WXV Rules Discussion 2019

Started by Purple 77, August 05, 2019, 06:45:04 PM

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Jroo

Sounds good to me Koop!

Haven't seen any discussion about this, what's happening with players that have been picked up during the year like Gibbons and Stack? Are they just going into the ND with all the other new draftees?

But going forward are we going to be brining in some sort of midseason draft/trade period?

Purple 77

Quote from: Jroo on August 07, 2019, 03:42:12 PM
Sounds good to me Koop!

Haven't seen any discussion about this, what's happening with players that have been picked up during the year like Gibbons and Stack? Are they just going into the ND with all the other new draftees?

But going forward are we going to be brining in some sort of midseason draft/trade period?

Ah yes, I should put this in an official channel eventually.

But today is not that day.

Yes, Stack & Gibbons and co will be in the nat draft.

Interested to hear discussion about midseason draft/trade period though!

fanTCfool

Midseason draft definitely has a lot of merit to it. I take it the draft pool would consist of the AFL midseason draft selections (your Snelling & Delucas), delisted players from WXV lists (to make room for midseason draft picks) and anyone who has joined an AFL list since the end of the WXV drafts (SSP). A good chance for struggling teams to grab a Stack, Gibbons for an instant boost, or grab a guy like Hayden McLean if you had the Swans ruck set. Yes from me.

Nige

Quote from: fanTCfool on August 08, 2019, 11:32:21 AM
Midseason draft definitely has a lot of merit to it. I take it the draft pool would consist of the AFL midseason draft selections (your Snelling & Delucas), delisted players from WXV lists (to make room for midseason draft picks) and anyone who has joined an AFL list since the end of the WXV drafts (SSP). A good chance for struggling teams to grab a Stack, Gibbons for an instant boost, or grab a guy like Hayden McLean if you had the Swans ruck set. Yes from me.
If a midseason draft is introduced, this is what it should be.

Really against the midseason trade period though, I just think it's fraught with danger.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: fanTCfool on August 08, 2019, 11:32:21 AM
Midseason draft definitely has a lot of merit to it. I take it the draft pool would consist of the AFL midseason draft selections (your Snelling & Delucas), delisted players from WXV lists (to make room for midseason draft picks) and anyone who has joined an AFL list since the end of the WXV drafts (SSP). A good chance for struggling teams to grab a Stack, Gibbons for an instant boost, or grab a guy like Hayden McLean if you had the Swans ruck set. Yes from me.

I like it

I assume draft order is based off ladder positions at the time?

Or is there something else that can be done so that not just the bottom teams benefit the most? Perhaps some sort of lottery?

Purple 77

Shall send a list of proposed rule changes later today :)

A reminder that I'll entertain rule proposals until next saturday morning, then it's locked until next year

DazBurg

hey purps just to clarify this here with the rule

12. Introduce mid-season draft
The pool would include all those players added to AFL lists via the SPP or mid-season AFL draft

that could affect the former player rule so if it passes may need to work out what we will do there

Purple 77

Quote from: DazBurg on August 18, 2019, 01:33:54 PM
hey purps just to clarify this here with the rule

12. Introduce mid-season draft
The pool would include all those players added to AFL lists via the SPP or mid-season AFL draft

that could affect the former player rule so if it passes may need to work out what we will do there

Former players would go onto the lists of their former club. This simply presents the opportunity for those former players to do so.

Salary cap would have no bearing either, that comes into play EOS

DazBurg

Quote from: Purple 77 on August 18, 2019, 01:40:14 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 18, 2019, 01:33:54 PM
hey purps just to clarify this here with the rule

12. Introduce mid-season draft
The pool would include all those players added to AFL lists via the SPP or mid-season AFL draft

that could affect the former player rule so if it passes may need to work out what we will do there

Former players would go onto the lists of their former club. This simply presents the opportunity for those former players to do so.

Salary cap would have no bearing either, that comes into play EOS

ahh so can take them in the mid season draft

does that mean that is simply your teams pick or you get that person plus a live pick?

(i know seems two bites of cherry but more point being so if a former player picked up in nat draft they walk onto a teams list but if picked up as spp need to use your mid season pick to grab him)

either way it is fine just easier to get set in stone now

Purple 77

Quote from: DazBurg on August 18, 2019, 01:50:23 PM
Quote from: Purple 77 on August 18, 2019, 01:40:14 PM
Quote from: DazBurg on August 18, 2019, 01:33:54 PM
hey purps just to clarify this here with the rule

12. Introduce mid-season draft
The pool would include all those players added to AFL lists via the SPP or mid-season AFL draft

that could affect the former player rule so if it passes may need to work out what we will do there

Former players would go onto the lists of their former club. This simply presents the opportunity for those former players to do so.

Salary cap would have no bearing either, that comes into play EOS

ahh so can take them in the mid season draft

does that mean that is simply your teams pick or you get that person plus a live pick?

(i know seems two bites of cherry but more point being so if a former player picked up in nat draft they walk onto a teams list but if picked up as spp need to use your mid season pick to grab him)

either way it is fine just easier to get set in stone now

I'd say it would be your teams pick. But that's a detail we can iron out later. It's the concept that I want to get up and running first :)

Holz

ill throw future 1st being traded.

would be fun and add some spice essentially punting on a team being worse then they think they would go. Imagine if Dublin traded its 1st rounder last year assuming pick 15-18 value. Would have got a steal.

Purple 77


Koop

If Flood/Attack gets scrapped as expected I'm going to laugh when it's brought up again when the teams up the top sink to the bottom.

Again, it's needed in an 18 team competition when teams have on average 22 playing players a week. Think about it logically.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Koop on August 19, 2019, 11:57:19 PM
If Flood/Attack gets scrapped as expected I'm going to laugh when it's brought up again when the teams up the top sink to the bottom.

Again, it's needed in an 18 team competition when teams have on average 22 playing players a week. Think about it logically.

The teams up the top can get more depth then

There's teams who don't use it at all, or just once or twice a year so if you don't have the depth then you shouldn't have this cop out luxury, especially when the ruck penalty is so heavy and the amount of available rucks vs def/fwd is so much lower

Anyway, it's been discussed in depth, so now we wait on the results

Koop

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on August 20, 2019, 12:16:21 AM
Quote from: Koop on August 19, 2019, 11:57:19 PM
If Flood/Attack gets scrapped as expected I'm going to laugh when it's brought up again when the teams up the top sink to the bottom.

Again, it's needed in an 18 team competition when teams have on average 22 playing players a week. Think about it logically.

The teams up the top can get more depth then

There's teams who don't use it at all, or just once or twice a year so if you don't have the depth then you shouldn't have this cop out luxury, especially when the ruck penalty is so heavy and the amount of available rucks vs def/fwd is so much lower

Anyway, it's been discussed in depth, so now we wait on the results

It should be treated irrespective of a ruck change (which I've voted in favour of, FYI.)