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Started by MTTY, May 02, 2011, 08:47:18 PM

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Jroo

Collingwood
Alex Fasolo - 75
Jordan Russell - 77
Brent Macaffer - 75
Alan Didak - 76
Nick Maxwell - 80
Tyson Goldsack - 77
Andrew J. Krakouer - 76
Heritier O'Brien - 80
Martin Clarke - 76
Scott Pendlebury - 99
Jarryd Blair - 81
Luke Ball - 88
Dale Thomas - 89
Clinton Young - 79
Jarrod Witts - 69
Nathan J. Brown - 78
Dayne Beams - 96
Darren Jolly - 82
Jamie Elliott - 75
Ben Reid - 82
Quinten Lynch - 79
Steele Sidebottom - 87
Lachlan Keeffe - 75
Josh Thomas - 68
Ben Hudson - 75
Ben L. Johnson - 76
Ben Kennedy - 68
Ben Sinclair - 73
Tim Broomhead - 66
Jackson Ramsay - 60
Travis Cloke - 89
Jackson Paine - 68
Alan Toovey - 77
Brodie Grundy - 69
Dane Swan - 99
Heath Shaw - 84
Paul Seedsman - 70

Rookies
Sam Dwyer - 70
Corey Gault - 62
Jack Frost - 67
Marley Williams - 69
Ben Richmond - 58
Kyle Martin - 69
Peter Yagmoor - 64
Adam Oxley - 62
Michael Hartley - 56
Caolan Mooney - 67

Jroo

Hawthorn
Jarryd Roughead - 86
Jordan Lewis - 85
Matt Suckling - 83
Sam Mitchell - 94
Josh Gibson - 86
Michael Osborne - 75
Xavier Ellis - 75
Shaun Burgoyne - 83
Bradley Hill - 71
Brendan Whitecross - 78
Brad Sewell - 84
Kyle Cheney - 70
Grant Birchall - 85
Luke Hodge - 85 (but make him injury prone)
Isaac Smith - 78
Brian Lake - 84
Brent Guerra - 82
Jack Gunston - 78
David Hale - 80
Shane Savage - 75
Luke Breust - 82
Lance Franklin - 97
Ben Stratton - 76
Ryan Schoenmakers - 78
Liam Shiels - 78
Matt Spangher - 74
Paul Puopolo - 76
Luke Lowden - 67
Angus Litherland - 65
Jonathan Simpkin - 70
Cyril Rioli - 86
Jordan Kelly - 63
Sam Grimley - 64
Alex Woodward - 65
Jed Anderson - 69
Mitch Hallahan - 62
Max Bailey - 77
Tim O'Brien - 67
Taylor Duryea - 64
Kaiden Brand - 59

Rookies
Will Langford - 61
Amos Frank - 60
Andrew Boseley - 62
Derick Wanganeen - 65
Jonathon Ceglar - 65

Jroo

Gold Coast
Jaeger O'Meara - 74
Zac Smith - 77
Jared Brennan - 77
Maverick Weller - 73
Jarrod Harbrow - 81
Alex Sexton - 65
Karmichael Hunt - 75
Luke Russell - 73
Gary Ablett - 100
Dion Prestia - 76
Harley Bennell - 84
Sam Day - 75
Jacob Gillbee - 68
Matthew Warnock - 77
Daniel Gorringe - 72
Rory Thompson - 75
Steven May - 75
Trent McKenzie - 76
Tom Lynch - 74
Henry Schade - 64
Jeremy Taylor - 68
Tom Nicholls - 67
Charlie Dixon - 76
David Swallow - 78
Danny Stanley - 80
Matthew Shaw - 71
Clay Cameron - 65
Thomas Murphy - 76
Campbell Brown - 76
Jackson Allen - 69
Brandon Matera - 75
Aaron Hall - 72
Jack Hutchins - 69
Michael Rischitelli - 76
Greg Broughton - 79
Jesse Lonergan - 72
Joel Wilkinson - 70
Timmy Sumner - 68
Kyal Horsley - 74
Liam Patrick - 73
Nathan Bock - 82
Seb Tape - 70

