Can anybody challenge the ruck GOATS?

[_wato]

People going ROB good luck to you. Smashed opponents with no #1 ruck and his scores aren’t scintillating.
I’m 100% in the camp if you aren’t going G&G you have to go completely down to a NN/Sauce/English/Naismith type and can’t get stuck in that 450-650k region because the rucks in there won’t get close to #1 or #2 and don’t allow cash gen or cash savings at the start of the year that makes it worth it.

[eaglesman]

Crikey! I just watched someone of the eagles intraclub.
People were saying Nic Nat is slow and not looking right.

Nic Nat looked super fit. He will definitely get his selection % up after next Thursday.

I’m trying to find the money to go from sauce to Nic Nat just off an intraday club match haha

[Mat0369]

It 100% has to be Nic Nat or Ceglar as your R2 if you're not picking Gawn. Nic Nat has ridiculous value and could average close to the ton with the mids at his feet. He is a perfect stepping stone to Gawn.

If you're confident Ceglar will be a worthy F6/F7 than the value is probably starting him as your R2 and moving him forward when you can afford Gawn with an upgrade trade.

My gut still says Nic Nat is the pick, it just depends on the strength of the rest of your side.

[ubeaut]

It 100% has to be Nic Nat or Ceglar as your R2 if you're not picking Gawn. Nic Nat has ridiculous value and could average close to the ton with the mids at his feet. He is a perfect stepping stone to Gawn.

If you're confident Ceglar will be a worthy F6/F7 than the value is probably starting him as your R2 and moving him forward when you can afford Gawn with an upgrade trade.

My gut still says Nic Nat is the pick, it just depends on the strength of the rest of your side.

Toying with NN at R2 and Ceglar at F4, Big Boy is worrying me tho
My team is much more balanced with less reliance on on field rookies with NN over Gawn...

[RoughRed]

It 100% has to be Nic Nat or Ceglar as your R2 if you're not picking Gawn. Nic Nat has ridiculous value and could average close to the ton with the mids at his feet. He is a perfect stepping stone to Gawn.

If you're confident Ceglar will be a worthy F6/F7 than the value is probably starting him as your R2 and moving him forward when you can afford Gawn with an upgrade trade.

My gut still says Nic Nat is the pick, it just depends on the strength of the rest of your side.

Toying with NN at R2 and Ceglar at F4, Big Boy is worrying me tho
My team is much more balanced with less reliance on on field rookies with NN over Gawn...

I started with GG combination but now am thinking that from a risk perspective I need to consider real coverage for Gawn

This means a very cheap R/F rookie ruck linking Ceglar in the Forwards

The same logic applies if I put up NN as R2 as I chase more options in prem selections for other positions

In either case I see 3 keepers G/G/C under option 1, and possibly 4 keepers G/NN/C plus another prem (mid) under option 2

The team looks more balanced under either scenario and in my mind is de-risked

[LordSneeze]

So after weekend 1 of matches I am no closer to making a decision on what I will be doing with the rucks.

Xerri looks like a great option as the bench ruck. He was very solid in the Marsh match, albeit against Sweet, showed he can be a presence up FWD, which isn't something Preuss was really able to do. There is a chance that he will get some games, but can't see him stringing a few together without Goldy being injured or having niggles. DPP is the bonus with it too if you want to take Ceglar in Fwd line. Right now I feel he is a better option that all other rookie rucks.

Ceglar looked good, very strong presence in the middle, I can see why he would become the number 1 ruck. I expect an 80-100 average, so I feel it would be suitable for a F6 and a way to minimize the ruck risk. If I was going here I would be seriously tossing up taking Sauce or NN.

Goldy is still a no for me, even though he was good, he was up against a 3rd string level ruck.

ROB is a no for me, he will be a 100 average most likely, but that isn't good enough for the price you would need to pay. Was rucking against Weiderman and really didn't shine like he should be.

[Mat0369]

My gut says Nic Nat. The fact he played his first pre-season game since 2016 still has me going towards Nic Nat.

