Rigged?

[diddley]

Like I said, I only saw the 2nd half and Pavlich got about 2 possessions, including when he just dropped the ball for no apparent reason and gave Hawthorn a goal. Then I see he scored 85 and was like WTF?

They could easily rig it though.

seems you are getting sift in your old age meow. normally i would expect some elaborate insult about what was previously said.

[meow meow]

Duly noted. Next person to argue with me is going to cop it tenfold.

[diddley]

i shall be looking forward to reading it.

[hawk_88]

They could easily rig it though.

That is a fairly flippant statement to make without any qualification, especially since it brings to to question the entire reason we play the game.

Who is "they"? What would "they" do to rig it? Why would "they" rig it? Do you have any proof that "they" have rigged it before?

[diddley]

They could easily rig it though.

That is a fairly flippant statement to make without any qualification, especially since it brings to to question the entire reason we play the game.

Who is "they"? What would "they" do to rig it? Why would "they" rig it? Do you have any proof that "they" have rigged it before?

i think the easy assumption of 'they' would be the ones who actually make the stats and scores. champion data. who else could you think it could be?

[hawk_88]

Of the three candidates I would have had Champion Data as the least likely to rig the scores.

They have many other clients other than Virtual Sports/Herald Sun who all rely on accurate data. As a company who deals in data and data analysis, what reason would they have to rig the data? They would have everything to lose if the integrity of their data was ever doubted.

Herald Sun/Virtual Sports could have motives to rig the scores to engineer a certain type of contest that maintains maximum interest from players (money is made through ads so the more users or view SC stuff more frequently means more money) but wouldn't have the means given the the scores are linked to Champion Data's player ranking system. It would become immediately obvious if they had done so.

[js19]

Champion Data are as transparent as the Coke recipe and KFC's herbs and spices. Rumour has it Kim Jong Il uses CD to track the marching performance of his troops... ::)

I love people on angry pills...

[hawk_88]

Champion Data are as transparent as the Coke recipe and KFC's herbs and spices. Rumour has it Kim Jong Il uses CD to track the marching performance of his troops... ::)

I love people on angry pills...

The irony being that both Cokes and the famous 11 herbs and spices are widely available. Follow the link to have the mystery solved: http://i.imgur.com/PgI71.png

But your point is taken. They don't breed any good will by hiding the system. However, that isn't an issue for them. I am sure VS/HS would love that to be public as it would be to SC's advantage. However, CD make money by selling the data that the player ranking system produces. Anyone could do it if the system was in the public domain.

[BlackMamba]

I don't think it's rigged but SC scores obviously require a degree of human judgement and some people see things differently to others.

[cortez]

They have one person locked in a room watching the game he isn't aloud to move. He watches it very closely. Then after the game is finished he checks off every player and divides the 3300 points between all 44 players. That is why it takes a few minutes for the scores to go through to the website, because he has to add them up and send them off. And don't ask about the toilet breaks because I've been told the seat they are sitting on is a toilet. Under very strict instructions not to miss a second.

P.s. Apparently there favourite players are Matthew pavlich and Chris Judd.

this is fact people don't bother trying to prove me wrong

[ossie85]

Yes it is rigged. The better players get higher scores.... because they are better. It is rigged for importance, rigged to 3300.... So by definition it is rigged.

..... but that's what makes it great.

Unlike DT, which is just raw stats.

[hawk_88]

Yes it is rigged. The better players get higher scores.... because they are better. It is rigged for importance, rigged to 3300.... So by definition it is rigged.

..... but that's what makes it great.

Unlike DT, which is just raw stats.

Rigged isn't the right word. Rigged implies artificial fraudulent interference, a pre-determined outcome which is far from the truth.

It is statistically processed. The system is such that if you put in the same raw stats (from the same source as the DT stats) you get the same output.

[Torress]

some nice comments hawk88! rigged is the wrong word. there is money on the line here, i highly doubt they would 'rig' it!! why would ''they'' open the door for legal impications??  anyhow it is a 'free'game to play unlike most fantasy games out there! there is also loose ball gets, hard ball gets, handball recieves, contested marks, assists - the list goes on!! 

[all about winning]

the 3300 rule blows.. i dont see the need..
players shouldnt get scored because of thier influence..
only get scored from your stats ..

[hawk_88]

the 3300 rule blows.. i dont see the need..
players shouldnt get scored because of thier influence..
only get scored from your stats ..

Then play DT.

SC is still about stats, there isn't a human element. They are just weighted and normalised in a way that allows comparison between games.

Two good examples of the value of this:

You score 3 goals in a game when only 15 goals are scored between both teams most people would say that is a better performance than if someone scores 3 goals when there is 30 goals scored between both sides.

8 marks and a 75% kicking efficiency would be considered by most a more impressive performance in torrential rain than in a nice sunny 22 degree afternoon.