Rookies
Andrew Boston - 63
Leigh Osborne - 65
Josh Hall - 63

Jroo

Port Adelaide
Travis Boak - 85
Cameron Hitchcock - 70
Campbell Heath - 74
Brent Renouf - 75
Matthew Broadbent - 79
Angus Monfries - 80
Brad Ebert - 85
Hamish Hartlett - 85
Robbie Gray - 80
John Butcher - 76
Jackson Trengove - 79
Cameron O'Shea - 74
Paul Stewart - 76
Lewis Stevenson - 74
Oliver Wines - 75
Tom Clurey - 68
Kane Cornes - 84
Nick Salter - 69
Chad Wingard - 75
Matt Thomas - 75
Mason Shaw - 67
Matthew Lobbe - 76
Nathan Blee - 69
Domenic Cassisi - 80
Andrew Moore - 70
Alipate Carlile - 78
Jay Schulz - 84
Jasper Pittard - 76
Sam Colquhoun - 69
Jake Neade - 70
Brett Ebert - 73
Jarrad Redden - 73
Jack Hombsch - 72
Ben Newton - 67
Justin Westhoff - 78
Aaron Young - 68
Brendon Ah Chee - 67
Thomas Jonas - 65
Daniel Stewart - 74
Tom Logan - 75

Rookies
Darren Pfeiffer - 70
Kane Mitchell - 73
Danny Butcher - 64
Justin Hoskin - 65

Jroo

St.Kilda
Tom Hickey - 75
Arryn Siposs - 75
Jack Steven - 82
Clinton Jones - 78
Ben McEvoy - 84
Sebastian Ross - 67
Lenny Hayes - 89
Trent Dennis-Lane - 74
Thomas Lee - 70
Daniel Markworth - 67
Leigh Montagna - 83
Nick Riewoldt - 86
Adam Schneider - 76
Jarryn Geary - 77
Tom Ledger - 69
Jack Newnes - 71
Dylan Roberton - 73
Spencer White - 67
Sam Gilbert - 77
David Armitage - 79
Ahmed Saad - 77
Farren Ray - 76
Justin Koschitzke - 75
Sean Dempster - 81
Sam Fisher - 80
Nick Dal Santo - 85
Jason Blake - 77
Rhys Stanley - 76
Jimmy Webster - 64
Brodie Murdoch - 64
Tom Simpkin - 72
Terry Milera - 72
James Gwilt - 77
Nathan Wright - 68
Josh Saunders - 61
Jay Lever - 60
Beau Maister - 76
Sam Dunell - 69
Lewis Pierce - 61
Stephen Milne - 79

Rookies
Cameron Shenton - 60
Jordan Staley - 58
Darren Minchington - 60
Tom Curren - 68
Jackson Ferguson - 61

Jroo

Sydney
Tim Membrey - 68
Rhyce Shaw - 79
Jarrad McVeigh - 86
Daniel Hannebery - 84
Ryan O'Keefe - 88
Tom Mitchell - 69
Harry Cunningham - 69
Kurt Tippett - 84
Nick Malceski - 78
Mitch Morton - 75
Jed Lamb - 67
Josh Kennedy - 96
Andrejs Everitt - 75
Craig Bird - 76
Kieren Jack - 92
Gary Rohan - 74
Tommy Walsh - 72
Jesse White - 73
Tony Armstrong - 75
Sam Reid - 79
Ben McGlynn - 78
Dean Towers - 70
Jordan Lockyer - 65
Jude Bolton - 83
Ted Richards - 89
Luke Parker - 78
Matthew Dick - 64
Martin Mattner - 77
Lewis Roberts-Thomson - 77
Harrison Marsh - 62
Lewis Jetta - 83
Alex Johnson - 77
Alex Brown - 65
Adam Goodes - 88
Mike Pyke - 77
Heath Grundy - 84
Nick Smith - 82
Shane Mumford - 84

Rookies
Daniel Robinson - 60
Brandon Jack - 64
Sam Naismith - 57
Xavier Richards - 63
Dane Rampe - 69
Jake Lloyd - 68
Shane Biggs - 64

Jroo

Okay anymore to do? I'm fine to do any more if you want me to?

Sapientia

Thanks a bunch, mate. Fantastic effort and it'll help me a ton.

Any list from any club helps in some way in reducing the amount of personal bias, but I don't want you to waste your time. Awesome stuff man, seriously. Love you right now.

Sapientia.

Sapientia

Below is where I'm at - feel free to ask questions, comment on things that just don't look right or suggest feedback.


This is currently where I'm at. The scores don't take into account structure, for the record - so a team like the dogs will have a lot of mids included in their rating but when it's time to name a team it'll fall as a higher rated mid would fall out for a KPF etc.

