Andrew Walker All-Australian? I think not.

[Cruiseon]

SJ kicked 3 against Carlton in their closest game of the year (and was 2nd best on ground) kicked 2 against the Bulldogs (rd 11) and was BOG, 2 against the Hawks (5 point win in round 12) and was in the best, & kicked another 3 against the Bombers when they lost. 

And if Collingwood are the bench mark here was the report from the AFL website that night

Toyota AFL Dream Team highlight
Geelong: Steve Johnson played an excellent game, picking up 25 disposals, eight marks, nine tackles and a goal for 127 Dream Team points - the most on the ground.

Given this and his good record in finals, I think it's fair to say he plays pretty well in big games unlike some of the others mentioned.

[ossie85]

Must admit, I don't really respect forward pocket as a permanent position. Is just where you put midfielders until they develop like Cousins and Gaj.

[Cruiseon]

Maybe the era has long departed but Peter Daicos?

[Nails]

Do you really have to play well against the best team to be AA?

Surely the entire Carlton side on average play worse in a loss (against the top sides) than when they play against the bottom sides. You have to consider how a player has played for the entire season, not just against the "best" sides...

If you wanted only players that played well against "good" sides... i.e. Hawks/Collingwood/Cats

Then there'd be no forwards/backs from any side other than the best 3 simply because those 3 sides (not so much Hawks to the same extent) SMASH the opposition making the forwards/backs play "poorly" against the top sides... therefore all sides outside the top 3 have their backs/forwards play poorly... The fact Walker got a possession against the pies is quality :(

[PowerBug]

+1. Think about the players that get chosen from low clubs on the ladder. James Frawley for example. Last season Melbourne finished 11-12th (short memory) but because Frawley had like 0 goals kicked on him, AA deserves to be his.

[Tankers]

Stevie j is the biggest front runner in the afl

[kingkingston]

Ok. First of all, Andrew Walker has had a great year, and it is not my intent to bag him.

But I can not believe how many people have him pegged as an All-Australian this year. He has not proven himself against the top teams. And is not up to that standard.

Some stats.....

SC Average: 88.64
Goals per game: 2.57

Not bad for a small-ish forward.

Oh.. .but wait....

Against Top 8 Sides
SC Average: 69.17
Goals per game: 1.00

Against Bottom 9 Sides
SC Average: 103.25
Goals per game: 3.75

That is far too big a difference. Yes, all players better against worse teams. But not by that much.

In the 4 games Carlton haven't won, he has averaged 59.50 SC, at 0.50 goals per game. Take away the Geelong match, and it goes down to 44.67 and no goals scored. So I will give him credit for the Geelong match! 20 goals in his 4 matches against the current bottom 4 sides have inflated his worth.

And Steven Milne's record now please........

[ossie85]

Personally think Stevie J was robbed, not a fan of Milne either

[kingkingston]

Personally think Stevie J was robbed, not a fan of Milne either

I think Milne got about 17-20 goals against top 8 teams