higgins or darling to chappy

Started by KBcokebotl, May 25, 2011, 09:42:26 PM

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option A or B

tapscott + higgins to lynch + chapman
16 (57.1%)
harris + darling to I smith + chapman
12 (42.9%)

Total Members Voted: 2

wcarey

Quote from: Holzman on May 26, 2011, 12:07:47 AM
i cant tell if these guys are intentionally making you pick the wrong decision or they are just clueless. You are doing 2 trades to get out a premium and bring one in. Higgins has averaged 100 prior to being subbed of for stitches. His injury last week has nothing to do with his injury that kept him out for a few weeks, so why keep him all this time and than get rid of him when he gets subbed of for what is probably only a 1 game thing.  It is very likely that both guys will average around the same, maybee chappy 5-10 more but thats not worth 2 trades. Plus chappy isn't exactly a risk free player.

A much smarter move would be the tappy/ darling downgrade and upgrade Harris to a premium, that way you have 1 extra premium instead of the same.

Im sorry to be blunt but im sick of people dissing higgins.


i think he's a great player but he is just so injury prone. i haven't had him this year but i can't handle the uncertainty of whether or not he'll get injured again. just my opinion, he can do what he wants

someguy

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Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:18:09 AM
i think he's a great player but he is just so injury prone. i haven't had him this year but i can't handle the uncertainty of whether or not he'll get injured again. just my opinion, he can do what he wants

so if he gets injured again you trade him out then! lol not now when he's back healthy!!!

Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:18:09 AMi can't handle the uncertainty of whether or not he'll get injured again

maybe you'd be better off not playing DT then.

wcarey

Quote from: someguy on May 26, 2011, 12:19:29 AM
Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:18:09 AM
i think he's a great player but he is just so injury prone. i haven't had him this year but i can't handle the uncertainty of whether or not he'll get injured again. just my opinion, he can do what he wants

so if he gets injured again you trade him out then! lol not now when he's back healthy!!!

Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:18:09 AMi can't handle the uncertainty of whether or not he'll get injured again

maybe you'd be better off not playing DT then.


maybe you'd be better off not crying when someone doesnt agree with your opinion. not everyone wants to bend higgins over like yourself.


Holz

Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:24:17 AM
Quote from: someguy on May 26, 2011, 12:19:29 AM
Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:18:09 AM
i think he's a great player but he is just so injury prone. i haven't had him this year but i can't handle the uncertainty of whether or not he'll get injured again. just my opinion, he can do what he wants

so if he gets injured again you trade him out then! lol not now when he's back healthy!!!

Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:18:09 AMi can't handle the uncertainty of whether or not he'll get injured again

maybe you'd be better off not playing DT then.


maybe you'd be better off not crying when someone doesnt agree with your opinion. not everyone wants to bend higgins over like yourself.

the exact smae thing can be said about chappy do you have him?

someguy

Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:24:17 AM
maybe you'd be better off not crying when someone doesnt agree with your opinion. not everyone wants to bend higgins over like yourself.

lol bitterman. I apologise if I came off a bit rude, just seemed like a prett soft excuse as to why you were getting rid of Higgins. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, but maybe give a better reason as to why you're getting rid of Higgins?

wcarey

Quote from: Holzman on May 26, 2011, 12:28:18 AM
Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:24:17 AM
Quote from: someguy on May 26, 2011, 12:19:29 AM
Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:18:09 AM
i think he's a great player but he is just so injury prone. i haven't had him this year but i can't handle the uncertainty of whether or not he'll get injured again. just my opinion, he can do what he wants

so if he gets injured again you trade him out then! lol not now when he's back healthy!!!

Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:18:09 AMi can't handle the uncertainty of whether or not he'll get injured again

maybe you'd be better off not playing DT then.


maybe you'd be better off not crying when someone doesnt agree with your opinion. not everyone wants to bend higgins over like yourself.

the exact smae thing can be said about chappy do you have him?


yeh got chappy for the first time this year. got through most of last year though and is more worth the risk IMO because he score big and consistently. i do admit he has been injury prone in the past tho

wcarey

Quote from: someguy on May 26, 2011, 12:30:25 AM
Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:24:17 AM
maybe you'd be better off not crying when someone doesnt agree with your opinion. not everyone wants to bend higgins over like yourself.

lol bitterman. I apologise if I came off a bit rude, just seemed like a prett soft excuse as to why you were getting rid of Higgins. I have no problem with you disagreeing with me, but maybe give a better reason as to why you're getting rid of Higgins?

