Ask Ziplock Week

Started by Ziplock, May 23, 2011, 10:07:04 AM

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Bak2Form

Hi Zip  :)

if im confident i can win my 1st final should i be worried about how many geelong players i have? currently have enright,selwood,stevie J, will also have chapy in my team this week.

Coming 4th with 18 trades and beenhighest scorer in my league last few weeks

Ziplock

That is pretty confident, are you also coming first on overall?

Honestly, that's as much as I would be looking at, anymore is just tempting fate. With geelongs matchup against adelaide rd 21 though, chappy, stevie J and selwood should all absolutely dominate, they alone should get you over the line. If they don't though, you're going to get screwed.

Those are  the only geelong players I would consider having in my team, even so, although I'm confident I should win my first final personally, I have no intention of getting more than two geelong (already have enright, and am getting chappy). You never know what may go wrong, grimes, curnow anyone?

That being said, you're already pretty much all out on geelong, and if it comes down to it, a decent rookie should be able to cover enright and stevie J, and you can always sideways selwood + chappy.

Even so... 4.... it's like asking the DT gods to strike you down in rd 21.

Bak2Form

Quote from: Ziplock on May 25, 2011, 01:05:15 PM
That is pretty confident, are you also coming first on overall?

Honestly, that's as much as I would be looking at, anymore is just tempting fate. With geelongs matchup against adelaide rd 21 though, chappy, stevie J and selwood should all absolutely dominate, they alone should get you over the line. If they don't though, you're going to get screwed.

Those are  the only geelong players I would consider having in my team, even so, although I'm confident I should win my first final personally, I have no intention of getting more than two geelong (already have enright, and am getting chappy). You never know what may go wrong, grimes, curnow anyone?

That being said, you're already pretty much all out on geelong, and if it comes down to it, a decent rookie should be able to cover enright and stevie J, and you can always sideways selwood + chappy.

Even so... 4.... it's like asking the DT gods to strike you down in rd 21.


lol not coming first overall, i got more trades left than the 3 people in front of me and scoring the same as them most weeks. i think chapman to kraks and next week conca - pendles will pretty much set my team up for a good run home. Thanks for your oppion, i havent put chappy in yet but he does seem good value

Ziplock

yeah, chappy is excellent value, and pendles should also be an inclusion some time too- can't fault you for getting in the best fwd and a top 4 mid can I :P

The number of cats though... make or break, I just hope for your sake it's make :)

Bak2Form

me too :) hopefully scott doesnt rest so many players like bomber thompson did. or if he does rest bartel and all the other geelong players i dont have

dale93

Hey zip just quickly which 2 midfielders would you start between Swallow, Harris, Conca and Libba?

joshas182

Hey Zip,

With $59k and 18trades left:

B: Gibbs,Goddard,Lids,Shaw,Enright,Duigan,Lower (Heppell,Otten,Puopolo)
M: Swan,Thomas,Boyd,Goodes,Libba,Swallow (Krakouer,Harris,Jacobs)
R: Cox,Ryder (Z.Smith,McCauley)
F:Pavlich,Franklin,B.Harvey,Fyfe,NRoo,O'Keefe,Darling (Tapscott,Prestia,C.Richo)

I eventually want to pickup Adcock in the backs, S.Thompson in mids and Sylvia in forwards...I also have a good mind to drop Ryder as I've cursed him the last 3 weeks and now he has a bye...But for now will be covering him with Z.Smith. Sandi was my best trade option in the rucks but is now injured....Rucks are last on my mind.

Are these good options to trade to, and in what order would you do it? I know I need to get Tapscott out as he's injured (do we know for how long). I'm thinking of holding off this week as would like my cash cows to make a little bit more $$ before trading...plus Tapscott won't be changing in price and want to hang off to see what Mzungu and M.Evans do in their 2nd week before their bubble.
I obviously was also thinking of Jelwood, but the bye in the finals still concerns me with Geelong players - but it is still a long way away (am currently 3rd in league and just lost to 2nd team by 5 points - Bloody Patty Ryder!)
Also thinking Pendles but have too many Pies already...
Any help would be great Zip!

Ziplock

Quote from: dale93 on May 25, 2011, 01:48:13 PM
Hey zip just quickly which 2 midfielders would you start between Swallow, Harris, Conca and Libba?

I don't have much to do, so I think I'll break this down statistically, and show you my logic
Overall average:
1Libba- 83
2Swallow - 81.3
3Harris- 76.8
4 Conca - 69
Last 4 round average
1. 84.75
2.Swallow - 83.75
3 Liberatore - 79.25
4 Harris - 75.5
Teams playing this round
1 Swallow- Geelong ranked 1
2 Harris -Geelong ranked 1
3 Conca- Port Adelaide ranked  17
4 Liberatore- Hawthorn Ranked 3

So, you really should be fielding
1. Conca- no brainer, poor overall average (due to sub affected scores from memory), but has the best form by far atm, and is playing the worst team in the competition.
2. A bit more difficult to call. Hawthorn and Geelong are both very good teams, we can discount Harris from this equation on the basis he has the lowest 4 game average, overall average and is returning from injury. So, it becomes out of liberatore and swallow. Both play in the mids, and statistically speaking, the points scored against geelong and hawthorns mids are very close, only differing by slightly over 1% (mids on average score only about 1 points more against hawthorn than geelong), so I would call that essentially negligible. Swallow has a higher 4 game average, while libba has a higher overall average, Swallow just came off being rested while Libba's now played a couple of games in a row.

