2021 Forwards

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Mat0369

Quote from: dmac07 on March 08, 2021, 10:22:42 AM
Tom Phillips anyone? Or was this weeks game just a one off? Cheap at 402k.

Seems he will clearly be back to being a full time wing/mid this year replace Smith who the Hawks lost. Average 90 in 2018 in his third season when playing as a mid. 24 now and entering his prime.

I believe he had a high number of CB's he attended. Mitchell and O'Meara to come back will see that drop. He should still be a decent option but 85-90 is what I'd expect

Bully

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 08, 2021, 02:34:40 PM
Quote from: dmac07 on March 08, 2021, 10:22:42 AM
Tom Phillips anyone? Or was this weeks game just a one off? Cheap at 402k.

Seems he will clearly be back to being a full time wing/mid this year replace Smith who the Hawks lost. Average 90 in 2018 in his third season when playing as a mid. 24 now and entering his prime.

I believe he had a high number of CB's he attended. Mitchell and O'Meara to come back will see that drop. He should still be a decent option but 85-90 is what I'd expect

Can't believe people are rolling the dice on these unproven types, this year the forward line is pretty clear cut, no need to get cute.

IntegralX

Is it? Danger and Dusty are the only locks. Everyone else has question marks, then you’re getting into midpricers/exxy rooks.

Bully

Quote from: IntegralX on March 09, 2021, 09:28:56 PM
Is it? Danger and Dusty are the only locks. Everyone else has question marks, then you’re getting into midpricers/exxy rooks.

With Sidebottom back in the forwards & Dunkley more than likely cracking the century I don't think it's wise going for the speculative types. Throw in Marshall & Zorko & you have 6 players all capable of going large. If Bolton steps up there's another.

Not sold on Phillips, not sold on De Goey, not sold on Heeney after hearing what the community has to say. Therefore I'll be going with the guys who have been doing it for years.



Mat0369

Sidebottom has a calf which is a recipe for disaster when you're on the wrong side of 30. Dunkley is going to be a yo-yo with Beveridge saying last week his position wasn't safe and then praising him this week.

I personally don't think Danger is worth the coin. Zorko will play exclusively forward which will see him put up some stinkers and be an upgrade target.

Dusty is the one I feel the most comfortable with and I think there is a lot of value/rookies in the forward line so Ziebell at F2 is a goer.

Bully

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 10, 2021, 12:12:34 AM
Sidebottom has a calf which is a recipe for disaster when you're on the wrong side of 30. Dunkley is going to be a yo-yo with Beveridge saying last week his position wasn't safe and then praising him this week.

I personally don't think Danger is worth the coin. Zorko will play exclusively forward which will see him put up some stinkers and be an upgrade target.

Dusty is the one I feel the most comfortable with and I think there is a lot of value/rookies in the forward line so Ziebell at F2 is a goer.

I have a totally different take on the situation with all those players, Danger will be a hungry beast with the top ups, last chance saloon. If the decline kicks in it will be when the star recruits start to falter, but you can guarantee he will be switched on this season. Lock in a 100 average at the absolute worst.

Sidebottom doesn't have chronic calf problems yet, he's not Brett Deledio, he's still one of the fittest guys in the competition and he will revel in the uncontested football. Fewer rotations can only make him more valuable. Minumum 95 but I'd back him to crack the ton.

Dunkley is an angry man & will leave next year if he doesn't get the minutes, my gut tells me he will play as a midfielder. I might be wrong but this must have come up in negotiations. Dogs will want to keep him I suspect.

Zorko may play more up forward, still a wait and see. He rarely has a bad year though, the Lions are also flying, pretty safe bet IMO.


Mat0369

Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 12:44:52 AM
I have a totally different take on the situation with all those players, Danger will be a hungry beast with the top ups, last chance saloon. If the decline kicks in it will be when the star recruits start to falter, but you can guarantee he will be switched on this season. Lock in a 100 average at the absolute worst.

The retirement village at Geelong will want to keep guys fresh. While all the talk has been that the Cats will play Danger predominantly through the midfield, they will also want to make sure he is right for September. Coming off a short off-season where he was carrying an injury and the amount of bodies that the Cats can throw in the middle I feel they will give him in game rests like they did last year and play him forward for stretches, particularly if they have big leads. Yes he will have a decent average come the end of the season, but he is also priced more than Fyfe and Mitchell who will also be in the top handful of mids. I'd rather start one of those guys and grab Danger at a cheaper price point while utilising the forward rookies that we have at our advantage.

Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 12:44:52 AM
Sidebottom doesn't have chronic calf problems yet, he's not Brett Deledio, he's still one of the fittest guys in the competition and he will revel in the uncontested football. Fewer rotations can only make him more valuable. Minumum 95 but I'd back him to crack the ton.

No, but he will probably miss round 1 since they're a 2-3 week injury normally so put a line through him as a starter and he has to be an upgrade target

Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 12:44:52 AM
Dunkley is an angry man & will leave next year if he doesn't get the minutes, my gut tells me he will play as a midfielder. I might be wrong but this must have come up in negotiations. Dogs will want to keep him I suspect.

They also have a midfield that consists of Macrae, Bont, Libba, Smith, Lipinski, Treloar, Hunter and West. Smith and Lipinski will lock down the wing roles, Hunter looks to be playing majority forward along with West. Both of them will have spurts on the wing. Macrae, Bont, Libba and Treloar are going to get the majority of the CB set ups with Dunkley sprinkled in. He should still score well enough, but his coach is a headache for SC'ers which could cause your season to flop. I think he is one that is probably worth the risk vs the reward, but he won't be putting up the huge stats he did of a couple seasons ago when he played predominantly as a midfielder.

Quote from: Bully on March 10, 2021, 12:44:52 AM
Zorko may play more up forward, still a wait and see. He rarely has a bad year though, the Lions are also flying, pretty safe bet IMO.

He has scored well in that high half forward role in years past but he always puts up a clunker which inevitably sees his price drop significantly. He is an upgrade target that you should be able to get in the mid 400's range at some point.

Bully

Not suggesting you start all of them but I'll be aiming towards a midfield of Danger, Martin, Dunkley, Sidebottom, Marshall, Zorko.

That may change of course but the minimum for F6 should be 100. Don't reckon Phillips gets there, I'd probably have a stab at Bolton if a mid pricer was the only option although trying to pick a breakout player is a tricky business. Sometimes better to observe on the sidelines for a few rounds.

Wanderer

With Rayner out, more midfield minutes will open up for Zorko.

IntegralX

JDG attended 67% of centre bounces in the preseason. I imagine that goes down when Adams returns, but does that change anyone’s mind on him?

I’m currently rocking Butters at F1.

bkimm32

Quote from: Wanderer on March 10, 2021, 10:36:50 AM
With Rayner out, more midfield minutes will open up for Zorko.

Lol i was listening to a podcast yesterday, SuperCoach elites, and someone sent in asking this question (if Zorko would get more minutes now Rayner is out), they absolutely took the piss out of the guy asking the question and said they don’t play a similar role

It was at that very moment I stopped taking them seriously as proper SuperCoach analysis

Holz

Quote from: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 10, 2021, 10:36:50 AM
With Rayner out, more midfield minutes will open up for Zorko.

Lol i was listening to a podcast yesterday, SuperCoach elites, and someone sent in asking this question (if Zorko would get more minutes now Rayner is out), they absolutely took the piss out of the guy asking the question and said they don’t play a similar role

It was at that very moment I stopped taking them seriously as proper SuperCoach analysis

wonder what role they think each guy would play in the mid.

bkimm32

Quote from: Holz on March 10, 2021, 11:06:44 AM
Quote from: bkimm32 on March 10, 2021, 10:57:02 AM
Quote from: Wanderer on March 10, 2021, 10:36:50 AM
With Rayner out, more midfield minutes will open up for Zorko.

Lol i was listening to a podcast yesterday, SuperCoach elites, and someone sent in asking this question (if Zorko would get more minutes now Rayner is out), they absolutely took the piss out of the guy asking the question and said they don’t play a similar role

It was at that very moment I stopped taking them seriously as proper SuperCoach analysis

wonder what role they think each guy would play in the mid.

Idk but midfields midfield.

When one on baller goes down, it opens up time for another time come in.

Ringo

Quote from: Wanderer on March 10, 2021, 10:36:50 AM
With Rayner out, more midfield minutes will open up for Zorko.
Just watch Lions selection though. He may get mid time through rotations and if Ely Smith, Mattheson or CEY are brought in suggests he will be predominantly forward,  In saying that I have him F1 at the moment.

TexR74

Has anyone given any thought to Toby Greene?