Overall: Average rating of the best 22 players
Top End: Average rating of the best 7 players
Mid Range: Average rating of the 8-15th players (8 players)
Low Range: Average rating of the 16-24th players (9 players)
Depth: Average rating of the 25-34th players (10 players)

Things that don't look right
- Port & North Melbourne being so low (OVR)
- Western Bulldogs being so high (OVR)
- To a lesser extent, Fremantle and Sydney being low (OVR)
- To a lesser extent, West Coast, Geelong and Richmond being so high (OVR)
- Collingwood and Carlton being so high on mid range. Lots of stars but the next batch aren't gun (MR)
- Western Bulldogs being high for mid range. They're carried by a good top echelon and alright reserves but the middle grade is distinctly average (MR)
- North being so low for mid range. I think they're 8-15th best are actually relatively good (MR)
- Sydney's low range. Their 22 has such depth, I'd probably have them top 3-4 for this, minimum (LR)
- Carlton's depth. This is a big one. Probably a result of Carlton being the first team I rated (DEPTH)
- Sydney's depth. It's better than that (DEPTH)
- The general overalls. They're 0.42 out from where I want them to be (mean of 80). Will be difficult trying to increase some teams to fix all the above yet decreasing others enough to make the global score go down (GEN)


OVERALL
1 Collingwood 82.91 90.86 81.75 75.67 70.8
2 West Coast 82.4 88.71 82.88 75 70.3
3 Hawthorn 82.13 89.71 81.88 74.67 68.3
4 Geelong 81.63 89.43 80.25 74.78 67.6
5 Carlton 81.18 88.57 81.13 72.89 63.3
6 Richmond 81.09 89 80.5 73.22 68.2
7 Sydney 80.95 88.14 80.38 73.89 68.1
8 Essendon 80.81 87.29 79.5 75.33 67.9
9 Western Bulldog 80.81 87.57 80 74.67 70.7
10 Adelaide 80.72 89.86 79.25 73 69.2
11 Fremantle 80.59 87.58 79.13 74.78 69.2
12 Brisbane 80 87.43 79.75 72.33 68.5
13 Gold Coast 79.32 85.14 78.5 74.11 71.7
14 St. Kilda 79.18 85.86 78 73.33 69.3
15 North Melbourne 78.86 86.71 76 74 69.3
16 Port Adelaide 78.77 85.29 78.13 72.56 69.6
17 Melbourne 78.27 84.29 77 73.33 70.8
18 GWS 78.04 83.43 76.75 73.78 70.4

TOP END
1 Collingwood 82.91 90.86 81.75 75.67 70.8
2 Adelaide 80.72 89.86 79.25 73 69.2
3 Hawthorn 82.13 89.71 81.88 74.67 68.3
4 Geelong 81.63 89.43 80.25 74.78 67.6
5 Richmond 81.09 89 80.5 73.22 68.2
6 West Coast 82.4 88.71 82.88 75 70.3
7 Carlton 81.18 88.57 81.13 72.89 63.3
8 Sydney 80.95 88.14 80.38 73.89 68.1
9 Fremantle 80.59 87.58 79.13 74.78 69.2
10 Western Bulldog 80.81 87.57 80 74.67 70.7
11 Brisbane 80 87.43 79.75 72.33 68.5
12 Essendon 80.81 87.29 79.5 75.33 67.9
13 North Melbourne 78.86 86.71 76 74 69.3
14 St. Kilda 79.18 85.86 78 73.33 69.3
15 Port Adelaide 78.77 85.29 78.13 72.56 69.6
16 Gold Coast 79.32 85.14 78.5 74.11 71.7
17 Melbourne 78.27 84.29 77 73.33 70.8
18 GWS 78.04 83.43 76.75 73.78 70.4

MID RANGE
1 West Coast 82.4 88.71 82.88 75 70.3
2 Hawthorn 82.13 89.71 81.88 74.67 68.3
3 Collingwood 82.91 90.86 81.75 75.67 70.8
4 Carlton 81.18 88.57 81.13 72.89 63.3
5 Richmond 81.09 89 80.5 73.22 68.2
6 Sydney 80.95 88.14 80.38 73.89 68.1
7 Geelong 81.63 89.43 80.25 74.78 67.6
8 Western Bulldog 80.81 87.57 80 74.67 70.7
9 Brisbane 80 87.43 79.75 72.33 68.5
10 Essendon 80.81 87.29 79.5 75.33 67.9
11 Adelaide 80.72 89.86 79.25 73 69.2
12 Fremantle 80.59 87.58 79.13 74.78 69.2
13 Gold Coast 79.32 85.14 78.5 74.11 71.7
14 Port Adelaide 78.77 85.29 78.13 72.56 69.6
15 St. Kilda 79.18 85.86 78 73.33 69.3
16 Melbourne 78.27 84.29 77 73.33 70.8
17 GWS 78.04 83.43 76.75 73.78 70.4
18 North Melbourne 78.86 86.71 76 74 69.3

