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Boomz

Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
Obviously the roos don't agree with u nmf or otherwise mcintosh would be playing. He offers nothing that Goldy & Petrie don't do.
Maybe because he's coming off one of the worst injuries you can have in footy and they're trying to get him fully match fit before bringing him back into the highest level. But oh no, ofcourse that can't be it!

Obviously you have never watched a VFL match.
Please explain why?

Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
I don't understand how that makes him a worse ruck. What are you even arguing?

Based on talent and what we've seen, Hamish and Goldstein are clearly better than your guys.
I am saying Hmac has no place in your team.

Even if they are better (which I don't think they are) it is hardly 'clear.'
If anything I think Hmac will detract from the current ruck setup.

NMF Hmac will never reach the heights he did before his injury.
If playing 3 talls apparently works so well for Essendon, why wouldn't playing 2 work for NM?

He has been match fit for weeks. also sid never said 3 talls worked well...

pyronerd

Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
Obviously the roos don't agree with u nmf or otherwise mcintosh would be playing. He offers nothing that Goldy & Petrie don't do.
Maybe because he's coming off one of the worst injuries you can have in footy and they're trying to get him fully match fit before bringing him back into the highest level. But oh no, ofcourse that can't be it!

Obviously you have never watched a VFL match.
Please explain why?

Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
I don't understand how that makes him a worse ruck. What are you even arguing?

Based on talent and what we've seen, Hamish and Goldstein are clearly better than your guys.
I am saying Hmac has no place in your team.

Even if they are better (which I don't think they are) it is hardly 'clear.'
If anything I think Hmac will detract from the current ruck setup.

NMF Hmac will never reach the heights he did before his injury.
If playing 3 talls apparently works so well for Essendon, why wouldn't playing 2 work for NM?
Petrie and Goldy adds up to 2 if I'm not mistaken

AFEV

2 forwards can and does work. I just don't think that North will want to move etrie out of his current role and the way Hmac is moving after his injury (essentially he is slow as all flower) he won't be able to do much else.

Perhaps you should accept that he isn't as good as you think he is.

Essendon doesn't play 3 tall forwards either and when we did it failed epically.

North Melbournes Finest

Quote from: pyronerd on August 15, 2011, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
Obviously the roos don't agree with u nmf or otherwise mcintosh would be playing. He offers nothing that Goldy & Petrie don't do.
Maybe because he's coming off one of the worst injuries you can have in footy and they're trying to get him fully match fit before bringing him back into the highest level. But oh no, ofcourse that can't be it!

Obviously you have never watched a VFL match.
Please explain why?

Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
I don't understand how that makes him a worse ruck. What are you even arguing?

Based on talent and what we've seen, Hamish and Goldstein are clearly better than your guys.
I am saying Hmac has no place in your team.

Even if they are better (which I don't think they are) it is hardly 'clear.'
If anything I think Hmac will detract from the current ruck setup.

NMF Hmac will never reach the heights he did before his injury.
If playing 3 talls apparently works so well for Essendon, why wouldn't playing 2 work for NM?
Petrie and Goldy adds up to 2 if I'm not mistaken
Bellchambers/Hille/Ryder have obviously played atleast 3-5 games together this year.

Holz

this is getting abit out of hand, how about we just leave it to, the answer will reveal itself next year.

pyronerd

Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on August 15, 2011, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
Obviously the roos don't agree with u nmf or otherwise mcintosh would be playing. He offers nothing that Goldy & Petrie don't do.
Maybe because he's coming off one of the worst injuries you can have in footy and they're trying to get him fully match fit before bringing him back into the highest level. But oh no, ofcourse that can't be it!

Obviously you have never watched a VFL match.
Please explain why?

Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
I don't understand how that makes him a worse ruck. What are you even arguing?

Based on talent and what we've seen, Hamish and Goldstein are clearly better than your guys.
I am saying Hmac has no place in your team.

Even if they are better (which I don't think they are) it is hardly 'clear.'
If anything I think Hmac will detract from the current ruck setup.