I'm not getting rid of higgins because i never had him. if you lookk at my earlier posts you'll see that i mentioned i havent had him in my team this year. i was just responding to the guy that started this thread

someguy

Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:35:35 AM
I'm not getting rid of higgins because i never had him. if you lookk at my earlier posts you'll see that i mentioned i havent had him in my team this year. i was just responding to the guy that started this thread

My mistake. Ok so why should KBcokebotl get rid of Higgins?

Stocutz

Chappy is a dt gun, players who consistently ave over 100 that aren't in the midfield don't grow on trees. Of course his past injuries should be factored in.

Higgins has the making to be similiar to chappy dt wise. However like chappy he needs more midfield time. If he can play high half fwd he will be handy for those that have him.

Last weeks game I'd take zero notice for. Persist for at least 1-2 more weeks.

Darling to chappy great move

wcarey

Quote from: someguy on May 26, 2011, 12:38:12 AM
Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:35:35 AM
I'm not getting rid of higgins because i never had him. if you lookk at my earlier posts you'll see that i mentioned i havent had him in my team this year. i was just responding to the guy that started this thread

My mistake. Ok so why should KBcokebotl get rid of Higgins?

in my opinion i think there are more injuries to come based on his past. his hamstrings are what concern me the most, similar to cyril. ive had a no hamstring injury prone policy this year(maybe not chappy but he is a genius). that's why ive given mitchell a miss aswell despite temptation a few weeks ago.

basically what im saying is that if guys like higgins/cyril are so injury prone now it is probably going to continue. i understand that he and others have invested alot of time in higgins but if I were in his situation i would trade him. you have to make a call at some stage. but who knows maybe he'll aVERAGe 100 for the rest of the year and hanging onto him will be the best decision he ever made.

Ziplock

honestly, I think everyone has a perfect right to diss higgins for being a huge softcock. That being said, if he's named I wouldn't consider dropping him.

If he fails on me again though, I'm going to be so pissed, my DT season blog will be filled with higgins rage.

CFC 1979

thinking the same way atm. higgins to chappy

not sure though. has potential to bite me in the a  s  s

chaosAD

Quote from: someguy on May 26, 2011, 12:03:26 AM
I'm keeping Higgins (assuming he's named). Honestly I think the majority of people are basing their decision on emotion rather than logic. I've had Higgins all year and like most Higgins owners I have been incrediably frustrated by the time he's missed and his performance last week. BUT when you consider all the factors it may not be so wise to trade him out:


  • It was his first game back - very rarely will players play well on their return from injury.
  • His team got smashed by an in form Eagles team, who have an extremely effective forward press this season. This press limits the amount of ball going into the opposition forwardline, which was where higgins was playing, thus limiting his opportunities and affecting his score. The Eagles press has also greatly affected dream team scores - opposition team have totaled 20 tons against them all year, an average of 2.5 tons per game. To put that in perspective Collingwood has had 25 tons scored against them (Tip to Fenno). Does this excuse Higgins' poor score? No, but it should be considered.
  • He was playing on Adam Selwood who used to be the no.1 tagger at the Eagles (seems Scott Selwood has picked that up). Selwood was playing a defensive role on Higgins (possibly even tagging him)
  • He's a premium, who is back playing - one of the golden rules is to never trade out a premium!! (barring long term injuries or a significant and prolonged drop in form (broughton springs to mind). If you've held higgins when he was out, why would you trade him now when he's back playing?

It's a personal choice but I for one am keeping him. Should he pump out another shocker, he'll get the boot.
+1

someguy

Quote from: wcarey on May 26, 2011, 12:59:13 AM
in my opinion i think there are more injuries to come based on his past. his hamstrings are what concern me the most, similar to cyril. ive had a no hamstring injury prone policy this year(maybe not chappy but he is a genius). that's why ive given mitchell a miss aswell despite temptation a few weeks ago.

basically what im saying is that if guys like higgins/cyril are so injury prone now it is probably going to continue. i understand that he and others have invested alot of time in higgins but if I were in his situation i would trade him. you have to make a call at some stage. but who knows maybe he'll aVERAGe 100 for the rest of the year and hanging onto him will be the best decision he ever made.

Fair point, however Higgins is currently not injured. You do not "have to make a call at some stage" when you are talking about a premium player who is not injured and playing! He had one bad game! If he gets injured again or he plays a few more shockers, than you can make a call then. It just baffles me that people are considering trading out a premium who is playing, especially after holding him when he was injured!

Ziplock

the issue is, if he has another couple of shockers, then he won't be very worthwhile trading out.