For Serious Coaches (When To Do The First Trades)

Started by Windigo, April 03, 2011, 10:48:53 AM

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Windigo

Hey, just wondering what round to fire off your first trade??

After the Multi bye...Or?

glynman90

I don't think there's any general rule for this. Every team has different players so requirements will vary across the league. Obviously it's preferable to conserve your trades but you shouldn't do that if it means you miss out on getting rid of a dud for someone who you think will dominate this year (maybe Broughton to Enright, for example).

chatters24

Quote from: Windigo on April 03, 2011, 10:48:53 AM
Hey, just wondering what round to fire off your first trade??

After the Multi bye...Or?

It depends on what your intentions of the trade is. There are 3 different circumstances in which trading occurs:

1. Long Term Injury
It can happen at any time, and when it does, it is better dealt with before the next round.

2. Sideways
This is one that should occur only when a premium is greatly under performingbecause his roll looks to have dramatically change in which it seems to be a permanent one. This is one trade that you have to get exactly right! There is a huge risk in simply burning a trade with this stratergy, particlarly if the player that you trade in doesn't end up averaging much more than the player you trade out. Sideways trades can also happen with rookies, however it is less common due to the smaller investment in them.

3. Cash Cows
This trade is used in many different situations for many different reasons and vary results. Different circumstances include:

A. The cash cow has now peaked so you trade him down to another rookie to pocket the extra cash he has made and inverst it elsewhere in your team to bring in another premium. This usually takes 7-9 games for good cash cows to peak.

B. You have spotted a falling premium who's price has now bottomed out. You trade out one of your cash cows who may not have peaked in price to free up some money in order to trade in the premium with a bottomed out price. This can happen earlier than round 7 as it only takes a few bad rounds for a highly priced premium to come down enough in price to warrant this sort of trade. The one thing that really stuff's coach's up with this situation is that they are too hasty in their choice of rookie that they down grade to. His job security may be very poor, therefore he doesn't get too many more games and becomes a liability on your bench later in the season.

C. Another rookies comes in during the season and play's really well in his first two games and it's obvious, that if he continues to get games he will increase in value a lot. In this case you would trade out one of your cash cow's that may not have fully developed or peaked in price (but have gained you enough cash to warrant the trade) to take advantage of the new opportunity with the latest promising rookie who is on the bubble. It's very important that this occurs only when the new rookie is on the bubble (eg he has played two games). You want to be garunteed that he is picked to play his third game (therefore he will get a price increase) before you pick him. A successful trade of this nature has been Bradd Dalziell who made his debut half way through 2008 for the Lions and played 7 games and averaged 94. An unsuccessful trade of this nature was Gysberts last year where he made a very promising debute but only manged 3 games in total for the year, therefore becoming a huge liability for his coach's who owned him. These sort's of opportunities are usually jumped on by a mass of coach's half way through the year and beyond where quality rookies are few and far between who make their debut at that stage of the season.

I know this is long but hopefully it helps you and anyone else out who are keen enough to read it all.

yorgis

i imagine it will be very helpful for some dt'ers. well done chatters !!!

someguy

Quote from: chatters24 on April 03, 2011, 11:22:09 AM
Quote from: Windigo on April 03, 2011, 10:48:53 AM
Hey, just wondering what round to fire off your first trade??

After the Multi bye...Or?

It depends on what your intentions of the trade is. There are 3 different circumstances in which trading occurs:

1. Long Term Injury
It can happen at any time, and when it does, it is better dealt with before the next round.

2. Sideways
This is one that should occur only when a premium is greatly under performingbecause his roll looks to have dramatically change in which it seems to be a permanent one. This is one trade that you have to get exactly right! There is a huge risk in simply burning a trade with this stratergy, particlarly if the player that you trade in doesn't end up averaging much more than the player you trade out. Sideways trades can also happen with rookies, however it is less common due to the smaller investment in them.

3. Cash Cows
This trade is used in many different situations for many different reasons and vary results. Different circumstances include:

A. The cash cow has now peaked so you trade him down to another rookie to pocket the extra cash he has made and inverst it elsewhere in your team to bring in another premium. This usually takes 7-9 games for good cash cows to peak.

B. You have spotted a falling premium who's price has now bottomed out. You trade out one of your cash cows who may not have peaked in price to free up some money in order to trade in the premium with a bottomed out price. This can happen earlier than round 7 as it only takes a few bad rounds for a highly priced premium to come down enough in price to warrant this sort of trade. The one thing that really stuff's coach's up with this situation is that they are too hasty in their choice of rookie that they down grade to. His job security may be very poor, therefore he doesn't get too many more games and becomes a liability on your bench later in the season.

C. Another rookies comes in during the season and play's really well in his first two games and it's obvious, that if he continues to get games he will increase in value a lot. In this case you would trade out one of your cash cow's that may not have fully developed or peaked in price (but have gained you enough cash to warrant the trade) to take advantage of the new opportunity with the latest promising rookie who is on the bubble. It's very important that this occurs only when the new rookie is on the bubble (eg he has played two games). You want to be garunteed that he is picked to play his third game (therefore he will get a price increase) before you pick him. A successful trade of this nature has been Bradd Dalziell who made his debut half way through 2008 for the Lions and played 7 games and averaged 94. An unsuccessful trade of this nature was Gysberts last year where he made a very promising debute but only manged 3 games in total for the year, therefore becoming a huge liability for his coach's who owned him. These sort's of opportunities are usually jumped on by a mass of coach's half way through the year and beyond where quality rookies are few and far between who make their debut at that stage of the season.

I know this is long but hopefully it helps you and anyone else out who are keen enough to read it all.

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Well said chatters!!

McRooster

That's almost worth a Sticky chatters! 

Premium work  8)

matt1985


Mish

Quote from: matt1985 on April 03, 2011, 12:22:54 PM
Quote from: McRooster on April 03, 2011, 12:14:46 PM
That's almost worth a Sticky chatters! 

Premium work  8)

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Good work chatters!

this is when fanfooty becomes vital! for people like chats to post premium info like that.

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Windigo


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