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Quote from: SilkySkills on February 17, 2013, 02:05:48 PM
I like defending on a Dry w/ seamer weather. :-\ We should play on an Uneven/Overcast >:D
I bought a project seamer to help me if I ever have to play on that. Thing is he is 20 and isn't really worth playing yet...

McRooster

Has it been asked in the FTP forum if the ME allows Ash to introduce the front foot no-ball/free hit rule? I think it would shape the game toward a truer parity.

dutchie87

Match Ratings
   Zapree Affiliate   dutchies wonders
Batting - Top Order   4,167   9,895
Batting - Middle Order   2,403   7,838
Batting - Tail   2,142   2,929
Bowling - Seam   3,394 (16)   9,103 (12)
Bowling - Spin   2,320 (4)   9,187 (8)
Fielding/Keeping   3,466   10,076
Overall   59,003   155,638

http://www.fromthepavilion.org/scorecard.htm?gameId=2194346

jhello234

Quote from: dutchie87 on February 19, 2013, 10:53:24 PM
Match Ratings
   Zapree Affiliate   dutchies wonders
Batting - Top Order   4,167   9,895
Batting - Middle Order   2,403   7,838
Batting - Tail   2,142   2,929
Bowling - Seam   3,394 (16)   9,103 (12)
Bowling - Spin   2,320 (4)   9,187 (8)
Fielding/Keeping   3,466   10,076
Overall   59,003   155,638

http://www.fromthepavilion.org/scorecard.htm?gameId=2194346

:o

Cyrus

how flowered up is the ME  >:(

It Be So Scot won by 7 wickets

   It Be So Scot    Clyde Cougars
Batting - Top Order    10,982    11,366
Batting - Middle Order    8,465    10,902
Batting - Tail    3,761    5,713
Bowling - Seam    10,513 (12)    10,746 (12)
Bowling - Spin    9,604 (8)    12,422 (8)
Fielding/Keeping    9,421    13,043
Overall    168,086    202,427

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

DazBurg

Quote from: Cyrus on February 20, 2013, 12:19:53 AM
how flowered up is the ME  >:(

It Be So Scot won by 7 wickets

   It Be So Scot    Clyde Cougars
Batting - Top Order    10,982    11,366
Batting - Middle Order    8,465    10,902
Batting - Tail    3,761    5,713
Bowling - Seam    10,513 (12)    10,746 (12)
Bowling - Spin    9,604 (8)    12,422 (8)
Fielding/Keeping    9,421    13,043
Overall    168,086    202,427

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
damn i lost but saw he was playing you and i thought oh thats ok he will lose too then we stay on both amount of wins and i stay ahead........damnit

Cookie311993

Quote from: Cyrus on February 20, 2013, 12:19:53 AM
how flowered up is the ME  >:(

It Be So Scot won by 7 wickets

   It Be So Scot    Clyde Cougars
Batting - Top Order    10,982    11,366
Batting - Middle Order    8,465    10,902
Batting - Tail    3,761    5,713
Bowling - Seam    10,513 (12)    10,746 (12)
Bowling - Spin    9,604 (8)    12,422 (8)
Fielding/Keeping    9,421    13,043
Overall    168,086    202,427

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Unfortunately for you not entirely ME fault. To some degree yes. Hard =  upset pitch, t20 increases the chance of upset. Batting orders could be more aggressie. I scored more runs on a green pitch today then you did on hard. Quite possibly not aggressive enough for the conditions. Bowling orders might need a tweak as well

Fletch74

Quote from: Cookie311993 on February 20, 2013, 01:07:35 AM
Quote from: Cyrus on February 20, 2013, 12:19:53 AM
how flowered up is the ME  >:(

It Be So Scot won by 7 wickets

   It Be So Scot    Clyde Cougars
Batting - Top Order    10,982    11,366
Batting - Middle Order    8,465    10,902
Batting - Tail    3,761    5,713
Bowling - Seam    10,513 (12)    10,746 (12)
Bowling - Spin    9,604 (8)    12,422 (8)
Fielding/Keeping    9,421    13,043
Overall    168,086    202,427

>:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Unfortunately for you not entirely ME fault. To some degree yes. Hard =  upset pitch, t20 increases the chance of upset. Batting orders could be more aggressie. I scored more runs on a green pitch today then you did on hard. Quite possibly not aggressive enough for the conditions. Bowling orders might need a tweak as well
I'd have to agree, T20 and Hard pitch are automatic upset pitches, but you've lost some matches Cyrus when you've been outrated this season. I think you're orders need a tweak here or there ;)

Just practise them in some friendlies.

