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Maca24 · March 05, 2011, 02:17:32 PM

Quote from: Marcz on March 05, 2011, 02:14:40 PM
haha there is still good oldies but everyones switching strategy :P

thats what i reckon lol. everyone is going for popularity.

Andrew3737 · March 05, 2011, 02:18:15 PM

There sare good oldies, but not elite.

8-6 Suited · March 05, 2011, 02:24:30 PM

John 'Hondo' Havlicek

A Celtics legend. 8x NBA Champion, 1x Finals MVP, 13x NBA All-Star, 4x All-NBA First team and 7x All-NBA Second team. But the major reason I will take him is his defensive achievements. 5Ã— NBA All-Defensive First Team and 3x NBA All-Defensive second team.

For the man who revolutionized the 6th man spot, he will now become mine. :>

RiOtChEsS · March 05, 2011, 02:35:05 PM

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 05, 2011, 02:18:15 PM
There sare good oldies, but not elite.

its ok to admit uve changed strategy Andrew u r human arent u?

8-6 Suited · March 05, 2011, 02:41:30 PM

PG: Gary 'The Glove' Payton
SG: Ray 'Jesus Shuttlesworth' Allen
SF: Scottie 'Pip' Pippen
PF: Charles 'Sir Charles' Barkley
C: Shaquille 'Shaq' O'Neil

BENCH: John 'Hondo' Havlicek
BENCH: Wilt 'The Big Dipper' Chamberlain
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As for there not being any elite oldies, yes there is Andrew. You just don't think they are. Not a lot of current elite players left anymore either. ;)

RiOtChEsS · March 05, 2011, 02:49:12 PM

Quote from: 8-6 Suited on March 05, 2011, 02:41:30 PM
As for there not being any elite oldies, yes there is Andrew. You just don't think they are. Not a lot of current elite players left anymore either. ;)

yep infact il name u a better New Orleans PG than CP3...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pete_Maravich

Andrew3737 · March 05, 2011, 02:52:14 PM

Actually, CP3> Pistol Pete AINEC

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=paulch01&y1=2011&p2=maravpe01&y2=1980

8-6 Suited · March 05, 2011, 02:53:57 PM

Marcz, he is right. Pistol Pete wasn't that good. :P

RiOtChEsS · March 05, 2011, 02:55:38 PM

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 05, 2011, 02:52:14 PM
Actually, CP3> Pistol Pete AINEC

http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/pcm_finder.cgi?request=1&sum=1&p1=paulch01&y1=2011&p2=maravpe01&y2=1980

oh yeah im totally gonna click that and read it ::)

Andrew3737 · March 05, 2011, 02:57:45 PM

Well maybe you should. Might learn not to rate a player by sorting everything in the achievements column from their wiki page.

8-6 Suited · March 05, 2011, 02:59:39 PM

But Kidd > Paul. But thats for careers thus far, where as given the same years int he league Paul > Kidd will be an understatement.

RiOtChEsS · March 05, 2011, 03:03:08 PM

Quote from: Andrew3737 on March 05, 2011, 02:57:45 PM
Well maybe you should. Might learn not to rate a player by sorting everything in the achievements column from their wiki page.

i was pointing out uve changed ur strategy...

so im guessing u rate Pis CHraul over Bob Cousy over Tiny Archibald over Walt Frazier???

8-6 Suited · March 05, 2011, 03:05:47 PM

All those above you had champion teams around them Marcz. Paul never has been is easily statistically better than them in his 6 seasons in the league.

You put Paul with Boston, Heat, Knicks, Magic or Lakers and I assure you that he would be winning rings almost every season.

Andrew3737 · March 05, 2011, 03:09:05 PM

I haven't changed strategy though. I'm picking the best players that I need for my bench.

And yes I would. You seriously underrate CP3's ability. He has GOAT potential and is easily 2nd/3rd best player in the league today. This is while he is stuck in NOH+injuries.

I put Kidd and CP in the same bracket.

CP's PER was .1 behind LBJ's first MVP year. His WS were through the roof. THen he got injured.

RiOtChEsS · March 05, 2011, 03:09:32 PM

but then his stats wouldnt be so impressive so its a catch 22...