less than half a dozen

*edit 2* kennedy, grundy, mcdonough, scharenburg outscored him considerably in total points, but all played 5 games.
edit: hrovat, macrae also outscored

actually flower it, ignore all that.

martin averaged 101.75 ppg

the highest from 5 games average was 97.2 from grundy

the highest average was whitfield

I wasnt making sense. Anyway, Martin had the highest average from the U18s state comp.

Troy Menzel 128ppg

highest average from 4 or more games.

Menzel wont be averaging 7.5 goals  per game against teams of calibre.

the most you can expect is like 3 goal average (and thats assuming he's a freak). That's 41 ppg difference in his average, which is about a 90 average. As a forward, that's still solid.

Id expect a 65-75 average from menzel this year it will take him a few years to find that 85-95 average

[The F.A.R.K.]

The Bashers now have exactly 40 players but are looking to trade/delist a few players before the rookie draft

Backmen
Grant Birchall, Bachar Houli, Andrew Carrazzo (mid), Reece Conca

Midfield
Marc Murphy (C), Andrew Swallow (VC), Dale Thomas, Matthew Priddis

Utilities
Shaun Grigg, Matthew Rosa

Ruck
Hamish McIntosh

Forwards
Mitch Robinson (mid), Matthew Pavlich, Matthew Wright (mid), Clancee Pearce


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Bench

Def - Daniel Nicholson (mid), Jimmy Toumpas (mid), Nick Vlastuin (mid), Dean Terlich (fwd), Campbell Heath, Nick Suban, Rhyce Shaw, Kamdyn McIntosh, Jimmy Webster, Ben Darrou

Mid -  Oliver Wines, Kyal Horsely, Matt Jones, Josh Prudden, Travis Colyer, Mitchell Banner,

Ruck - Brent Renouf, Matthew Lobbe

Fwd - Jarryd Blair (mid), Chris Knights (mid), Troy Menzel, Rory Atkins (mid), Brad Symes, James Podsiadly, Lincoln McCarthy

[Holz]

thats one impresive team.

Could potentially be decimated with loss of DPP though. If you keep them though you could be looking at that second spot everyone is fighting for on the table (behind the eagles of course)

[The F.A.R.K.]

thats one impresive team.

Could potentially be decimated with loss of DPP though. If you keep them though you could be looking at that second spot everyone is fighting for on the table (behind the eagles of course)

Supercoach fb page released their dpp changes and none of our players were on the list so hoping no more changes are made

[Ricochet]

M0nty has updated the player profiles to show sub affected games :D
Without these games:

Birchall89, Houli79, Stanley93, Nicholson71

Murphy105, Swallow103, Priddis98, Carrazzo101
Grigg98, Rosa95

McIntosh91

Thomas97, Robinson93, Pavlich95, Pearce90


Also doesn't take into account injury affected games (but not subbed), coming back from injuries, etc.

[The F.A.R.K.]

M0nty has updated the player profiles to show sub affected games :D
Without these games:

Birchall89, Houli79, Stanley93, Nicholson71

Murphy105, Swallow103, Priddis98, Carrazzo101
Grigg98, Rosa95

McIntosh91

Thomas97, Robinson93, Pavlich95, Pearce90


Also doesn't take into account injury affected games (but not subbed), coming back from injuries, etc.

Clancee pearce had 3 games of 30s due to concussions...#bestfwdlineinleague

[elephants]

M0nty has updated the player profiles to show sub affected games :D
Without these games:

Birchall89, Houli79, Stanley93, Nicholson71

Murphy105, Swallow103, Priddis98, Carrazzo101
Grigg98, Rosa95

McIntosh91

Thomas97, Robinson93, Pavlich95, Pearce90


Also doesn't take into account injury affected games (but not subbed), coming back from injuries, etc.

Clancee pearce had 3 games of 30s due to concussions...#bestfwdlineinleague

How good is he #legitlovehashtags

[elephants]

Yes I know the pictures in the OP are screwed but I can't be flowered altering them until the end of drafting/trading :P

[Holz]

Ele is away for the month So Fark and RIc are taking over the bashers decisions.

[Ricochet]

Ele is away for the month So Fark and RIc are taking over the bashers decisions.

soooo who wants Murphy, Thomas, Fyfe, Robinson, Birchall?  :P

[The F.A.R.K.]

Bashers welcome

Danyle Pearce
Tom T. Lynch
Jack Hannath
Jack Crisp
Ben Sinclair
Cameron Guthrie
George Horlin Smith
Tom Jonas
Jamie Cripps
Jackson Allen
Nathan Stark
Jake Lloyd

All through the rookie draft