World 15 Discussion

[PowerBug]

FANFOOTY  IS BACK!!!!

Took your time. :P

It's been up for a whole 70 minutes now.

[c4v3m4n]

You know what would be cool, a World 15s emblem, like the AFL

It's on my list of things to do P77.  ;)

[PowerBug]

We'll get there. :)

All we need to do after this is contact the AFL and tell them that it's over, and the players would rather play World 15s. ;D

And we become millionaires to run these clubs and get to travel around the world.

[ossie85]

We'll get there. :)

All we need to do after this is contact the AFL and tell them that it's over, and the players would rather play World 15s. ;D

And we become millionaires to run these clubs and get to travel around the world.

I willing to negotiate with Andy D over player access. Mostly out of goodwill

[Boomz]

Rumour has it the Tokyo Samurai have hired a new assistant & are going hard for an assistant from another club! and he is not the only one we are after .... all to be revealed :P

[ossie85]

How's this for deciding the WXV's version of the "Brownlow" (which I don't think we've decided on a name, but I think the Jim Stynes medal was favourite...)

I love the Brownlow (go Swanny! Pendles 2012) but it does tend to heavily favour midfield. And in WXV in particular, it is definitely not just a midfielders game!

So, probably easiest way to explain it would be this:

The might Seoul Magpies take on the Berlin Brewers, with some randomly generated scores. We group the 15 players each into three groups

The groups:
Seoul's 4 backmen + 1 interchange versus Berlin's 4 forwards + 1 interchange
Seoul's 4 midfielders + 1 ruck versus Berlin's 4 midfielders + 1 ruck
Seoul's 4 forwards + 1 interchange versus Berlin's 4 forwards + 1 interchange

Note: Captains bonus doesn't come into this :)


   Seoul   
B1   Gibbs   98
B2   Yarran   58
B3   O'Brien   65
B4   Ellis   93
I1   Ballantyne   100
   Total   414

M1   Trengove   69
M2   Scully   108
M3   Kelly   53
M4   Power   94
R1   McEvoy   53
   Total   377

F1   Kreuzer   108
F2   Sidebottom   76
F3   Dawes   89
F4   Steven   75
I2   Bolton   115
   Total   463


   Berlin   
F1   Franklin   52
F2   Stokes   112
F3   Butcher   87
F4   Howe   77
I1   Renouf   109
   Total   437

M1   Griffen   51
M2   Wells   119
M3   Moloney   93
M4   Ball   53
R1   Jamar   51
   Total   367

B1   Broughton   114
B2   Duffield   76
B3   Otten   81
B4   Hibberd   71
I2   Garland   75
   Total   417



So we compare totals....

   Seoul   v   Berlin
Seoul's defenders (414) lost to Berlin's forward (437) by 23 points
Seoul's midfield (377) defeated Berlin's midfield (367) by 10 points
Seoul's forwards (463) defeated Berlin's defenders (417) by 46 points


The highest difference is Seoul's forwards defeating Berlin's defenders. We then look at the Seoul's forwards and see JUDE BOLTON is the highest scorer. So he gets 3 votes.

The next highest difference is Berlin's forwards defeating Seoul's defenders. We look at Berlin's forwards and see MATTHEW STOKES is the highest scorer. So he gets 2 votes.

The lowest difference is Seoul's midfield defeating Berlin's midfield. Again, we look at Seoul's midfield and see TOM SCULLY is the highest scorer. So he gets 1 vote.

Final votes:

3: J Bolton (Seoul)
2. M Stokes (Berlin)
1. T Scully (Seoul)

Whereas if we just looked at the highest scores it would be:

3. D Wells (Berlin)
2. J Bolton (Seoul)
1. G Broughton (Berlin)


Yes, I think about this too much.

[PowerBug]

But you make it fairer, makes it more of a team game over a individual game.

+1 to that idea.

[bomberboy0618]

Love the idea. Great work Oss :)

[meow meow]

The interchange players should be in whatever group they play in position-wise.

[c4v3m4n]

To make it less complicated, why don't you use m0nty's system of calculating the Fantasy Brownlow winner, the "Superstar"

= 5 votes
= 4 votes
= 3 votes
= 2 votes
= 1 vote

The Superstar page used to be available but he's reset it for 2012, so I'm not quite sure where , or the seagull would now go.

Thoughts?

[ossie85]

The interchange players should be in whatever group they play in position-wise.

Yeah, but some people might have 6 backs to 4 forwards... could get tricky...


m0nty's system again favours midfielders :(

[ossie85]

I'll crush you like the bugs VW create....

[Ziplock]

the only issue is that it, like the brownlow, favours the winning team. For instance, in this scenario, Seoul beats Berlin, a large part because Berlin's defenders all flopped, with the exception of broughts who held up the backline. In that scenario, broughton really kept his team in the game- if he had competed at the same level as the rest of the defenders, they would have gotten trounced by even more than they did.

You get what I mean?

[ossie85]

the only issue is that it, like the brownlow, favours the winning team. For instance, in this scenario, Seoul beats Berlin, a large part because Berlin's defenders all flopped, with the exception of broughts who held up the backline. In that scenario, broughton really kept his team in the game- if he had competed at the same level as the rest of the defenders, they would have gotten trounced by even more than they did.

You get what I mean?

This is true :) Must admit I kind of wanted it to favour the winning team, but happy for other techniques?

[Maca24]

Based on averages I am looking at 1500 including captain :P

Wish I had a big gun though like Pendles, would gain a lot with captain points.