Top 5 forwards

[eaglesman]

Fair points but as long as I see him r1 in the marsh I’m going to take the gamble Mat.

100% agree with you regards the Gold Coast and greenwood. Wouldn’t have him ahead of swallow, fiorini Miller and probably Rowell as well. Other than those guys the other blokes mentioned greenwood pushes out of the midfield to other spots but wouldn’t see his midfield time increasing from his Adelaide days.

[frenzy]

Chaddddddddddd

Locked in for me at F2

:o..... speaking of ballsy, that would take a set.

[RaisyDaisy]

Certainly see the merit in Ceglar, but just don't see any reason to start him

If a ruck misses a game, and Ceglar is going well, then we can look to trade him in

Considering most of us are going to have F3 and F4 types that are pretty similarly priced to Ceglar anyway, the sideways/correction trade to him should be pretty easy

I know that McEvoy has been training with defence over summer, and Clarko seems keen to keep playing him there but I wouldn't hold my breath on Ceglar going 90+

In those final 3 games of last year he scored 110 vs Mumford which means nothing, followed by 83 (which isn't good enough) vs Witts and then he put up 94 vs Hickey which again is nothing to get excited about

[eaglesman]

Certainly see the merit in Ceglar, but just don't see any reason to start him

If a ruck misses a game, and Ceglar is going well, then we can look to trade him in

Considering most of us are going to have F3 and F4 types that are pretty similarly priced to Ceglar anyway, the sideways/correction trade to him should be pretty easy

I know that McEvoy has been training with defence over summer, and Clarko seems keen to keep playing him there but I wouldn't hold my breath on Ceglar going 90+

In those final 3 games of last year he scored 110 vs Mumford which means nothing, followed by 83 (which isn't good enough) vs Witts and then he put up 94 vs Hickey which again is nothing to get excited about

As I said on another post I understand what you say there. This is a trust your gut moment for me.
All I need to see is McEvoy lineup every game on defense in marsh and something from Ceglar and he is an absolute lock for me. Have him clearly over greenwood if r1 at hawks is confirmed

[AaronKirk]

Chaddddddddddd

Locked in for me at F2

:o..... speaking of ballsy, that would take a set.

Spent the last month of 2019 in the midfield with a 90.75 average with scores of 98, 91, 112 and 62. Funnily enough that 62 SC game v West Coast he got the 3 Brownlow votes - he had 6 clangers from his 28 disposals.

His DT scores in the same time were 88, 105, 128 and 106 - a 106.75 average

Ben Stratton on SEN the other week in an interview said he liked the way that Wingard was training in the midfield group and would like to see him spend even more time there in 2020. They need that additional polish with ball in hand in the mids and Wingard fits that mould.

His TOG% in the same time of 70% was the lowest it has been in his career so a good chance of improved TOG, more mid time and an increase in disposal numbers from the 26.5 per game average in those last 4 rounds as a mid.

Also averaged 6 tackles per game in those 4 games as a mid.

Definitely worth a gamble and is locked ATM in my side.

[frenzy]

Chaddddddddddd

Locked in for me at F2

:o..... speaking of ballsy, that would take a set.

Spent the last month of 2019 in the midfield with a 90.75 average with scores of 98, 91, 112 and 62. Funnily enough that 62 SC game v West Coast he got the 3 Brownlow votes - he had 6 clangers from his 28 disposals.

His DT scores in the same time were 88, 105, 128 and 106 - a 106.75 average

Ben Stratton on SEN the other week in an interview said he liked the way that Wingard was training in the midfield group and would like to see him spend even more time there in 2020. They need that additional polish with ball in hand in the mids and Wingard fits that mould.

His TOG% in the same time of 70% was the lowest it has been in his career so a good chance of improved TOG, more mid time and an increase in disposal numbers from the 26.5 per game average in those last 4 rounds as a mid.

Also averaged 6 tackles per game in those 4 games as a mid.

Definitely worth a gamble and is locked ATM in my side.

You reckon he's due for an up year, 51, 98, 79, 97, 80, 93, 88, 75 is like a yo-yo. You may well be right. Fwds are garbage this season.

[LordSneeze]

Unfortunately im with RaisyDaisy on the forwards this year. I just don't see many good options to start and will prefer to wait to see who looks like being top 10 as upgrade options.

Ive locked in Dusty as im confident on him and I haven't seen anything that would turn me off him yet.

Whitfield is priced at a point I don't feel is worth it to start and likely an upgrade option and Heeney has been injured already & unknown quantity on his position.

