WXV Semi Finals: Thunder v Destroyers, Cobras v Reindeers

Purple 77 · September 01, 2020, 08:08:19 AM

Hey finalists!

I'll formalise OP in coming day or two, but for now, I'll need all of you to submit a team in case you progress to the semi finals.

Semi Finals, AFL Round 16

Home Team	Away Team	Venue	Head-to-Head
Beijing Thunder	Dublin Destroyers	Beijing Olympic Park	6 v 4
Cape Town Cobras	PNL Reindeers	Newlands Cricket Ground	2 v 8

There will be a FULL LOCKOUT at the commencement of Richmond v Fremantle at 7.10pm AEST

YOU MUST NAME EIGHT ( 8 ) EMERGENCIES

Beijing v Dublin
Head-to-Head: 6 v 4
Last time they played (Round 16): Beijing Thunder (23.11.149) def Dublin Destroyers (22.6.138)
2020 Head-to-Head: 9 v 9
Purps' Takeaway: The Thunder feature again in my MATCH OF THE ROUND! Beijing really would have liked a free ride to the prelim, as Dublin shape up as a more than worthy opponent. In 2020, if Beijing & Dublin played each week, they'd have each won half the time. However, Dublin would have won the first 4 games, and Beijing has won 4 of the past 6... but not including last week. Dublin's timing of form has looked good, with 4 scores of 149+ in the past 6 weeks. But I do think they are still prone to a stinker... so it'll be interesting to see which Dublin turns up. I'll back Beijing, because surely Greale returns to that overpowering form?

Cape Town v PNL
Head-to-Head: 2 v 8
Last time they played (Round 10): Cape Town Cobras (20.8.128) lost to PNL Reindeers (20.10.130)
2020 Head-to-Head: 13 v 5
Purps' Takeaway: A fascinating match-up. Cape Town has clearly been the better team this year, as evidenced by more wins, more points scored, and a 13 v 5 h2h. But... look at the historical h2h, and the last time they played! PNL have Cape Town's measure: fact. And the really interesting part? 3 of PNLs 5 'wins' against Cape Town this year have come in the past 4 weeks, including last week. The pressure is on Cape Town entirely, where if we were to fairly reward effort, deserve to make the prelim this year. But this game is not fair. Not at all. I just have a feelin PNL get up!

Elimination/Qualifying
Semi Finals

We'll need all teams in the top 8 to submit teams for the Semis, in case they progress

AFL ROUND 15
Tue 1 Sep	Hawthorn	Adelaide
Tue 1 Sep	West Coast	Essendon
Wed 2 Sep	Richmond	Fremantle
Thu 3 Sep	Sydney	Melbourne
Thu 3 Sep	GWS	Carlton
Fri 4 Sep	Brisbane	Collingwood
AFL ROUND 16
Sat 5 Sep	North Melbourne	Port Adelaide
Sun 6 Sep	St Kilda	Hawthorn
Sun 6 Sep	Geelong	Essendon
Sun 6 Sep	Western Bulldogs	West Coast
Mon 7 Sep	Melbourne	Fremantle
Tue 8 Sep	Adelaide	GWS
Tue 8 Sep	Carlton	Sydney
Wed 9 Sep	Brisbane	Gold Coast

And don't forget reserves!

Three teams (Tokyo, New Delhi, Buenos Aires) have made Reserves finals but not the seniors.

Given the poor notice on my part, I will be naming your final XV based on form and your historical naming of players. If you would like to challenge my selection, I will entertain it.