That one's a bloody lineball.

I'm going to have to go Libba, purely on the basis that the margin for the GC geelong game is set at about 40 points to geelong, and swallows scores are generally higher when his side is being competitive, or winning, whilst liberatore doesn't have such a pattern.

I'm going to say field conca, for certain, then the stats would indicate liberatore.

My gut feeling would be Swallow, as IMO, geelong will focus too much trying to shut down ablett, so Swallow should be allowed a little more freedom, that being said, I wouldn't want to bet on a team playing geelong.

Ziplock

Quote from: joshas182 on May 25, 2011, 02:41:56 PM
Hey Zip,

With $59k and 18trades left:

B: Gibbs,Goddard,Lids,Shaw,Enright,Duigan,Lower (Heppell,Otten,Puopolo)
M: Swan,Thomas,Boyd,Goodes,Libba,Swallow (Krakouer,Harris,Jacobs)
R: Cox,Ryder (Z.Smith,McCauley)
F:Pavlich,Franklin,B.Harvey,Fyfe,NRoo,O'Keefe,Darling (Tapscott,Prestia,C.Richo)

I eventually want to pickup Adcock in the backs, S.Thompson in mids and Sylvia in forwards...I also have a good mind to drop Ryder as I've cursed him the last 3 weeks and now he has a bye...But for now will be covering him with Z.Smith. Sandi was my best trade option in the rucks but is now injured....Rucks are last on my mind.

Are these good options to trade to, and in what order would you do it? I know I need to get Tapscott out as he's injured (do we know for how long). I'm thinking of holding off this week as would like my cash cows to make a little bit more $$ before trading...plus Tapscott won't be changing in price and want to hang off to see what Mzungu and M.Evans do in their 2nd week before their bubble.
I obviously was also thinking of Jelwood, but the bye in the finals still concerns me with Geelong players - but it is still a long way away (am currently 3rd in league and just lost to 2nd team by 5 points - Bloody Patty Ryder!)
Also thinking Pendles but have too many Pies already...
Any help would be great Zip!
Tapscotts out for 3, but should go soon
Thompson, Adcock, Sylvia in that order, based mostly on prices and current breakevens.

IMO, Chapman is a more must have players than Jelwood, but considering you have goodes in the mids and plan on sylvia, there's not really room for him. I think even with the finals bye you can easily carry just selwood and enright. Ryder should go, but you've lost so much on him it's not really imperitive. SHould you need to do it quickly for a fix, go to goldstein (who's averaging 100) as he's the only ruck scoring even within eyesight of cox + sandi.

Those are good trades, and I'd be doing them now. I would try to get in Thompson this week and chappy next week before they cop substantial price rises, and that means trading tapscott out now to probably mzungu or lynch, mzungu's JS is good enough that you can trade him in without being on the bubble if need be.

And pendles is fine if you have an easy matchup during pies second bye :)

joshas182

Thanks Zip...what do you think about M.Evans for a rookie MID?
Also, if I was looking at trade-waiting until next week, is GAJ too much of a risk to pickup instead of S.Thompson? Maybe waiting the week to see how he goes against Geelong would be a good move? Not going to have too much trouble if S.Thommo's price rises as so will Harris or Krakouer (or whoever I trade for him) price rise...

Chelskiman

I'm not Zip, but Evans needs to be looked at for another week.  His ton could have been a fluke and he could rip out a 40-50 next week which would be a much better reflection of his rock bottom price.

joshas182

Quote from: Chelskiman on May 25, 2011, 03:10:16 PM
I'm not Zip, but Evans needs to be looked at for another week.  His ton could have been a fluke and he could rip out a 40-50 next week which would be a much better reflection of his rock bottom price.

Oh was definately going to wait a week and bank more on Mzungu a week early if need be...but had anyone heard of him before this week? I guess with the Dee's wearing a few injuries now his JS should be fairly secure though?

Ziplock

Quote from: Chelskiman on May 25, 2011, 03:10:16 PM
I'm not Zip, but Evans needs to be looked at for another week.  His ton could have been a fluke and he could rip out a 40-50 next week which would be a much better reflection of his rock bottom price.
pretty much^ he's just a random, you don't want to jump on after his first game to have him score 30 and not play a third.

Ziplock

Quote from: joshas182 on May 25, 2011, 03:08:34 PM
Thanks Zip...what do you think about M.Evans for a rookie MID?
Also, if I was looking at trade-waiting until next week, is GAJ too much of a risk to pickup instead of S.Thompson? Maybe waiting the week to see how he goes against Geelong would be a good move? Not going to have too much trouble if S.Thommo's price rises as so will Harris or Krakouer (or whoever I trade for him) price rise...

Thompson's thrashing it, he's looking like a safe midfield pick this year. This week, IMO it's between him and gazza. That being said, Thompson's proved himself week in and out this year, while Gazza's proven himself year in and out, but has only had one decent game this season. Honestly, I'd be jumping on  thompson now, unless you'll have huge issues with the multibye, and waiting on ablett at least one week.

Andrew

How's this for a plan:

Toy -> Jacobs
Tapscott -> Chapman

Bringing in Evans next week.

Or should I do:

Toy -> Jacobs
Tapscott -> Lynch

Grabbing Chapman next week.

I've only got 13 trades so also thinking about holding Tapscott and maybe selling Darling for Chapman next week. Tapscott only listed as a 3 week injury and I can easily hold him in my forward line as a permanent bench keeper with Petrie coming back into forwards once Sandi is back.