The 2011 Merry-go-round

[Jas 13]

From the players that have been linked away from their clubs, where do you see them ending up in 2011?

Steven Salopek
Nathan Jones
Dean Polo   
Richard Tambling
Trent West
Mark Blake
Jonathon Griffin
Sam Jacobs
Andrew Walker
Josh Fraser
Chris Tarrant
Will Minson
Jared Brennan
Bachar Houli
Justin Sherman
Josh Drummond

[Maca24]

Steven Salopek- Essendon  :)
Nathan Jones - Melbourne
Dean Polo - will nominate for draft IMO
Richard Tambling - Stays?
Trent West - Think he will stay
Mark Blake- Going somewhere
Jonathon Griffin - No1 will pick him up
Sam Jacobs - adelaide
Andrew Walker - Brisbane
Josh Fraser - gold coast
Chris Tarrant - St kilda/ hawks
Will Minson - stays
Jared Brennan- Carlton

[Jas 13]

I'm going to say:
Steven Salopek- Essendon 
Nathan Jones - Essendon
Dean Polo - Draft
Richard Tambling - Stays
Trent West - Stays
Mark Blake - Draft
Jonathon Griffin - Draft
Sam Jacobs - Adelaide
Andrew Walker - Adelaide
Josh Fraser - Freo
Chris Tarrant - Pies
Will Minson - Gold Coast/Cats
Jared Brennan- Gold Coast

[hawk_88]

Steven Salopek - Hawks/Swans
Nathan Jones - Bombers
Dean Polo - Cats
Richard Tambling - Cats
Trent West - Cats
Mark Blake - Tigers
Jonathon Griffin - Draft
Sam Jacobs - Crows
Andrew Walker - Crows
Josh Fraser - Demons
Chris Tarrant - Hawks/Blues
Will Minson - Suns/Cats
Jared Brennan - Suns

Few others...
Bachar Houli - Richmond
Justin Sherman - Cats/Suns
Josh Drummond - Hawks/Suns/Lions


Look out for the Blake <> Polo Tambling trade... you heard it here first.

[simma1978]

Steven Salopek - Hawks/Swans
Nathan Jones - Bombers
Dean Polo - Cats
Richard Tambling - Cats
Trent West - Cats
Mark Blake - Tigers
Jonathon Griffin - Draft
Sam Jacobs - Crows
Andrew Walker - Crows
Josh Fraser - Demons
Chris Tarrant - Hawks/Blues
Will Minson - Suns/Cats
Jared Brennan - Suns

Few others...
Bachar Houli - Richmond
Justin Sherman - Cats/Suns
Josh Drummond - Hawks/Suns/Lions


Look out for the Blake <> Polo Tambling trade... you heard it here first.

You have got to be kidding hawk_88. There is no way on earth that richmond will give up 2 players, one of which was a first round pick for a dud like Blake when they already have plenty of ruckmen. You've lost the plot!!!

[Master Q]

I'm going to say:
Steven Salopek- Essendon 
Nathan Jones - Essendon
Dean Polo - Draft
Richard Tambling - Stays
Trent West - Stays
Mark Blake - Draft
Jonathon Griffin - Draft
Sam Jacobs - Adelaide
Andrew Walker - Adelaide
Josh Fraser - Freo
Chris Tarrant - Pies
Will Minson - Gold Coast/Cats
Jared Brennan- Gold Coast

Agree with most except Fraser will go to GC, Tarrant will go to Hawks/Blues, Minson will stay and Brennan will go to Blues.

[Jas 13]

Cheers Hawka, just added those 3...

Bachar Houli - Stay
Justin Sherman - Tigers
Josh Drummond - Blues/Essendon

[hawk_88]

You have got to be kidding hawk_88. There is no way on earth that richmond will give up 2 players, one of which was a first round pick for a dud like Blake when they already have plenty of ruckmen. You've lost the plot!!!

There would most likely be picks involved, however Richmond's ruck stocks aren't great yet. They need a ruckman of experience in the mix, especially as big men take time to develop.

Blake has played over 100 games, has finals experience and at 25 might be considered for a position in the leadership group. He has come from a club that has elite culture, elite results and elite systems and structures. He would be considered quite valuable by Richmond.

The fact that Tambling was a 1st round draft pick is irrelevant. He is 24. 6 years of senior footy is where his worth will be determined. He wouldn't be in the top 10 players at Richmond. You would be lucky to get a second round pick if you put him on the open market. However a change of scenery might be good for him, one with a culture of excellence especially. Geelong lacks some speed which he could offer.