Semi Finals, AFL Round 16

Home Team	Away Team	Venue
Yuzawa Yakuza	Shanghai Storm	Tokyo Olympic Stadium
Mumbai Elephants	La Plata Armada	Tata Stadium

Holz · September 01, 2020, 10:23:27 AM

Shannon Hurn, Robbie Tarrant, Grant Birchall, Mark O'Connor
Matt Crouch (CC), Trent Dumont, Rory Sloane, Josh P Kennedy
Todd Goldstein (CC)
Jack Gunston, Toby Greene, Dustin Martin, Justin Westhoff
Dyson Heppell, Brad Crouch

Marc Pittonet (R), Jack Reiwoldt (F), Ben Mckay (D), Brandon Starcevich (D/M), Lachie Schulz (F), Majak Daw (D) , Lachie Hosie (F), Tristan Xerri (F/R)

GoLions · September 01, 2020, 12:34:46 PM

Kate

Daniel Andrews, Callum Mills, Luke McDonald, Sam Collins
Mitch Duncan (C), Shaun Higgoat, Luke Shuey (VC), Sam Menegoat
Nank
The Papsmear, Bradstopher Ebert, Ben Ainsworth, Jaidyn Stephenson
Jack Bowes, Josh Battle

James Cousins, Ivan Soldo, Jake Carlisle, Shaun Burgoyne, Gryan Gryan, Mabior Chol, Dean Kent, Trent Rivers

Toga · September 01, 2020, 05:21:23 PM

BEIJING THUNDER:
D: Caleb Daniel, Bachar Houli, Heath Shaw, Tom Jonas
M: Lachie Neale (C), Dayne Zorko, Tom Rockliff, Brandon Ellis
R: Brodie Grundy (VC)
F: Jy Simpkin, Kane Lambert, Luke Breust, Daniel Butler
IC: David Swallow, Callan Ward

Emg: Daniel Howe, Josh Caddy, Max King, James Aish, Tom Cutler, Will Powell, Taylor Walker, Kyron Hayden

Ringo · September 01, 2020, 05:50:03 PM

D: Adam Saad, Blake Hardwick, Dylan Grimes, Brad Sheppard
M: Dom Sheed (VC), Jack Newnes, Jack Redden, Touk Miller ('C)
R: Timothy English
F: Liam Baker ,Jack Lukosius,Jack Higginsim Membrey
U: John Noble, Jared Polec
E: Bews, Spargo,Gardiner, Hind, O'Neill, Hartigan, McStay, Sweet

C: Touk Miller
VC: Dom Sheed

DazBurg · September 01, 2020, 11:14:55 PM

Parisian Nice Lyon Reindeers

D: Luke Ryan, Hunter Clark, Darcy Moore, Hayden Crozier
M: Zach Merrett, Jack Billings, Dylan Shiel, Bailey Smith
R: Sam Jacobs
F: Oscar Allen, Robbie Gray, Mitch Wallis, Ben Keays
U: Jackson Nelson, Paul Seedsman
E: Lachlan Murphy, Jack Madgen, Matthew Kennedy, Jack Lonie, Nathan Jones, Dougal Howard, Ben King, Darcy Cameron

C: Zach Merrett
VC: Dylan Shiel

Ringo · September 02, 2020, 10:10:15 AM

Quote from: Ringo on September 01, 2020, 05:50:03 PM
D: Adam Saad, Blake Hardwick, Jed Bews, Brad Sheppard
M: Dom Sheed (VC), Jack Newnes, Jack Redden, Touk Miller ('C)
R: Timothy English
F: Liam Baker ,Jack Lukosius,Jack Higginsim Membrey
U: John Noble, Jared Polec
E: Spargo,Gardiner, Hind, O'Neill, Hartigan, McStay,Cunningham, Sweet

C: Touk Miller
VC: Dom Sheed

Replacing Grimes with Bews

JBs-Hawks · September 02, 2020, 10:25:57 AM

Seoul

D: Nick Haynes, Lachie Weller, Christian Salem, Nathan Wilson
M: Clayton Oliver (C), Patrick Dangerfield (VC), Josh Kelly, Andrew McGrath
R: Ben McEvoy
F: Jonathon Ceglar, Charlie Dixon, Zac Fisher, Jake Riccardi
I: Ed Curnow, Will Setterfield
E: Liam Shiels, Marc Murphy, Zach Tuohy, Jamie Elliot, Bailey Scott, Darcy Fogarty, Liam Henry, Caleb Graham

upthemaidens · September 02, 2020, 07:27:21 PM

Pacific Islanders

DEF: Rory Laird, Michael Hurley, Bailey Williams, Liam Duggan
MID: Tom Mitchell (C), Marcus Bontempelli (VC), Andrew Gaff, Jarryd Lyons
RCK: Jarrod Witts
FWD: Devon Smith, Matt Taberner, Josh Jenkins, Peter Wright
UTL: Harry Perryman (Mid), Zac Bailey (Mid/Def)

