2012 Ladder

[Cicjose]

Richmond to make the 8 i think in 6th spot

[Usman]

Isn't firepower different to X-factor?

Regardless, you'll find that the Swans best games are not when goodes takes 15 marks and has 38-9 possesions but ones where the disposals and goals are spread very evenly.

That's the whole reason I believe they beat the Cats and almost beat the Pies this year.

Goodes never has and never will get 38-39 possessions but I see your point. I don't agree with your poor though as when goodes dominates so do Sydney but I respect your view.

[Ringo]

Still believe Melbourne and Brisbane are the smokeys for the eight this year  especially considering their draws for the last 11 games (Melbourne playing no one from this years top 4 and only St Kilda from the Top 8 )

[Ziplock]

ehhh, he's had 33-35 possession games before, so 37 to 38 isnt that much of a stretch

[Usman]

I know I know, but he is ageing and has to slow at some point. Although those 33-35 diposal games were probably last year if I am not mistaken? Goodes has just never been the type of player that gets huge disposal numbers he very rarely gets over 30.

[TheMailman]

I understand what you guys are talking about although I feel Sydney really won't drop much when Goodes leaves

Swans always make the eight and with a relativly good draw. I think they'll go 6th-8th

Their young ones in Hanneberry, Jack, Reid etc. still need to mature before they can smash into the top 4 again  :)

[elephants]

I think the swans will be the team over the next decade or so that finish 5th - 10th. No big surprises for better or worse IMO.

[Bluke]

I think the swans will be the team over the next decade or so that finish 5th - 10th. No big surprises for better or worse IMO.

+1

[Wes Mantooth]

After careful consideration and assessment of the draw I've developed the following:

COLLINGWOOD
HAWTHORN
CARLTON
GEELONG
FREMANTLE
WEST COAST
NTH MELBOURNE
SYDNEY
ESSENDON
RICHMOND
ADELAIDE
ST KILDA
BRISBANE
PORT ADELAIDE
WESTERN BULLDOGS
MELBOURNE
GOLD COAST                         
GREATER WESTERN SYDNEY

PURPLE = 15 wins + BLUE = 14-10 wins ORANGE = 9-5 wins RED = 4 wins or less

[Jukes]

Mine, considering all teams receive equal injuries;
Top 8: Hawthorn, Collingwood, Geelong, Fremantle, Carlton, Essendon, Sydney, St Kilda.
Bottom 10: West Coast, North Melbourne, Western Bulldogs, Brisbane, Richmond, Adelaide, Melbourne, Gold Coast, GWS, Port Adelaide.

[meow meow]

You can get $2 odds for Freo to make the finals from most betting agencies.

Remortgage the house.

[Wes Mantooth]

why does everyone think the eagles are top 4?

they fluked it this year

they fluked it? wow... idiot.

[TheMailman]

Nobody can fluke a 24plus game season Cic

[ossie85]

The Eagles didn't fluke it, they won when it mattered. But they did overachieve IMO, 5th-8th for me, and could slip out if any of there keys get injured (Cox, Glass, Priddis, Kennedy)

[j959]

Nobody can fluke a 24plus game season Cic

and @Wes - Cic is just a one-eyed Freo supporter so that makes him an Eagles hater as of right ...  ;)