2012 Ladder

[Voldemort]

their list is old (and pretty slow and sloppy) and their youth isnt the most talented in the league,

[maanco]

after a quick look over the Fixture and a better look at teams lists i have changed my ladder around a little bit.

1. Hawthorn
2. Collingwood
3. Carlton
4. Geelong
5. St.Kilda
6. West Coast
7. Fremantle
8. Sydney
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9. Essendon
10. North Melbourne
11. Melbourne
12. Richmond
13. Western Bulldogs
14. Adelaide
15. Brisbane
16. Gold Coast
17. Port Adelaide
18. Greater Western Sydney

Something like that!

[elephants]

why does everyone think the eagles are top 4?

they fluked it this year

Wow really Cic. Someone been bitten by the jealousy bug?

Yes our older players played well

BUT

Le Cras, JK, Shuey, Rosa, Gaff, Darling, Scott Selwood and Ashley Smith are all under 25 and one year more experienced. I expect another top four.

[elephants]

Collingwood
Geelong
Hawthorn
West Coast
Carlton
St. Kilda
Essendon
Sydney

Fremantle
Kangaroos
Adelaide
Melbourne
GoldCoast
Bulldogs
Richmond
Brisbane
Port Adelaide
GWS

[c4v3m4n]

Surely with the Roos playing GWS and GC twice, we'd be a little further up the list...  ;D

[Ziplock]

why? another 4 losses isn't going to propel you up to the top 8 c4 :P

[ossie85]

Collingwood (2011, 1st)
Geelong (2nd)
Hawthorn (3rd)
West Coast (4th)
Carlton (5th)
St. Kilda (6th)
Essendon (8th)
Sydney (7th)

Fremantle (11th)
Kangaroos (9th)
Adelaide (14th)
Melbourne (13th)
GoldCoast (17th)
Bulldogs (10th)
Richmond (12th)
Brisbane (15th)
Port Adelaide (16th)
GWS (-)

Right. So pretty much the same ladder as this year?

[elephants]

Yeah more or lessnot expecting anyone to shoot up or tumble down

[Voldemort]

Yeah more or lessnot expecting anyone to shoot up or tumble down

I would expect Freo to be ahead of Sydney and the Saints out of the 8. The Suns probably wouldnt jump that high so soon, but they might. The top four is debatable, but only in what order they are in  ;)

[ajjewell]

Collingwood (2011, 1st)
Geelong (2nd)
Hawthorn (3rd)
West Coast (4th)
Carlton (5th)
St. Kilda (6th)
Essendon (8th)
Sydney (7th)
Fremantle (11th)
Kangaroos (9th)
Adelaide (14th)
Melbourne (13th)
GoldCoast (17th)
Bulldogs (10th)
Richmond (12th)
Brisbane (15th)
Port Adelaide (16th)
GWS (-)

I think North and Melbourne in place of St Kilda and Essendon and that ladder will look pretty good

[TheMailman]

1. Collingwood - Really couldn't pick yet between them and Geelong. Collingwood don't have a great draw though......
2. Geelong - vice versa
3. Hawthorn - So close to a Grand Final between and Geelong and who knows what could of happened. Hunger should remain.
4. Carlton - Really expecting them to turn into a top 2 side soon. They've had basically forever....
5. West Coast - Surely the massive turnaround wasn't a fluke
6. Sydney - They look like they might have helped goalscoring a bit but not enough to warrant a huge top 4 chase
7. North Melbourne - A great draw for them will be a big factor to the finals series.
8. Essendon - Will be a struggle for 8th with the potential big imrpovers in Adelaide...

9. Adelaide - Wouldn't be surprised if they reach higher. It's just that with so many new players I think 2013 would look better
10. Fremantle - Recovering Injuries would give them a slow start
11. Western Bulldogs - Unless they improve big time this year their not heading up.....
12. St. Kilda - The biggest change I imagine but I might have got it horrendiously wrong. Everything possible has gone bad.
13. Richmond - Can pull some ok games out of the hat occasionally. They still need a Riewoldt supporter badly though
14. Brisbane - Deserve to finish above this years perfomance
15. Gold Coast - Some people are tipping a top 11 finish this year. Takes a bit longer for the bodies to mature into AFL players.
16. Melbourne - Pretty similar situation to Richmond. Leadership issues too and a new staff etc.
17. Port Adelaide - They need to stamp out all Financial/Coaching issues at the start of the season to finish higher
18. GWS - Really not sure if they'll be similar to GC next season. I would imagine a bit worse based on the difference in the marque signings (Scully v Ablett, Brennan v Ward, Bock v Davis)

Note: Just because your team doesn't make the finals it doesn't mean I have a vendetta against them!

[ossie85]

Ok list! Bit similar to last year!

Harsh on the Demons though. Apparently they aren't even going to make it to round 1 according to that ladder ;)

[TheMailman]

Ok list! Bit similar to last year!

Harsh on the Demons though. Apparently they aren't even going to make it to round 1 according to that ladder ;)

:P

Too clever ossie  ;)

Also you couldn't really expect too many changes from this season?

I couldn't really put a finger on positions 7-10

[Ziplock]

... how is that harsh os?

[TheMailman]

... how is that harsh os?

Forgot to put them on the ladder  ::)

Now that I fixed it Ossie's comment looks silly  ;D