SC Midfield stratergy for overall

Talisman · March 10, 2011, 12:34:19 PM

OK, so I would like to do better overall this year (finished 7,873rd last year), & I think the best way to go about this is to be a little bit unique & by taking an educated risk on a few mid-pricers to jump up to premium status, especially in the mids where there appears better mid-range value than in the backs & fwds...

With this in mind, I am considering (only considering at this stage) a 2/3/1/(3) midfield stratergy & was interested in people's thoughts. Basically, it would invovle 2 premiums (say Swan & Dal Santo), 3 mid-pricers (I'm looking at players like Sidebottom, Hannebery, Josh P. Kennedy, Cotchin, Rich, Wellingham, Foley & Liam Anthony), 1 starting rookie (def. David Swallow - except for the byes of course), and 3 bench rookies (likely to be Harris, Mzungu - M/F MPP, & Hibberd - B/M MPP).

So my mids could look something like this:

Swan, Dal Santo, Josh P. Kennedy, Cotchin, Foley/Anthony, David Swallow, (Harris, Mzungu, Hibberd)

Now, or course it does gives me cause for concern, but could this work better over the enrtire season than the stock standard 3/4 prems, 0/1 mid-pricer & 2 starting rookies (with 3 rooks on the bench)??

Cheers guys. Just interested in your thoughts & thought it might be food for thought too!

cledus32 · March 10, 2011, 01:14:56 PM

My opinion is that i will only get a mid-pricer, if i think that they can either obtain or get very close to premium status, if not you will still have to trade them later.
So on that i think the only mid-pricers who can achieve premium status ( close to ave=100) would be;
Kennedy, Anthony.
Most of the others will average between 80-90, which will need to be upgraded towards the end of the season.
But i would be happy with Kennedy as my last mid averaging around 100 at the end of the year, which is my aim.

bjrouse · March 10, 2011, 03:44:16 PM

Quote from: cledus32 on March 10, 2011, 01:14:56 PM
My opinion is that i will only get a mid-pricer, if i think that they can either obtain or get very close to premium status, if not you will still have to trade them later.
So on that i think the only mid-pricers who can achieve premium status ( close to ave=100) would be;
Kennedy, Anthony.
Most of the others will average between 80-90, which will need to be upgraded towards the end of the season.
But i would be happy with Kennedy as my last mid averaging around 100 at the end of the year, which is my aim.

Yep.

Although I am anti-mid pricers....I am a 3 Prem and 3 Rookie man....Money is your friend at the end.
If you pick the right rookies you can have them averaging very highly

tom_scully · March 10, 2011, 04:03:38 PM

Last years winner started with a 2/1/3 set up if that helps

bjrouse · March 10, 2011, 04:18:51 PM

Quote from: tom_scully on March 10, 2011, 04:03:38 PM
Last years winner started with a 2/1/3 set up if that helps

He had "the man upstaris" on his side too

vc_bombers · March 10, 2011, 05:46:31 PM

Just my opinion, but I reckon the people at the top at the end will sideways trade premiums too avoid byes.

e.g. Have Jobe Watson in for the first 9 rounds and trade him for Ablett at the start of round 10, thus the premium is never actually on the bench.

Sorry if I've given away someones amazing tactic

Fletch74 · March 10, 2011, 05:48:58 PM

Quote from: vc_bombers on March 10, 2011, 05:46:31 PM
Just my opinion, but I reckon the people at the top at the end will sideways trade premiums too avoid byes.

e.g. Have Jobe Watson in for the first 9 rounds and trade him for Ablett at the start of round 10, thus the premium is never actually on the bench.

Sorry if I've given away someones amazing tactic

There will obviously be some sideway trading, but to do it for byes will result in you running out. Injuries play a major role, and coaches nearly always run out of byes if they're not careful and do silly sideway trades like that. Maybe you might be able to one or two, but you can't do that all the time!!

vc_bombers · March 10, 2011, 05:55:07 PM

Quote from: Fletch74 on March 10, 2011, 05:48:58 PM
Quote from: vc_bombers on March 10, 2011, 05:46:31 PM
Just my opinion, but I reckon the people at the top at the end will sideways trade premiums too avoid byes.

e.g. Have Jobe Watson in for the first 9 rounds and trade him for Ablett at the start of round 10, thus the premium is never actually on the bench.

Sorry if I've given away someones amazing tactic
There will obviously be some sideway trading, but to do it for byes will result in you running out. Injuries play a major role, and coaches nearly always run out of byes if they're not careful and do silly sideway trades like that. Maybe you might be able to one or two, but you can't do that all the time!!

Completely agree with you. Obviously luck with injuries plays a massive part, but rookies do as well. If you're able to get a decent scoring rookie as cover for a premium it obviously saves the trade. I'd happily take a 75 from a rookie and save a trade, rather than taking 110 or so for a trade I might need to burn later on.