EMG: Harrison Himmelberg(F), Aliir Aliir(D), Adam Tomlinson(M), Tom McCartin(F), Sam Day(F), Tim O'Brien(F/D), Zac Smith(R), Bailey J Williams(R/D)

Purple 77 · September 05, 2020, 04:58:50 PM

OP updated

Purple 77 · September 05, 2020, 05:36:34 PM

After Richmond & Collingwood players

Beijing really, really would have loved more from Grundy. But, it's not all bad, given Dusty had an absolute stinker for Dublin.

Cape Town... that's a disappointing start. But, it's still recoverable. PNL meanwhile would be seeing that Madgen potentially could form as a lifesaving late in yet!

	Beijing Thunder					Dublin Destroyers
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Caleb Daniel	0		0	D1	Shannon Hurn	0		0
D2	Bachar Houli	74		74	D2	Robbie Tarrant	0		0
D3	Heath Shaw	0		0	D3	Grant Birchall	0		0
D4	Tom Jonas	0		0	D4	Mark O'Connor	0		0
M1	Lachie Neale	0		0	M1	Matt Crouch	0		0
M2	Dayne Zorko	0		0	M2	Trent Dumont	0		0
M3	Tom Rockliff	0		0	M3	Rory Sloane	0		0
M4	Brandon Ellis	0		0	M4	Josh P Kennedy	0		0
R1	Brodie Grundy	104		104	R1	Todd Goldstein	0		0
F1	Jy Simpkin	0		0	F1	Jack Gunston	0		0
F2	Kane Lambert	0	DNP	0	F2	Toby Greene	0		0
F3	Luke Breust	0		0	F3	Dustin Martin	54		54
F4	Dan Butler	0		0	F4	Justin Westhoff	0		0
U1 (MID )	David Swallow	0		0	U1 (MID )	Dyson Heppell	0		0
U2 (MID )	Callan Ward	0		0	U2 (MID )	Brad Crouch	0		0
E1 (DEF MID)	Daniel Howe	0	0	0	E1 (RUC )	Marc Pittonet	0	0	0
E2 (MID FWD)	Josh Caddy	0	DNP	0	E2 (FWD )	Jack Riewoldt	92	0	0
E3 (FWD )	Max King	0	0	0	E3 (DEF )	Ben McKay	0	0	0
E4 (DEF )	James Aish	0	0	0	E4 (DEF MID)	Brandon Starcevich	0	0	0
E5 (MID )	Tom Cutler	0	0	0	E5 (FWD )	Lachlan Schultz	0	0	0
E6 (MID )	Wil Powell	0	0	0	E6 (DEF )	Majak Daw	0	0	0
E7 (FWD )	Taylor Walker	0	0	0	E7 (FWD )	Lachlan Hosie	0	0	0
E8 (MID )	Kyron Hayden	0	0	0	E8 (RUC FWD)	Tristan Xerri	0	0	0
C	Lachie Neale	0		0	CC	Matt Crouch	0		0
VC	Brodie Grundy	104		0	CC	Todd Goldstein	0		0
HA		0		0			0
		Total:	178	2			Total:	54	1