Nails

If you read the ftp forums lately you know how I went yesterday ::)

At least your loss wasn't as bad as my affiliate's cyrus

35K upset to... A BOT!
http://fromthepavilion.org/scorecard.htm?gameId=2204383

:(

Fletch74

The BOT is a team with mostly legendary XP, ex NAT's probably. I've been beaten by one of those. You have to always be careful when playing them...

Cyrus

#53350
batting orders where as follows
A
N
N
N
A
N
A
N
N
D
D

Bowling was
1 over on A ( F/M )
8 on N
11 on D
he had a 32yo 13k wage F/M who was on weary to start the game and he took 0/25 off 4
he also had a 6k wage RWS who took 3/39 and a 12k FS who was Pass fatigue took 2/44
while my 16k fs and 15k FS took 1/40 and 1/45
does not make sense to me on a hard deck  :o

Nails

If you ask me, too many batters on A. Hard = batters will score fast on N anyway. N = normal for T20 so they're already going to be looking to score fast.

A = aggressive for T20 settings so will be looking to score aggressively. You probably know that and your batters played fine. However it could 'cost you eventually perhaps.

A
N
N
N
A

= Lose 1 wicket to the A batter easily, then when you eventually lose the next 2 wickets, might lose your follow up A super quick. IDK actually your batting orders are probably fine.


However I have a big issue with your bowling orders.

Waaaaaaay too many D and not enough A imo.

Yes, D is good to keep the ER (at face value) and A is better for wickets albeit expensive.

You need more A to take wickets as that'll slow the RR down. In theory you'd think 11d will slow them down, but I believe it'd do the opposite when used in such great numbers. D = doesn't take many wickets = batters don't get out = batters stay in for a long period of time = they get their eye in = they can score against your D, N or A bowlers too easily. Therefore by having too many D overs, you let the batters stay at the crease for too long and through the extra wickets left at the end of the innings and the fact they've been batting a while makes it easier for them to score runs towards the end.

You NEED to take wickets or they'll walk all over you IMO.

Cookie311993

Quote from: Nails on February 20, 2013, 07:48:28 PM
If you ask me, too many batters on A. Hard = batters will score fast on N anyway. N = normal for T20 so they're already going to be looking to score fast.

A = aggressive for T20 settings so will be looking to score aggressively. You probably know that and your batters played fine. However it could 'cost you eventually perhaps.

A
N
N
N
A

= Lose 1 wicket to the A batter easily, then when you eventually lose the next 2 wickets, might lose your follow up A super quick. IDK actually your batting orders are probably fine.


However I have a big issue with your bowling orders.

Waaaaaaay too many D and not enough A imo.

Yes, D is good to keep the ER (at face value) and A is better for wickets albeit expensive.

You need more A to take wickets as that'll slow the RR down. In theory you'd think 11d will slow them down, but I believe it'd do the opposite when used in such great numbers. D = doesn't take many wickets = batters don't get out = batters stay in for a long period of time = they get their eye in = they can score against your D, N or A bowlers too easily. Therefore by having too many D overs, you let the batters stay at the crease for too long and through the extra wickets left at the end of the innings and the fact they've been batting a while makes it easier for them to score runs towards the end.

You NEED to take wickets or they'll walk all over you IMO.
That's probably why you are still stuck in div 4 :/. In t20 I have maybe 2-4 overs agg, 6-8 def, 8-12 normal. Batting I normally have an opener,middle and lower order on agg with a def at 3/4. I have had plenty of success in t20 even nats

Nails

I have plenty of success normally.

and I mostly agree with you, but Cyrus had no proper D batter to hold the order together.

And over HALF the bowling overs on D is way too much. In my last match that I just lost cookie I had:

1 batter D and 1 batter on A, due to it being a sticky, rest on N.

4 overs agg bowling, 6 overs def bowling, 10 overs norm bowling.

11 Overs of D bowling is WAY too much.

Cyrus

ok firstly the batsman on A made 75 so that blows that theory out of the water
the other 2 A bats made 16 and 0 but that was at the end of the innings last ball of the 19th over and 4th ball of the last over
my problem is he had a weary 32yo who only went for 25 runs and a 6k wristy who took 3 wickets on a hard deck while my far superior bowlers had trouble, i have used very similar orders all season and the only 2 games i have lost are to this team when out rating him by 33k lost by 6 wickets and 34k  lost by 7 wickets
now if it was very close eg 1 or 2 wicket loss then yeah i'd cop it on the chin, but to get smashed the way i did in those 2 games....