Fletch74 · March 10, 2011, 06:02:30 PM

Quote from: vc_bombers on March 10, 2011, 05:55:07 PM
Quote from: Fletch74 on March 10, 2011, 05:48:58 PM
Quote from: vc_bombers on March 10, 2011, 05:46:31 PM
Just my opinion, but I reckon the people at the top at the end will sideways trade premiums too avoid byes.

e.g. Have Jobe Watson in for the first 9 rounds and trade him for Ablett at the start of round 10, thus the premium is never actually on the bench.

Sorry if I've given away someones amazing tactic
There will obviously be some sideway trading, but to do it for byes will result in you running out. Injuries play a major role, and coaches nearly always run out of byes if they're not careful and do silly sideway trades like that. Maybe you might be able to one or two, but you can't do that all the time!!

Completely agree with you. Obviously luck with injuries plays a massive part, but rookies do as well. If you're able to get a decent scoring rookie as cover for a premium it obviously saves the trade. I'd happily take a 75 from a rookie and save a trade, rather than taking 110 or so for a trade I might need to burn later on.

If you agree with me then why do you think people at the top will do sideway trades to avoid byes ???

vc_bombers · March 10, 2011, 06:14:00 PM

Quote from: Fletch74 on March 10, 2011, 06:02:30 PM
Quote from: vc_bombers on March 10, 2011, 05:55:07 PM
Quote from: Fletch74 on March 10, 2011, 05:48:58 PM
Quote from: vc_bombers on March 10, 2011, 05:46:31 PM
Just my opinion, but I reckon the people at the top at the end will sideways trade premiums too avoid byes.

e.g. Have Jobe Watson in for the first 9 rounds and trade him for Ablett at the start of round 10, thus the premium is never actually on the bench.

Sorry if I've given away someones amazing tactic
There will obviously be some sideway trading, but to do it for byes will result in you running out. Injuries play a major role, and coaches nearly always run out of byes if they're not careful and do silly sideway trades like that. Maybe you might be able to one or two, but you can't do that all the time!!

Completely agree with you. Obviously luck with injuries plays a massive part, but rookies do as well. If you're able to get a decent scoring rookie as cover for a premium it obviously saves the trade. I'd happily take a 75 from a rookie and save a trade, rather than taking 110 or so for a trade I might need to burn later on.
If you agree with me then why do you think people at the top will do sideway trades to avoid byes ???

Sorry really should clear it up.

In the past for supercoach it seemed like an absolute sin to sideways trade except for injuries and suspensions late on for finals. Sideways trading to avoid byes could get people an extra 50 points which may be crucial in the overall scheme of things, as long as they don't get killed by injuries and suspensions with little trades left.

I'm not suggesting that anyone goes and trades out their premiums every round to avoid the byes. There's been massive emphasis to trade out players who have a bye in finals, but no specific time as to when to trade them. What I'm trying to suggest that instead of being reactive to league finals and trading late on, maybe be proactive and trade them earlier to avoid a premium having a bye. The idea is that if your going to use a trade, you might as well get maximum value for it.

I hope I've made it a little clearer :)

Fletch74 · March 10, 2011, 06:18:38 PM

Yes you have ;) Cheers, but I still don't think the idea is a really good one. I think that wasting trades like that will only lead to your downfall. You could maybe get away with perhaps 1 or 2 at most, but otherwise they would be silly.

A Watson to GAJ is sort of smart considering Watson would still have 2 byes to go and GAJ would have none, so I see where you're coming from ;)

vc_bombers · March 10, 2011, 06:22:41 PM

No worries. Just re-read what I initially wrote and I get where your coming from, sounds like I'm telling everyone to trade when you've got a bye.

nathan11 · March 10, 2011, 10:37:08 PM

Quote from: Fletch74 on March 10, 2011, 06:18:38 PM
Yes you have ;) Cheers, but I still don't think the idea is a really good one. I think that wasting trades like that will only lead to your downfall. You could maybe get away with perhaps 1 or 2 at most, but otherwise they would be silly.

A Watson to GAJ is sort of smart considering Watson would still have 2 byes to go and GAJ would have none, so I see where you're coming from ;)

hmmm that sounds like a good idea to me hadn't thought of that :)

vc_bombers · March 11, 2011, 01:21:53 AM

Just to point out trading in Ablett is ideal because 2 byes are taken care of, but you could do it with other players to avoid a single bye.Then again it could backfire if the guy you initially pick drops in price significantly.

Fletch74 · March 11, 2011, 10:03:53 AM

Quote from: vc_bombers on March 11, 2011, 01:21:53 AM
Just to point out trading in Ablett is ideal because 2 byes are taken care of, but you could do it with other players to avoid a single bye.Then again it could backfire if the guy you initially pick drops in price significantly.

Also you have to remember that you don't just pick players because of their bye situation, you have to take into account form as well. If GAJ's form is not good, it may not be worth while selecting him.