NMF Hmac will never reach the heights he did before his injury.
If playing 3 talls apparently works so well for Essendon, why wouldn't playing 2 work for NM?
Petrie and Goldy adds up to 2 if I'm not mistaken
Bellchambers/Hille/Ryder have obviously played atleast 3-5 games together this year.
and? I don't see your point

AFEV

Quote from: Holzman on August 15, 2011, 08:39:52 PM
this is getting abit out of hand, how about we just leave it to, the answer will reveal itself next year.
Later this year. This is all about Hmac being traded, is it not? :P
Which I honestly think he will and you guys would be lucky to get a first round pick so saying you want more is.... :-x

AFEV

Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:39:29 PM
Quote from: pyronerd on August 15, 2011, 08:38:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
Obviously the roos don't agree with u nmf or otherwise mcintosh would be playing. He offers nothing that Goldy & Petrie don't do.
Maybe because he's coming off one of the worst injuries you can have in footy and they're trying to get him fully match fit before bringing him back into the highest level. But oh no, ofcourse that can't be it!

Obviously you have never watched a VFL match.
Please explain why?

Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
I don't understand how that makes him a worse ruck. What are you even arguing?

Based on talent and what we've seen, Hamish and Goldstein are clearly better than your guys.
I am saying Hmac has no place in your team.

Even if they are better (which I don't think they are) it is hardly 'clear.'
If anything I think Hmac will detract from the current ruck setup.

NMF Hmac will never reach the heights he did before his injury.
If playing 3 talls apparently works so well for Essendon, why wouldn't playing 2 work for NM?
Petrie and Goldy adds up to 2 if I'm not mistaken
Bellchambers/Hille/Ryder have obviously played atleast 3-5 games together this year.
You said 'if it works so well' first of all should be past tense as that won't happen again and second of all did you watch those games? Didn't go well and triggered a terrible run of form for Hille and Ryder. Then Belly was dropped ::)

North Melbournes Finest

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Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:37:47 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
Obviously the roos don't agree with u nmf or otherwise mcintosh would be playing. He offers nothing that Goldy & Petrie don't do.
Maybe because he's coming off one of the worst injuries you can have in footy and they're trying to get him fully match fit before bringing him back into the highest level. But oh no, ofcourse that can't be it!

Obviously you have never watched a VFL match.
Please explain why?

Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
I don't understand how that makes him a worse ruck. What are you even arguing?

Based on talent and what we've seen, Hamish and Goldstein are clearly better than your guys.
I am saying Hmac has no place in your team.

Even if they are better (which I don't think they are) it is hardly 'clear.'
If anything I think Hmac will detract from the current ruck setup.

NMF Hmac will never reach the heights he did before his injury.
If playing 3 talls apparently works so well for Essendon, why wouldn't playing 2 work for NM?

He has been match fit for weeks. also sid never said 3 talls worked well...


Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:39:19 PM
2 forwards can and does work. I just don't think that North will want to move etrie out of his current role and the way Hmac is moving after his injury (essentially he is slow as all flower) he won't be able to do much else.

Perhaps you should accept that he isn't as good as you think he is.

Essendon doesn't play 3 tall forwards either and when we did it failed epically.
Oh but I guess because it suited my arguement I'd say he hasn't been match fit since the injury. But will another Essendon supporter saying it also change your opinion Boomz?

Obviously he's not fully fit when he was considered two years ago to be a very mobile ruckmen.

AFEV

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Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:39:19 PM
2 forwards can and does work. I just don't think that North will want to move etrie out of his current role and the way Hmac is moving after his injury (essentially he is slow as all flower) he won't be able to do much else.

Perhaps you should accept that he isn't as good as you think he is.

Essendon doesn't play 3 tall forwards either and when we did it failed epically.
Oh but I guess because it suited my arguement I'd say he hasn't been match fit since the injury. But will another Essendon supporter saying it also change your opinion Boomz?
That post didn't make sense...Anyway he is match fit he is just slow.

Boomz

Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:43:27 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:37:47 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
Obviously the roos don't agree with u nmf or otherwise mcintosh would be playing. He offers nothing that Goldy & Petrie don't do.
Maybe because he's coming off one of the worst injuries you can have in footy and they're trying to get him fully match fit before bringing him back into the highest level. But oh no, ofcourse that can't be it!

Obviously you have never watched a VFL match.
Please explain why?

Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
I don't understand how that makes him a worse ruck. What are you even arguing?

Based on talent and what we've seen, Hamish and Goldstein are clearly better than your guys.
I am saying Hmac has no place in your team.

Even if they are better (which I don't think they are) it is hardly 'clear.'
If anything I think Hmac will detract from the current ruck setup.

NMF Hmac will never reach the heights he did before his injury.
If playing 3 talls apparently works so well for Essendon, why wouldn't playing 2 work for NM?

He has been match fit for weeks. also sid never said 3 talls worked well...


Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:39:19 PM
2 forwards can and does work. I just don't think that North will want to move etrie out of his current role and the way Hmac is moving after his injury (essentially he is slow as all flower) he won't be able to do much else.

Perhaps you should accept that he isn't as good as you think he is.

Essendon doesn't play 3 tall forwards either and when we did it failed epically.
Oh but I guess because it suited my arguement I'd say he hasn't been match fit since the injury. But will another Essendon supporter saying it also change your opinion Boomz?

This just proves you don't have a clue in the world. He is slow because of the seriousness of the injury nothing to do with match fitness.

North Melbournes Finest

Anyway we're offtrack now, you guys said you'd prefer Essendons ruck brigade is better than Kangaroos, I'd refuted and presented main statistics for a ruckmen and showed Goldy's domination. All I got back was that I'm biased and I would shows statistics that are mainly attributed to ruckmen and I showed bias because Goldy is good in those areas...  :o

You believe we'd be lucky to get a first rounder for Mcintosh, I wouldn't be happy with that, that's cool each person to their own opinion. I'm likely to be bias because Hamish is my fav Kangaroos player. End of story.

Boomz

Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
Anyway we're offtrack now, you guys said you'd prefer Essendons ruck brigade is better than Kangaroos, I'd refuted and presented main statistics for a ruckmen and showed Goldy's domination. All I got back was that I'm biased and I would shows statistics that are mainly attributed to ruckmen and I showed bias because Goldy is good in those areas...  :o

You believe we'd be lucky to get a first rounder for Mcintosh, I wouldn't be happy with that, that's cool each person to their own opinion. I'm likely to be bias because Hamish is my fav Kangaroos player. End of story.

Statistics for a ruckman who doesn't share the ruck verses 2 that share it... obviously going to be skewed.

North Melbournes Finest

Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:45:37 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:43:27 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:37:47 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:36:12 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:33:02 PM
Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:32:06 PM
Obviously the roos don't agree with u nmf or otherwise mcintosh would be playing. He offers nothing that Goldy & Petrie don't do.
Maybe because he's coming off one of the worst injuries you can have in footy and they're trying to get him fully match fit before bringing him back into the highest level. But oh no, ofcourse that can't be it!

Obviously you have never watched a VFL match.
Please explain why?

Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:33:33 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:31:06 PM
I don't understand how that makes him a worse ruck. What are you even arguing?

Based on talent and what we've seen, Hamish and Goldstein are clearly better than your guys.
I am saying Hmac has no place in your team.

Even if they are better (which I don't think they are) it is hardly 'clear.'
If anything I think Hmac will detract from the current ruck setup.

NMF Hmac will never reach the heights he did before his injury.
If playing 3 talls apparently works so well for Essendon, why wouldn't playing 2 work for NM?

He has been match fit for weeks. also sid never said 3 talls worked well...


Quote from: Sid on August 15, 2011, 08:39:19 PM
2 forwards can and does work. I just don't think that North will want to move etrie out of his current role and the way Hmac is moving after his injury (essentially he is slow as all flower) he won't be able to do much else.

Perhaps you should accept that he isn't as good as you think he is.

Essendon doesn't play 3 tall forwards either and when we did it failed epically.
Oh but I guess because it suited my arguement I'd say he hasn't been match fit since the injury. But will another Essendon supporter saying it also change your opinion Boomz?

This just proves you don't have a clue in the world. He is slow because of the seriousness of the injury nothing to do with match fitness.
Alright, I'm a ruckmen coming off an injury to my achilles to which a tonne of people will attest to being a very hard injury to come back from, I've hardly ran across a 3-4 month period, I've come back from the injury to play 5 games, I'm fully fit :). You win!

pyronerd

Quote from: BOOMZ on August 15, 2011, 08:50:21 PM
Quote from: North Melbournes Finest on August 15, 2011, 08:48:31 PM
Anyway we're offtrack now, you guys said you'd prefer Essendons ruck brigade is better than Kangaroos, I'd refuted and presented main statistics for a ruckmen and showed Goldy's domination. All I got back was that I'm biased and I would shows statistics that are mainly attributed to ruckmen and I showed bias because Goldy is good in those areas...  :o

You believe we'd be lucky to get a first rounder for Mcintosh, I wouldn't be happy with that, that's cool each person to their own opinion. I'm likely to be bias because Hamish is my fav Kangaroos player. End of story.

Statistics for a ruckman who doesn't share the ruck verses 2 that share it... obviously going to be skewed.
and when we are comparing ruck combos rather than single ruckmen