what have we learnt?

[Bak2Form]

what did we learn from this weeks nab cup games? who are already locks and who is looking shaky? for me gaff wont be starting on the midfield now, broughton was almost a certain lock but confirmed it with his first game. Mzungu looks a good starting rookie aswell

[Chopps]

that i dont like this format for the purpose of DT, also that out of bounds rule is crap to say the least, thats about it so far

[valkorum]

that i dont like this format for the purpose of DT, also that out of bounds rule is crap to say the least, thats about it so far

Definitely have to agree with you about this.  Stupid rule which needs to be removed and should never be thought about again.

[yorgis]

must be the dumbest rule the afl ever thought up.trying to judge a rookies form in this nab format is is impossible. they can pick up dt points but with this rule can can lose or gain points for free kicks for/against. just watch them and see how they get the ball and what they do with it

[nillation]

It's also interesting to consider what impact the boundary rule is having on fantasy scores. I noticed that the scoring was quite a bit lower even for half a match. This may be due to the lack of junk time to really allow the possession sluts to shine but I’d also wager that there’s more points to be had out of a boundary throw in than a free kick.

Overall, 1 â€" 3 + 3 + 3 = 4 (a free kick for, against, kick and the possibility of a mark). Compared to a boundary throw-in where tackles can be laid and multiple quick handballs can be fired I’d say the rule is dampening fantasy scores.

It also impacts the distribution of points away from the core midfielders and ruckman. The varying ruck types are probably affected the most by this depending on in they are a roaming utility ruckman or a tap ruckman. Although each only had one game to judge by the most obvious example is Cox and Sandilands. One was able to use his mobility to find space and present options, not really missing the taps, while the other, whose scores are largely dependent on getting his palm to the ball 30+ times a game, suffered. The same can be said for heavy tacklers who thrive on congestion at the regularly developed contests (think Bartel, Boyd, Swallow etc though these guys are yet to play).

It’s just something to remember when using these lightning carnivals to judge players. I’d have to agree with the comments above. It didn’t make the game more exciting. Also, regular NAB cups are hard enough to judge players from with teams inclined to experiment with roles, styles and young line-ups it’s difficult to tell if a player is crap or just suffering from something like reduced TOG.

[popedelio]

It's also interesting to consider what impact the boundary rule is having on fantasy scores. I noticed that the scoring was quite a bit lower even for half a match. This may be due to the lack of junk time to really allow the possession sluts to shine but I’d also wager that there’s more points to be had out of a boundary throw in than a free kick.

Overall, 1 – 3 + 3 + 3 = 4 (a free kick for, against, kick and the possibility of a mark). Compared to a boundary throw-in where tackles can be laid and multiple quick handballs can be fired I’d say the rule is dampening fantasy scores.

It also impacts the distribution of points away from the core midfielders and ruckman. The varying ruck types are probably affected the most by this depending on in they are a roaming utility ruckman or a tap ruckman. Although each only had one game to judge by the most obvious example is Cox and Sandilands. One was able to use his mobility to find space and present options, not really missing the taps, while the other, whose scores are largely dependent on getting his palm to the ball 30+ times a game, suffered. The same can be said for heavy tacklers who thrive on congestion at the regularly developed contests (think Bartel, Boyd, Swallow etc though these guys are yet to play).

It’s just something to remember when using these lightning carnivals to judge players. I’d have to agree with the comments above. It didn’t make the game more exciting. Also, regular NAB cups are hard enough to judge players from with teams inclined to experiment with roles, styles and young line-ups it’s difficult to tell if a player is crap or just suffering from something like reduced TOG.

all of this is so true, some players are going to find it hard to get some points, espeacially inside midfielders.

Some youngster caught my eye, I rather not say because they might be a steal for me, haha but probably not

[j959]

that i dont like this format for the purpose of DT, also that out of bounds rule is crap to say the least, thats about it so far

Definitely have to agree with you about this.  Stupid rule which needs to be removed and should never be thought about again.

i don't mind the AFL trying new things - it is clear that the rule isn't going to work - i'm guessing they might can it after this round is finished perhaps, but I can't see them implementing it for regular season games ever ...

[valkorum]

My understanding is that this out of bounds rule was only for RD1 of the NAB Cup. (this week and next week only)

[j959]

My understanding is that this out of bounds rule was only for RD1 of the NAB Cup. (this week and next week only)

that's fair enough, the games also go back to regular 4 quarters in the next round as well yeah?

[dockerone]

My understanding is that this out of bounds rule was only for RD1 of the NAB Cup. (this week and next week only)

that's fair enough, the games also go back to regular 4 quarters in the next round as well yeah?

Correct  :)

[CuStArDaRm]

sweeeeet!!!! I thought the 20 20 format was for the whole NAB  :o
What sucks is teams like Carlton and whoever else dont make the cut wont be able to display the rooks in full games.
Hopefully theres plenty of scratch matches between teams that dont go through.

[Holz]

i havent learnt much, the only thing i got was mzungu, broughton and grimes are all locks for me.

[j959]

sweeeeet!!!! I thought the 20 20 format was for the whole NAB  :o
What sucks is teams like Carlton and whoever else dont make the cut wont be able to display the rooks in full games.
Hopefully theres plenty of scratch matches between teams that dont go through.

they'll still have NAB challenge games at full length for the non-progressors i think custard ...

[masterdead]

We poor people need to get foxtel  in order to fully appreciate the nab cup. Other wise it feels like 1940 listening to it on the radio.

[valkorum]

Hopefully (like last year) fantasy freako sends out his weekly update on how players scored for the NAB Cup and NAB Challenge