	Cape Town Cobras					PNL Reindeers
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Harris Andrews	0		0	D1	Luke Ryan	0		0
D2	Callum Mills	0		0	D2	Hunter Clark	0		0
D3	Luke McDonald	0		0	D3	Darcy Moore	69		69
D4	Samuel Collins	0		0	D4	Hayden Crozier	0		0
M1	Mitch Duncan	0		0	M1	Zach Merrett	0		0
M2	Shaun Higgins	0		0	M2	Jack Billings	0		0
M3	Luke Shuey	0		0	M3	Dylan Shiel	0		0
M4	Sam Menegola	0		0	M4	Bailey Smith	0		0
R1	Toby Nankervis	35		35	R1	Sam Jacobs	0		0
F1	Tom Papley	0		0	F1	Oscar Allen	0		0
F2	Brad Ebert	0		0	F2	Robbie Gray	0		0
F3	Ben Ainsworth	0		0	F3	Mitch Wallis	0		0
F4	Jaidyn Stephenson	37		37	F4	Ben Keays	0		0
U1 (MID )	Jack Bowes	0		0	U1 (DEF )	Jackson Nelson	0		0
U2 (DEF )	Josh Battle	0		0	U2 (MID )	Paul Seedsman	0		0
E1 (MID )	James Cousins	0	0	0	E1 (FWD )	Lachlan Murphy	0	0	0
E2 (RUC )	Ivan Soldo	50	0	0	E2 (DEF )	Jack Madgen	112	0	0
E3 (DEF )	Jake Carlisle	0	0	0	E3 (FWD )	Matthew Kennedy	0	0	0
E4 (DEF )	Shaun Burgoyne	0	0	0	E4 (FWD )	Jack Lonie	0	0	0
E5 (FWD )	Gryan Miers	0	0	0	E5 (DEF MID)	Nathan Jones	0	0	0
E6 (RUC FWD)	Mabior Chol	0	DNP	0	E6 (DEF FWD)	Dougal Howard	0	0	0
E7 (FWD )	Dean Kent	0	0	0	E7 (FWD )	Ben King	0	0	0
E8 (DEF MID)	Trent Rivers	0	0	0	E8 (RUC FWD)	Darcy Cameron	0	DNP	0
C	Mitch Duncan	0		0	C	Zach Merrett	0		0
VC	Luke Shuey	0		0	VC	Dylan Shiel	0		0
HA		0		0			0
		Total:	72	2			Total:	69	1

Purple 77 · September 08, 2020, 09:45:11 PM

With 2 AFL games remaining:

	Beijing Thunder					Dublin Destroyers
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Caleb Daniel	118		118	D1	Shannon Hurn	0	DNP	0
D2	Bachar Houli	74		74	D2	Robbie Tarrant	104		104
D3	Heath Shaw	105		105	D3	Grant Birchall	0		0
D4	Tom Jonas	48		48	D4	Mark O'Connor	42		42
M1	Lachie Neale	0		0	M1	Matt Crouch	148		148
M2	Dayne Zorko	0		0	M2	Trent Dumont	82		82
M3	Tom Rockliff	119		119	M3	Rory Sloane	105		105
M4	Brandon Ellis	0		0	M4	Josh P Kennedy	0		0
R1	Brodie Grundy	104		104	R1	Todd Goldstein	101		101
F1	Jy Simpkin	48		48	F1	Jack Gunston	67		67
F2	Kane Lambert	0	DNP	0	F2	Toby Greene	63		63
F3	Luke Breust	72		72	F3	Dustin Martin	54		54
F4	Dan Butler	86		86	F4	Justin Westhoff	0	DNP	0
U1 (MID )	David Swallow	0		0	U1 (MID )	Dyson Heppell	34		34
U2 (MID )	Callan Ward	0	DNP	0	U2 (MID )	Brad Crouch	105		105
E1 (DEF MID)	Daniel Howe	50		50	E1 (RUC )	Marc Pittonet	0	0	0
E2 (MID FWD)	Josh Caddy	0	DNP	0	E2 (FWD )	Jack Riewoldt	92		92
E3 (FWD )	Max King	0	DNP	0	E3 (DEF )	Ben McKay	76		76
E4 (DEF )	James Aish	108	0	0	E4 (DEF MID)	Brandon Starcevich	0	0	0
E5 (MID )	Tom Cutler	0	DNP	0	E5 (FWD )	Lachlan Schultz	72	0	0
E6 (MID )	Wil Powell	0	0	0	E6 (DEF )	Majak Daw	0	DNP	0
E7 (FWD )	Taylor Walker	48		48	E7 (FWD )	Lachlan Hosie	18	0	0
E8 (MID )	Kyron Hayden	0	DNP	0	E8 (RUC FWD)	Tristan Xerri	0	DNP	0
C	Lachie Neale	0		0	CC	Matt Crouch	148		74
VC	Brodie Grundy	104		0	CC	Todd Goldstein	101		51
HA		0		0			0
		Total:	872	11			Total:	1198	13