LOW RANGE
1 Collingwood 82.91 90.86 81.75 75.67 70.8
2 Essendon 80.81 87.29 79.5 75.33 67.9
3 West Coast 82.4 88.71 82.88 75 70.3
4 Geelong 81.63 89.43 80.25 74.78 67.6
5 Fremantle 80.59 87.58 79.13 74.78 69.2
6 Western Bulldog 80.81 87.57 80 74.67 70.7
7 Hawthorn 82.13 89.71 81.88 74.67 68.3
8 Gold Coast 79.32 85.14 78.5 74.11 71.7
9 North Melbourne 78.86 86.71 76 74 69.3
10 Sydney 80.95 88.14 80.38 73.89 68.1
11 GWS 78.04 83.43 76.75 73.78 70.4
12 Melbourne 78.27 84.29 77 73.33 70.8
13 St. Kilda 79.18 85.86 78 73.33 69.3
14 Richmond 81.09 89 80.5 73.22 68.2
15 Adelaide 80.72 89.86 79.25 73 69.2
16 Carlton 81.18 88.57 81.13 72.89 63.3
17 Port Adelaide 78.77 85.29 78.13 72.56 69.6
18 Brisbane 80 87.43 79.75 72.33 68.5

DEPTH
1 Gold Coast 79.32 85.14 78.5 74.11 71.7
2 Melbourne 78.27 84.29 77 73.33 70.8
3 Collingwood 82.91 90.86 81.75 75.67 70.8
4 Western Bulldog 80.81 87.57 80 74.67 70.7
5 GWS 78.04 83.43 76.75 73.78 70.4
6 West Coast 82.4 88.71 82.88 75 70.3
7 Port Adelaide 78.77 85.29 78.13 72.56 69.6
8 North Melbourne 78.86 86.71 76 74 69.3
9 St. Kilda 79.18 85.86 78 73.33 69.3
10 Adelaide 80.72 89.86 79.25 73 69.2
11 Fremantle 80.59 87.58 79.13 74.78 69.2
12 Brisbane 80 87.43 79.75 72.33 68.5
13 Hawthorn 82.13 89.71 81.88 74.67 68.3
14 Richmond 81.09 89 80.5 73.22 68.2
15 Sydney 80.95 88.14 80.38 73.89 68.1
16 Essendon 80.81 87.29 79.5 75.33 67.9
17 Geelong 81.63 89.43 80.25 74.78 67.6
18 Carlton 81.18 88.57 81.13 72.89 63.3

Nails

imo Treloar for GWS should be more like an 81

He's pretty much one of their best 3 players IMO.

Sapientia

I've actually got him as an 82 on my personal list which will have some weighting. He'll end up closer to 80 than 75, I'd say

Jroo

Quote from: Sapientia on April 10, 2013, 11:07:47 AM
I've actually got him as an 82 on my personal list which will have some weighting. He'll end up closer to 80 than 75, I'd say
Yeah I guess 80 is good then.
Anything else I need to do?

Sapientia

Nothing more really I've just got to put everything in.

If you'd like though, test the rosters for me when they're done just so I can fix any errors before properly releasing. I'll probably have a few doing that though so if you didn't want to/time was an issue that's fine too.

That's open to anyone here, for the record :)

Jroo

Quote from: Sapientia on April 10, 2013, 12:20:09 PM
Nothing more really I've just got to put everything in.

If you'd like though, test the rosters for me when they're done just so I can fix any errors before properly releasing. I'll probably have a few doing that though so if you didn't want to/time was an issue that's fine too.

That's open to anyone here, for the record :)
Yeah I'd test the rosters, I just can't wait to play it  :D
Awesome work mate!

Sapientia

Pretty much everything's prepared now. I've got all the player info in, all the overalls prepared and now I've just got to edit each player's specific abilities and centre to overall.

3/18 teams done already so hopefully it's done by the weekend. I'm an optimist!