Geelong's defence might be changing a bit over the preseason and Polo might fit in there well.

I think if Geelong gave a 3rd round pick + Blake for Tambling + Polo both sides would be very happy.



Also with Houli I think it probably depends on who the coach of Essendon is.

[simma1978]

Absolute Rubbish Hawk. Blake is useless, all the young ruckmen on Richmonds list have more ability on their little finger than Blake does. Your theory is probably the worst I've heard in some time and I've heard a fair bit of crap too!!!

[hawk_88]

Absolute Rubbish Hawk. Blake is useless, all the young ruckmen on Richmonds list have more ability on their little finger than Blake does. Your theory is probably the worst I've heard in some time and I've heard a fair bit of crap too!!!

Given that he has played over 80 games in the past 4 years for arguably the best team in decades simply saying that he is "rubbish" doesn't hold much weight. Why is he rubbish? What is he doing wrong? Why would Bomber favour him over King and Mumford? He can't be totally rubbish.

He isn't great around the ground, but is a very good tap ruckman, something that Richmond need.

[Hawka]

Steven Salopek - Stays
Nathan Jones - Stays
Dean Polo - gone
Richard Tambling - Essendon
Trent West - Cats
Mark Blake - Hawks
Jonathon Griffin - Freo
Sam Jacobs - Crows
Andrew Walker - Crows
Josh Fraser - Demons
Chris Tarrant - Hawks
Will Minson - Suns/Cats
Jared Brennan - Suns

Bachar Houli - Richmond
Justin Sherman - dogs/Suns
Josh Drummond - Hawks/bombers

[Master Q]

Given that he has played over 80 games in the past 4 years for arguably the best team in decades simply saying that he is "rubbish" doesn't hold much weight.

108 Games in 5 Years doesn't mean he is the best ruckmen.

Have you thought about how he got those games? Ottens is really there only good ruckmen, and he is struggling with injury. Hawkins is normally named as a Forward. Blake was also given extra games when Mummy and King was around, because he was young and Mummy and King were in bad form.

In 2007, King was injured for most of the year, playing 5 games. Ottens also battled with injury playing 15, and Mumford wasn't at Geelong in 07'. Meaning Blake was forced to play as he was pretty much the only other ruckmen!

[Maca24]

im pretty confident houli will be staying guys

[hawk_88]

108 Games in 5 Years doesn't mean he is the best ruckmen.

Have you thought about how he got those games? Ottens is really there only good ruckmen, and he is struggling with injury. Hawkins is normally named as a Forward. Blake was also given extra games when Mummy and King was around, because he was young and Mummy and King were in bad form.

In 2007, King was injured for most of the year, playing 5 games. Ottens also battled with injury playing 15, and Mumford wasn't at Geelong in 07'. Meaning Blake was forced to play as he was pretty much the only other ruckmen!

Not saying he is the best ruckman, but they let King go at the end of 07 in favour of Blake. They favoured Blake over Mumford in the best 22 so Mumford sought out a club where he could get a game. You don't play 100 games by pure luck.

I'm not saying he is a gun, far from it. However to simply state he is "useless" without qualifying that with any arguments or examples is a nothing statement. Quite clearly he has some semblance of talent.

Blake will hold some currency at the trade table and if you look at Richmond's ruck stocks, you have Graham as the number one, who is average at best, Vickery who has some potential, but is still very green and needs a lot of development and Browne who has shown very little. Between the 3 of them there is 66 games of experience. A 23 year old and two 20 year olds.

Blake is a good tap ruckman and exactly what Richmond need. Not just for their ruck stocks, but also to help the young midfield develop. Having a good tap ruckman will help the midfield develop in clearances, especially inside players like Martin.

[Kazahkstan]

Steven Salopek - Port Adelaide, according to HS website.
Nathan Jones - Melbourne
Dean Polo - Who cares?
Richard Tambling - Richmond
Trent West - Won't stay at the cats. Wouldn't have a clue.
Mark Blake - Either will stay and be their No. 1 ruckman, or traded to acquire a better one.
Jonathon Griffin - West Coast
Sam Jacobs - Adelaide
Andrew Walker - Adelaide
Josh Fraser - GC
Chris Tarrant - Collingwood
Will Minson - 'Dogs
Jared Brennan - GC
Bachar Houli - Essendon
Justin Sherman - Essendon
Josh Drummond - Brisbane