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Bluesman · October 29, 2011, 06:09:23 PM

Hey there,
thought i'd get in on the act of forwarding my first up team!
A word of warning... it's VERY midfield heavy with my thinking being going for a very much proven premium & rookie structure. Obviously i would tinker the rookies the first few weeks to try and grab the best bargain rookies that are playing. Also hoping to grab Lake as a premium for basically nothing and would only choose Porpoise if he's bargain basement...

cheers :)

TEAM NAME: Incredibles
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, B. Lake, M. Buntine, S. Docherty, T. Bugg (B. Smedts, W. Sierakowski)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, D. Shiel)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, N. Naitanui (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, M. Pavlich, P. Ryder, J. Lamb, B. Newton, J. Porplyzia (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $11,400

charliesheen · October 29, 2011, 06:15:26 PM

Thats probably the way my team is heading at the moment structure wise. Though I think there is more value in the forward line then the back line.

Which is exactly what I would have done in 2011 if I had to start again.

Saying that, I haven't really looked into things in detail with the multi-round byes and strength of schedule.

truBLUE · October 29, 2011, 06:21:27 PM

nice team bluesman ,think i,ll be looking more into my mids for next season, the multi-round byes will cause a few head aches

Voldemort · October 30, 2011, 11:15:57 AM

You mids will score a 1000 a week haha 8), the rucks I'm worried about, NicNat isnt a proven SC performer- yet. Lake, I have my doubts on, keep checking him heavily throughout the pre-season and the NAB cup. Your forward line is a bit of a mess (sorry). Only three premiums (not counting Ryder) with two of them really ageing (Goodes, Pav). I dont know about Lamb and Newton (never heard of them) and your bench is pretty scarce. What I would do is to reduced your midfield power and increase the amount of premiums in both your back and forwards.

Bluesman · October 30, 2011, 07:31:36 PM

Quote from: Voldemort on October 30, 2011, 11:15:57 AM
You mids will score a 1000 a week haha 8), the rucks I'm worried about, NicNat isnt a proven SC performer- yet. Lake, I have my doubts on, keep checking him heavily throughout the pre-season and the NAB cup. Your forward line is a bit of a mess (sorry). Only three premiums (not counting Ryder) with two of them really ageing (Goodes, Pav). The dont know about Lamb and Newton (never heard of them) and your bench is pretty scarce. What I would do is to reduced your midfield power and increase the amount of premiums in both your back and forwards.

Thanks for the feedback V. agree with many of your thoughts that also went through my head. Supposedly 'better' rucks and forwards than those i have i have issues with - manly to do with their injury history. Despite Pav and Goodes being older i believe Pav moving back to the fwd line won't affect his scoring at much and Goodes seemed to be in the form (& fitness) of his life and will surely roam where he chooses next year (hopefully around CHF and p/t rucking) due to Sydney's potential improvement in their forward line. Ultimately my thinking is to grab the ultra premiums (even if they are a bit more costly) to later save on trades- as by downgrading my mids i will only look to gettng the ones i've now chosen! Also the "ultra" Fwd and Back premiums at season's end are never as much to pick up throughout the year (incl. Buddy for example) so that is why i have gone light in those lines. As i said, the key will be in selecting the correct bargain rookies for this to work...time will tell!

Voldemort · October 31, 2011, 09:23:40 AM

you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)

LiveTheDream · October 31, 2011, 11:09:01 AM

i agree with your thinking bluesman! if you're going to pay the big $$ for 'premium' players then you want the guys that can go huge and consistently score well. what good is paying 450-500k for a player who throws in a 60 or 70 every so often and then drops 100k because of it. you are better off paying 550k for the pendlebury's and murphy's like i did last year...

last year i started with swan, selwood, pendlebury, murphy and boyd and that worked a treat, had easily my best year by going with this strategy. With the right captain choice on good weeks my midfield would deliver 1000+

Voldemort · October 31, 2011, 07:51:44 PM

Quote from: LiveTheDream on October 31, 2011, 11:09:01 AM
i agree with your thinking bluesman! if you're going to pay the big $$ for 'premium' players then you want the guys that can go huge and consistently score well. what good is paying 450-500k for a player who throws in a 60 or 70 every so often and then drops 100k because of it. you are better off paying 550k for the pendlebury's and murphy's like i did last year...

last year i started with swan, selwood, pendlebury, murphy and boyd and that worked a treat, had easily my best year by going with this strategy. With the right captain choice on good weeks my midfield would deliver 1000+

all the top team have balance, you cant stack up in the midfield and neglect the backline, that's what one of my mates did and paid a heavy price

charliesheen · October 31, 2011, 07:57:02 PM

Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 07:51:44 PM
all the top team have balance, you cant stack up in the midfield and neglect the backline, that's what one of my mates did and paid a heavy price

Your mate must have screwed up the rookie/mid priced selections. In 2011, the backs had the most value. Lower, Stanley, Heppel, Duigan, Martin, Suckling, etc... were all given back classifications and consistent performers.

I would argue having less premiums in the back was optimal.

