Ideal Upgrade Targets

[charliesheen]

Are teams that finish their byes first, like Collingwood, Gold coast, etc, really better upgrade targets?

I dunno, I am guessing the reasoning is because they play less, they will have less movements in price.

Currently I have swann, but is it really worth holding back on pendlebury, adn getting someone else like murphy, in the hope of upgrading to pendlebury after his bye?

Another person I was interested in was J. Brennan, why not just get him now?

What are your opinions on this..

[bjrouse]

You have to way up a few things

- Drop in price
- Byes
- Amount of points you would compromise by having say Swan and Pendlebury in the team when they have their bye.
- What you are aiming to achieve over the season. Overall or League
- Who else is in your side

They all play the same amount of games whether their byes are at the start of the end.

In answering you other question. IMO Brennan was average is a poor side last year. Why would he suddenly improve in a new, young, unknown side.
When Brisbane went good he went good, when they went bad he suffered.
I won't go near him

[ossie85]

Pies and Suns (i.e. Ablett) are the best upgrade targets. Sure, you're right they won't have as many movements (but that could be a good thing if they're getting more expensive).

But left with the choice of upgrading to Swan or Judd, you'd have to go with Swan cos Judd will miss a game later in the season

[charliesheen]

You have to way up a few things

- Drop in price
- Byes
- Amount of points you would compromise by having say Swan and Pendlebury in the team when they have their bye.
- What you are aiming to achieve over the season. Overall or League
- Who else is in your side

They all play the same amount of games whether their byes are at the start of the end.

In answering you other question. IMO Brennan was average is a poor side last year. Why would he suddenly improve in a new, young, unknown side.
When Brisbane went good he went good, when they went bad he suffered.
I won't go near him

so if i were going for site ranking, the byes won't affect me as much as someone going for a League win, becoz they need to qualify first.

becoz they all play same games right?  as long as i have someone to cover during their byes?

[ossie85]

While its true that every player has two byes, that won't always be the case!

Gold Coast have the first bye. Meaning after round 1 is finished, the Gold Coast have 1 bye left and everyone else 2. Therefore Gold Coast players are worth more relatively.

Adelaide have the second bye. Meaning after round 2 is finished, the Suns and Crows have 1 bye, and everyone else has 2... meaning Crows and Suns are worth more relatively...

etc. Whether you're going for league or overall, this is fact.

[charliesheen]

this is all very confusing ^^

[bjrouse]

You have to way up a few things

- Drop in price
- Byes
- Amount of points you would compromise by having say Swan and Pendlebury in the team when they have their bye.
- What you are aiming to achieve over the season. Overall or League
- Who else is in your side

They all play the same amount of games whether their byes are at the start of the end.

In answering you other question. IMO Brennan was average is a poor side last year. Why would he suddenly improve in a new, young, unknown side.
When Brisbane went good he went good, when they went bad he suffered.
I won't go near him

so if i were going for site ranking, the byes won't affect me as much as someone going for a League win, becoz they need to qualify first.

becoz they all play same games right?  as long as i have someone to cover during their byes?

Other way around...Byes affect you more for overall than league as during rounds 4,5,6,16 etc (someone will put in the correct rounds) there are no league games. The way it effects you for overall is that if you pick players from the same teams from these rounds you will take big points hits as your cover wont score as well.
Hope that makes sense

[charliesheen]

You have to way up a few things

- Drop in price
- Byes
- Amount of points you would compromise by having say Swan and Pendlebury in the team when they have their bye.
- What you are aiming to achieve over the season. Overall or League
- Who else is in your side

They all play the same amount of games whether their byes are at the start of the end.

In answering you other question. IMO Brennan was average is a poor side last year. Why would he suddenly improve in a new, young, unknown side.
When Brisbane went good he went good, when they went bad he suffered.
I won't go near him

so if i were going for site ranking, the byes won't affect me as much as someone going for a League win, becoz they need to qualify first.

becoz they all play same games right?  as long as i have someone to cover during their byes?

Other way around...Byes affect you more for overall than league as during rounds 4,5,6,16 etc (someone will put in the correct rounds) there are no league games. The way it effects you for overall is that if you pick players from the same teams from these rounds you will take big points hits as your cover wont score as well.
Hope that makes sense

I think  its starting to make sense.    So someone in the site ranking, wouldn't really care if they are mssing some people for the finals as much.  they just need a consistent score?  rather than big score towrads finals?

[charliesheen]

So say your going for a site ranking.   Wouldn't it be more ideal to fill your mid fielders with guys that only have single round byes.

Like from essendon and carlton, coz we don't care too much about big scores during finals.

[Fletch74]

So say your going for a site ranking.   Wouldn't it be more ideal to fill your mid fielders with guys that only have single round byes.

Like from essendon and carlton, coz we don't care too much about big scores during finals.

To a certain extent. You really need to have a good spread from all sides in my opinion, but you have to take into account those teams that have byes at the same time.

For instance in Rd 6 (Seems to be the most difficult) Fremantle, Hawthorn and Geelong all have byes, so you want to limit your loss in those rounds.

[charliesheen]

Like I am thinking I should have guys like

Swan and Priddis and Watson in the mid field rather than Montagna and Selwood and boyd, because my back line and forward line a bit of ST kilda Hawthon and geelong guys.

If that makes kindof sense.

[bjrouse]

So say your going for a site ranking.   Wouldn't it be more ideal to fill your mid fielders with guys that only have single round byes.

Like from essendon and carlton, coz we don't care too much about big scores during finals.

I go for overall every year. MOST POINTS = BEST SUPERCOACH.
I would rather lose the final but still get a better score overall than everyone

It would absolutely be better to fill from teams that have a bye by themselves but by doing that you eliminate Saints, Cats, Hawks, Freo, Dogs etc (the better sides in the comp) and therefore compromise your scoring every other week.

This year, more than ever, is all about the best balance while not compromising your scoring.

You need to get your rookies correct more than ever as you use them alot more
You need to get the premiums correct more than ever so that you keep your scores high.
You need to stay away from the falling premiums more than ever so that you don't lose cash and pick them up at the bottom price.
You need to trade wisely more than ever and if you do this right you can side ways trade at the end to bypass the teams (like Carlton) who have their bye then.

[Fletch74]

Spot on bj. Like your stuff ;) It's a balance this year. No longer can you overload on one particular team like the Cats or Saints in the past couple of seasons.

[charliesheen]

cool thx for spending the time replying.

Thinking I'm understanding this better.

First time SC here.

[Aralt]

'mtty' posted a great piece you might want to check it out.    :)