I don't like Steven (Hamstring Injury in Pre Season causes me concern he will be rested a bit) or Smith (I just don't see the hype around him as a long term keeper, I see at tops 90. but Ill have a plan to get him in R3 if he does start off well and look like a potential keeper.)

I don't feel I can go only 1 prem and 7 rookies so I need to take at least 1 other player in that next tier and that is my current debate. Right now Greenwood is locked in, but I have Wingard, Gray, Parish, Ceglar on a watchlist as potential other options.

[_wato]

Greenwood is so overrated. Such an average footballer who can't spread, isn't fast and doesn't know how to play if the game isn't slowed down to his level. Gonna get caught out unless it's the annual monsoonal weather three times a year.

Good in close, great tackler. Can go forward and be a presence. But otherwise ehhhhh

[Ringo]

I too am with Lord Sneeze and RD. There seems to be so many forward options but none really stand out apart from Dusty. By going light allows strength on other lines eg Roberton at D5 and 5 prem mids,  Also supports the GG combo as well. I currently have dev at F2 but that may change with a watch on Robbie Gray.

[RaisyDaisy]

I reckon Walters will be Top 5 and have another strong year average wise, but I just can't bring myself to pay that much for him

Whitfield is an interesting one - will be curious to see how or if there's any change with him once Ward comes in Round 5-6

[Ringo]

may have to reconsider Walters from my never again list.  Did not realize he has missed so few games over the last few years. However at $547k probably an upgrade target along with Whitfield when we see which forwards will be prem status.

[LordSneeze]

Im not considering Walters as I want to make sure he is still Prem and over the Injury issues before I decide if I will bring him in.
Have been burnt badly by him before. And a lot of other Freo players.

[Mat0369]

The only question with Whitfield is his body. He and Dusty are the two locks of all locks in the forward line. The intention was to play Whitfield permanently on a wing and as soon as he moved there he put up huge numbers. He also had a couple of injury games which makes him under priced.

The one to keep an eye on is Toby Greene. Apart from the brain fades and the unreliable body, he put up some monster numbers at the back end of last year with the injuries. I would expect those to take a dip when he moves forward, however he still averaged 96 a couple of years back playing as a permanent half forward.

[shaker]

Fwd's prems are a bit light on this year but can't believe some are not getting Whitfield people saying he's to fragile or to expensive he had a thigh or hip early in round 6 for a 45 then he busted his collarbone in round 11 for 65 I would be more concerned getting soft tissue boy Kelly than Whitfield his other scores 105 , 123 , 152 , 137 , 86 , 170 , 115 , 101 , 119 , 90 , 109 , 90 , 114 , 159 take out his 2 injury games that's 11 tons out of 14 matches can't see much wrong there him and Dusty locked.

[_wato]

Fwd's prems are a bit light on this year but can't believe some are not getting Whitfield people saying he's to fragile or to expensive he had a thigh or hip early in round 6 for a 45 then he busted his collarbone in round 11 for 65 I would be more concerned getting soft tissue boy Kelly than Whitfield his other scores 105 , 123 , 152 , 137 , 86 , 170 , 115 , 101 , 119 , 90 , 109 , 90 , 114 , 159 take out his 2 injury games that's 11 tons out of 14 matches can't see much wrong there him and Dusty locked.

Hahahah the classic denial post about injury games, ahh just take them out as if they never happened, it won't matter!!

2019 - 16 games (yuck)
2018 - 22 games (tick)
2017 - 15 games (yuck)
2016 - 19 games (ehh 3 rookie scores)
2015 - 21 games (tick)
2014 - 11 games (hahahaah)
2013 - 19 games (once again annoying)

So can't just say they were two innocuous injuries because he's had them his whole career! Also adding to the fact is that Ward played 1 game (hadn't missed a game in 4 years), Cogs missed 7, Jelly missed 8, and he jumped from two years at 97 and 99 to 111.

Natural progression? Yes potentially.
More opportunity? Most definitely.
Coincidence he scored well with a plague of injuries? For sure.
Will he still attract the tag? For sure.
Is his body still made of rubber? Yes.

With all things considered am I going to pay 600k for a full priced guy who has had one year at 110 (never before over 100), has missed 31 games in 7 years and will have points possibly taken away due to a fully fit Giants side being on the park?

HELLLLL NOOOOO I WON'T BE. But you can gladly pick him, I'll wait for the cash drop or injury :)))