Bluesman · November 01, 2011, 08:44:30 AM

Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)

Know what you're saying. As much it kills me to leave Pendles out, you're probably right. Also I know i'l be given a hard time with the fwd line but i really find this sooooooo hard to pick each year with not many 'locks'. Besides i see this is where many more mid options are looking to be..... How does this balance stack up then?? Thanks for your comments everyone, cheers :)

TEAM NAME: Incredibles Mark 2!!
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, B. Lake, S.Morris?, B. Smedts (T.Mohr, W. Sierakowski)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, A. Treloar)
RUC: T. Goldstein, M. Leuenberger (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, P. Ryder, J. Grant, J. Lisle, J. Lamb, B. Newton (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $14,100

Rookie fwds might include Zorko/Saad

Bluesman · November 01, 2011, 08:55:49 AM

lol....just noticed i'm not going to score much Round 12 with 4 of my mids out - or Round 11 with both Berger and Goldy out!!! :-[
What are people's thoughts anyway as to whether this works itself out come year's end?? ie. Does the few hundred points I lose those couple of weeks be made up gradually the other non-bye weeks... being maybe a bit stronger than some others (which is a HUGE assumption to make i know!! lol..)

Ziplock · November 01, 2011, 08:59:17 AM

I don't know. We're going to have to wait and see what ideas the SC/DT guys come up with for the byes. If they make like 4 benchies, then it's doable, if they make it so we get unlimited and not counted trades only for those players with a bye, that get reverted after the bye, then it's easily doable. I think, out of all the proposed solutions I've seen, the revertible trades is the best. 6 teams at once is too much for strategy, I say just give a nice big- flower you, to the afl fixture and pretend the byes don't exist.

Voldemort · November 01, 2011, 09:29:38 AM

Quote from: Bluesman on November 01, 2011, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)
Know what you're saying. As much it kills me to leave Pendles out, you're probably right. Also I know i'l be given a hard time with the fwd line but i really find this sooooooo hard to pick each year with not many 'locks'. Besides i see this is where many more mid options are looking to be..... How does this balance stack up then?? Thanks for your comments everyone, cheers :)

TEAM NAME: Incredibles Mark 2!!
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, B. Lake, S.Morris?, B. Smedts (T.Mohr, W. Sierakowski)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, A. Treloar)
RUC: T. Goldstein, M. Leuenberger (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, P. Ryder, J. Grant, J. Lisle, J. Lamb, B. Newton (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $14,100

Rookie fwds might include Zorko/Saad

I can count 2 true premiums in the fwd line (excluding Ryder), you need more :-X

Bluesman · November 09, 2011, 07:39:40 AM

Quote from: Voldemort on November 01, 2011, 09:29:38 AM
Quote from: Bluesman on November 01, 2011, 08:44:30 AM
Quote from: Voldemort on October 31, 2011, 09:23:40 AM
you have 4 super premiums in you mids, why not change that? Get better balance of your team, anyway good luck ;)
Know what you're saying. As much it kills me to leave Pendles out, you're probably right. Also I know i'l be given a hard time with the fwd line but i really find this sooooooo hard to pick each year with not many 'locks'. Besides i see this is where many more mid options are looking to be..... How does this balance stack up then?? Thanks for your comments everyone, cheers :)

TEAM NAME: Incredibles Mark 2!!
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, B. Lake, S.Morris?, B. Smedts (T.Mohr, W. Sierakowski)
MID: G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, D. Mundy, M. Barlow, C. Bartlett (S. Clifton, A. Treloar)
RUC: T. Goldstein, M. Leuenberger (R. Stanley, J. Giles)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, P. Ryder, J. Grant, J. Lisle, J. Lamb, B. Newton (Z. Skinner, T. Walsh)
CASH LEFT: $14,100

Rookie fwds might include Zorko/Saad

I can count 2 true premiums in the fwd line (excluding Ryder), you need more :-X

Still a very much Premium/rookie structure. Have foregone the MPP R/F and gone for West. Feel that it's not obvious at this stage who the best ruck will be so why spend it now! Have fun pulling apart.... :P

TEAM NAME: Incredibles
DEF: B. Goddard, B. Deledio, B. Gibbs, H. Shaw, S. Fisher, S. Docherty, T. Mohr (S. Morris, W. Sierakowski)
MID: S. Pendlebury, G. Ablett jnr, D. Swan, J. Selwood, T. Mitchell, C. Bartlett (C. Smith, A. Treloar)
RUC: M. Leuenberger, T. West (J. Giles, J. Redden)
FWD: L. Franklin, A. Goodes, N. Fyfe, T. Cloke, J. Lamb, M. Panos, A. Saad (T. Walsh, D. Zorko)
CASH LEFT: $127,200

Speculator · November 09, 2011, 01:09:44 PM

mate, don't let them scare you off naitanui. He will become the best ruckman in the league at some point, maybe even next year. Stick with him. I am. He played injured in 2011 and now he has had the surgery he will be even stronger. He is a good, slightly unique ruck selection this year which could pay massive dividends. The guy is an absolute jet. What other ruckman can break away from centre clearances like him. None. None now and none ever before. Select him.