I only caught the second half but Phillips also looked good. Sneaky option to average 95 with no threat to his job. He will likely be injured by Round 5 though

[IntegralX]

My gut says Nic Nat. The fact he played his first pre-season game since 2016 still has me going towards Nic Nat.

I only caught the second half but Phillips also looked good. Sneaky option to average 95 with no threat to his job. He will likely be injured by Round 5 though

Not sure why you're thinking NN. 58 from 51% game time is fine but you also have to remember NN plays ~70% most of the time. It really puts a cap on his ceiling.

[Mat0369]

I'm not going to say he goes 110. I just think he is the guy I line up at R2 and use him as that stepping stone to Gawn.

I was toying with Ceglar and using him to swing forward later, but my gut says pick Nic Nat so I'm sticking with it. The value is too good at that price.

[IntegralX]

I'm not going to say he goes 110. I just think he is the guy I line up at R2 and use him as that stepping stone to Gawn.

I was toying with Ceglar and using him to swing forward later, but my gut says pick Nic Nat so I'm sticking with it. The value is too good at that price.

Honestly I don’t see it. I’d rather pay the extra 40k for ROB who has a much safer floor and higher ceiling by virtue of simply playing more minutes (and also not having anyone behind him), or go all the way down to Jacobs and grab an extra premium elsewhere.

If you’re into injury prone rucks you’re better off looking at Kreuzer imo.

[eaglesman]

My gut says Nic Nat. The fact he played his first pre-season game since 2016 still has me going towards Nic Nat.

I only caught the second half but Phillips also looked good. Sneaky option to average 95 with no threat to his job. He will likely be injured by Round 5 though

Yup Nic Nat for sure.

Philips go watch the game he did well whenever Vardy was on the park who quite honestly looked pathetic. He will never get a game for the eagles in the real season ever again

[shaker]

If Gawn plays he stays if not it thickens the plot  ;)

[enzedder]

I'm strongly considering Marshall now even if Gawn plays R1.
I can see Marshall going 100 minimum average. Not sure what his max ave will be but reckon it will be healthy enough that the 100k saved by starting him could give a nice leg up. He'll get first crack and will score well. Ryder will chop him out but Marshall is mobile and fit enough to rest forward where he can still influence the play, take grabs and kick goals. He won't be scoreless in a forward role and I can't see him stuck on the bench with low TOG%.
Personally I don't think it will be a case of Grundy, Gawn daylight.
It will be interesting to see how Gawn's injury progresses. Hardly ideal preparation. He's been in the system since 2011 and he's had three full seasons... 2016, 2018 and 2019. Recently dependable.... but some history of injury nonetheless. The interuption Gawn has had gives one plenty of food for thought.

[shaker]

I'm strongly considering Marshall now even if Gawn plays R1.
I can see Marshall going 100 minimum average. Not sure what his max ave will be but reckon it will be healthy enough that the 100k saved by starting him could give a nice leg up. He'll get first crack and will score well. Ryder will chop him out but Marshall is mobile and fit enough to rest forward where he can still influence the play, take grabs and kick goals. He won't be scoreless in a forward role and I can't see him stuck on the bench with low TOG%.
Personally I don't think it will be a case of Grundy, Gawn daylight.
It will be interesting to see how Gawn's injury progresses. Hardly ideal preparation. He's been in the system since 2011 and he's had three full seasons... 2016, 2018 and 2019. Recently dependable.... but some history of injury nonetheless. The interuption Gawn has had gives one plenty of food for thought.

True I would like to see Gawn have a hitout in the 2nd Marsh game and if he dosen't I will be having doubts as well but if I don't start him spending 600K on someone does not leave to much extra to upgrade elsewhere , Ceglar helps the money and honestly his stats in the first Hawks game were pretty impressive just need to see what happens when McEvoy plays as well and seeing he only copped a corkie hopefully he will be back for their 2nd hitout.

[RaisyDaisy]

Looking like GG could be a POD for me  ;D