Economically Speaking....

[ossie85]

This may sound a bit weird, I apologise in advance! But sometimes I think we look at a players price and it isn't a true reflection of their cost. By my count, every player's cost is $77,400 over valued on the fan-planner. Why? Hear me out.

Say you're going into DVD store. You pick up the latest Twilight Saw movie, and see the price of it is $25. Alas, you look into your wallet, and you see you only have $20. $5 too short, and you get to keep your $20 to spend another day. However, when you get home, your dear old Aunt Mavis gives you a $20 DVD voucher for that same DVD store. You give your Aunt a peck on her surprisingly hairy cheek, and bound back down to the store.

Again, you pick up your Twilight Saw DVD, and now, you only have to pay $5! Everything in the store is now effectively $20 cheaper! So you start to think, "hmmm, what else can I buy?" So you walk around and see a limited edition New Moon (you just can't lie to yourself anymore) DVD for $39! Knowing that it is now only $19, you buy it, and go home a happy fanboy.

This is what I think we're missing in SC (and that lesser beast DT) comps. We've effectively been given 33 vouchers worth $77,400 to spend on each player. Why? Because $77,400 is the MINIMUM you have to spend on any player in order to enter the competition.

So Brendon Goddard is really $581,200, not $658,600. David Swallow is really $135,100 instead of $212,500 and - you guessed it - players like Dylan McNeil, normally valued at $77,400 - are actually FREE.

The flip side is that you have to adjust your budget. Where before your budget was $10,000,000, it is now:

$10,000,000 minus 33*$77,400

= $7,445,800

So, in reality, it doesn't really change a thing. It is just a different way of thinking. As much as m0nty's fanplanner is great, I have my own spreadsheet for selecting a team cos it's a lot faster. I selected a team using this method and I'm very happy with the results :)

I may attach the spreadsheet(s) at a later date if people are interested.

Thoughts?

[Junktimer]

interesting theory.. would be interested to see that spreadsheet you have

[MajorLazer]

Interesting way of looking at it Ossie. Never really thought of it like that.

[pyronerd]

it definitely is a different, and a correct way to look at the salary cap, for me though i dont think it will make any difference to how i pick my team

[Fletch74]

Economically speaking you are correct Ossie ;)

You make a solid point in that everybody starts with the same base, so if you wanted to do a regression analysis based on the players value against their points scored (based on last year), you would have to make "a" equal to $77,400 in the formula y=a+bx, or as Ossie suggested adjust the formula to y=bx with "a" equalling zero.

I plan to make a spreadsheet during January using this basis to see the over/under performers, and then when the season gets under way, see how they perform against that.

Would be interested in seeing what you've done Ossie ;)

[ossie85]

Xactly Fletch!

I also think it is rigged so that players can't go under $77,400 (Relton Roberts if only he had played one more game would have tested that theory).


At the moment it stands that the lower the average for a player, the better "value" (dollars per point) they are. But clearly that's not best for selecting a team!

[Fletch74]

Yes, it would have been interesting to see what happened with Relton. I reckon he would have gone below the magical figure.

For me, it's just a minimum starting base, any movement after that is not influenced by the starting base.

[Maca24]

seems to me like your overthinking it a bit  :)

[Boomz]

Way to complicated for my small brain but whatever that means it sounds... interesting ;)

[Justin Bieber]

I get what you mean. It won't change things but sees it from a different angle.

Something interesting to think about.....

[Master Q]

Agree with HP.

But if some players are Free, what is the BE? and can they drop price?

[Junktimer]

Agree with HP.

But if some players are Free, what is the BE? and can they drop price?

good point, i think that even though the MN might permit them to go below should they average 3; i think that it is impossible to drop price

[Master Q]

Making everyone 77k cheaper will mess up the BE system I think anyway, won't it?

[ossie85]

Making everyone 77k cheaper will mess up the BE system I think anyway, won't it?

Yes. But you're missing the point. I'm not proposing a new system, just a different basis we should be selecting our teams on.

[Knowall]

Making everyone 77k cheaper will mess up the BE system I think anyway, won't it?

Yes. But you're missing the point. I'm not proposing a new system, just a different basis we should be selecting our teams on.

Yea i understand what you mean, but as others say probally will not change my selections-but its very creative and interesting way to look at it