WXV Trade Confabulation 2020

[Purple 77]

Trade 49
Beijing trade: Max King, Tom Jonas, Pick 16 + Pick 30
Moscow trade: Blake Acres + Pick 20

Trade received 5 votes.

This means it passes, although overturnable by me.

The coaches felt that Acres is not worth what's being given up for him, and that he may falsely be assumed to be a fwd next year.

I confess, this has been a tough one to deliberate on. I must stress here, that my role is to see whether the coaches reasonings are compelling enough for me to overturn the result from a PASS to a FAIL.

The key arguements were:
- Acres will be a MID only;
- Acres and King have comparable value; and
- 1 or 2 elements need to be dropped by Beijing, namely Jonas + 30, Jonas + the pick upgrade or the pick upgrade + 30

1) I think we all accept Acres is a mid only next year. So tick.

2) This is an interesting one. King averaged 61 this year and it is accepted he is on an upward trajectory. Historically, Acres has fluctuated between 70 and almost 90, having been interrupted by injuries along the way. Whilst he does have upside, I think based on history this can reasonably be expected to temper or discount any expected upside, for the purposes of evaluating the trade. As such, I'm inclined to view this as a 61 fwd + expected improvement (5 years younger) FOR an 85 mid. I think they are reasonably around the mark, but I do lean slightly towards Acres, but only slightly.

3) Given my conclusions in 1) and 2), I also subscribe to the argument that there is 1 too many beads on the side of the scale, given I think it is reasonable to value King and Acres around the same mark.

Is the imbalance too much to neg the trade?

1 bead tipping the scale? No. 2 beads? In this case, yes. I believe that in a perfect world, Acres + 20 FOR King + 16 is sensible, and that Jonas + 30 are the two beads tipping the scale.

After much consideration, I'm opting to REJECT this trade.

I believe the fix is simple. Beijing is to remove a bead or two.

[kilbluff1985]

 smfh

its not just 12 for stef its stef and 24 for 12

[Purple 77]

Please advise, I've now extended the trade period deadline til tomorrow.

Finish date: Monday 7 December 8:00 pm AEDST

[iZander]

Hawks number 1 ruck brooksby for a pick upgrade

[upthemaidens]

#40+#53  for an upgrade

[Purple 77]

Christchurch Saints
Mexico City Suns
Moscow Spetsnaz
PNL Reindeers

still to vote

[upthemaidens]

But I want to draft now. 
   

[Purple 77]

All trades auto pass.

Draft won't start till at least Saturday, sorry

[RaisyDaisy]

As most of you know CD/Herald Sun released a bunch of 2021 positions today and I have now updated Lists By Position to reflect all of those changes

AFL Fantasy Twitter also provided a heap of positions, so I have scrolled through all their tweets and made all of those additional updates too

This should help with Trade Period 2 :)

If more tweets are made tomorrow with more positions - let me know

[kilbluff1985]

thanks RD

[Purple 77]

Thanks RD!



I have ambitions to start the draft today, so stay tuned everyone!

[RaisyDaisy]

https://dreamteamtalk.com/2020/12/12/2021-afl-fantasy-positions/

I've just gone through this and made all of the updates. Such a brutal and tedious task lol

I've probably missed a few, so check over your team, and if I have, just PM me

Thanks

[Hellopplz]

Beautiful RD, cheers :-* :-* :-*

[Purple 77]

For those playing at home

Beijing was forced to take on players which exceeded the maximum cap.

Given that they submitted a legal list lodgement, the directive I've given them is to reduce their cap to be under the minimum in TP2.

However, if Beijing is unfairly being taken advantage of, then I won't force them to do a trade they're not comfortable making.

This is a gentlemen's agreement, so lets be understanding. We'll see how it lands.

TP2 is now open. Have a nice Christmas everyone.

[Urbaninfinnity]

The rumours are true  :o

Choccy Neale can potentially be moved to try and alleviate our cap struggles.

If you want him you can make an offer, but it better be good.

Pretty much everyone else is available too, save for Milo, and probably Grundy because rucks.