	Cape Town Cobras					PNL Reindeers
POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ	POS	Traditional	SCO	PEN	ADJ
D1	Harris Andrews	0	DNP	0	D1	Luke Ryan	115		115
D2	Callum Mills	0	DNP	0	D2	Hunter Clark	72		72
D3	Luke McDonald	84		84	D3	Darcy Moore	69		69
D4	Samuel Collins	0		0	D4	Hayden Crozier	36		36
M1	Mitch Duncan	100		100	M1	Zach Merrett	122		122
M2	Shaun Higgins	80		80	M2	Jack Billings	93		93
M3	Luke Shuey	0	DNP	0	M3	Dylan Shiel	69		69
M4	Sam Menegola	193		193	M4	Bailey Smith	103		103
R1	Toby Nankervis	35		35	R1	Sam Jacobs	127		127
F1	Tom Papley	0		0	F1	Oscar Allen	56		56
F2	Brad Ebert	0	DNP	0	F2	Robbie Gray	120		120
F3	Ben Ainsworth	0		0	F3	Mitch Wallis	75		75
F4	Jaidyn Stephenson	37		37	F4	Ben Keays	71		71
U1 (MID )	Jack Bowes	0		0	U1 (DEF )	Jackson Nelson	53		53
U2 (DEF )	Josh Battle	67		67	U2 (MID )	Paul Seedsman	0	DNP	0
E1 (MID )	James Cousins	106		106	E1 (FWD )	Lachlan Murphy	43		43
E2 (RUC )	Ivan Soldo	50		50	E2 (DEF )	Jack Madgen	112	DNP	0
E3 (DEF )	Jake Carlisle	0	DNP	0	E3 (FWD )	Matthew Kennedy	0	DNP	0
E4 (DEF )	Shaun Burgoyne	0	DNP	0	E4 (FWD )	Jack Lonie	79	DNP	0
E5 (FWD )	Gryan Miers	106		106	E5 (DEF MID)	Nathan Jones	0	DNP	0
E6 (RUC FWD)	Mabior Chol	0	DNP	0	E6 (DEF FWD)	Dougal Howard	100	DNP	0
E7 (FWD )	Dean Kent	90	0	0	E7 (FWD )	Ben King	0	DNP	0
E8 (DEF MID)	Trent Rivers	82		82	E8 (RUC FWD)	Darcy Cameron	0	DNP	0
C	Mitch Duncan	100		100	C	Zach Merrett	122		122
VC	Luke Shuey	0	DNP	0	VC	Dylan Shiel	69		0
HA		0		0			0
		Total:	1040	11			Total:	1346	15

Purple 77 · September 08, 2020, 09:53:16 PM

Both matches are delicately poised!

Cape Town know what the formula looks like. Assuming HGA of 35, the following players have to score 272 points for victory:

Samuel Collins (80 av)
Tom Papley (81)
Ben Ainsworth (77)
Jack Bowes (88)

They average 326... can the Cobras hold their nerve? We've seen this team choke hard in years gone by, have they put it behind them?

Despite the below from Holz to me in Discord 2 days ago

Quote
think dublin season over
so trade season starts

... Dublin are in a good spot. Assuming HGA of 48, Dublin are 278 with 2 extra played. Yes, Beijing still have Captain Neale waiting in the wings, and YES, if he scores his average he will single handedly chase down that margin, but... I'm starting to doubt the Thunder here. I think they've got the wobbles.

GoLions · September 08, 2020, 11:56:15 PM

flowerin flower

Holz · September 09, 2020, 11:01:42 AM

Quote from: Purple 77 on September 08, 2020, 09:53:16 PM

... Dublin are in a good spot. Assuming HGA of 48, Dublin are 278 with 2 extra played.

2 extra player and Captain played so its 278 with 3 extra player really.

need Neale to repeat his round 13 game and drop a 70