WXV Rules Discussion 2019

[PowerBug]

Will take the pick upgrade personally

[Purple 77]

... But you can't control how much points you score either? You draft a list based on probability of players scoring highly. You don't control how much they score,  just the probability of them scoring highly.

It's all luck. And how much your opposition scores is just amplifying that luck.

Makes for a boring game if you ask me.

[Purple 77]

No different to copping a loss with a better list every single week either. Otherwise we could just say whoever scores the most points wins the premiership, regardless if they win or not.

Apologies for bluntness, but I kinda feel strongly about that. Control is an illusion. Everything in this game is luck.

[DazBurg]

Yeah I say keep win and loss
If other comps do it differently more reason to stay unique
That is what sets worlds apart

[Ringo]

Yeah I say keep win and loss
If other comps do it differently more reason to stay unique
That is what sets worlds apart

The intent is to keep win loss but when teams are tied on win loss the debate is whether to use %  or points scored as the tiebreaker.

[Holz]

... But you can't control how much points you score either? You draft a list based on probability of players scoring highly. You don't control how much they score,  just the probability of them scoring highly.

It's all luck. And how much your opposition scores is just amplifying that luck.

Makes for a boring game if you ask me.

The win and losses are the random part of the game, Id say its not luck its probability. Having both the percentage and the loss amplifies the scenario.

if you dont like it im not too fussed but i reckon we have enough luck in it already, its only going to separate teams on equal points. If a team has 10 wins but 100 more points scored then another team on 10 wins then you would likely say that team is better and has just got unlucky with big scores from their oppostions and as such should be ranked higher.

[JBs-Hawks]

Definitely keep as is

[Purple 77]

All votes in!

(NDT did not vote for obvious reasons)

1. Leadership Groups
A) Retain 6
B) Remove 11

2. Regular season allowances to also be afforded in the finals series
This is referring to player restings and floods/attacks.
A) Keep contained to Home & Away season 13
B) Allow in finals series 4

3. Introduce 2nd Leadership Group amendment period on or around the eve of finals
A) No 10
B) Yes 7

4. Remove Flood/Attack Allowances?
A. No - keep these allowances 11
B. Yes - remove these allowances 6

5. Ruck OOP penalty
A) Retain current 50% penalty 14
B) Limit penalty to 20% (i.e. 80% of the OOP score will be allowed) 3

6. Introduce Hit-out threshold (20 hit-outs) that removes OOP ruck penalty if exceeded
For example, if Zac Dawson is played as an OOP ruck, and achieves 19 hit outs, he still receives the full OOP penalty. But if he gets 20 or more, he does not receive the OOP ruck penalty.

A. No - do not introduce hit-out threshold 9
B. Yes - introduce the hit-out threshold 8

7. Introduce Height threshold (198cm) that limits OOP ruck penalty to 25%
A. No - do not introduce height threshold 16
B. Yes - introduce height threshold 1

8. Award ruck status to players via a community vote at the beginning of the season, rather than by strictly abiding by Champion data classifications
A. No - abide by CD classifications 16
B. Yes - allow community to identify the AFL rucks 1

9. Add "Small" in addition to flood/attack, which requires an extra forward or defender in place of a ruck
A. No - do not add "Small" as a modifier option 15
B. Yes - add "Small" as a modifier option 2

10. Nominate ONE player at the beginning of the year as your 'pinch-hitter', who will only be penalised 25% instead of 50% if used as an OOP ruck
A. No - don't allow 12
B. Yes - allow 5

11. Extend trade window of draft picks only
See here for details
A. No 1
B. Yes 16

12. Introduce mid-season draft
The pool would include all those players added to AFL lists via the SPP or mid-season AFL draft
A. No 8
B. Yes 9

[DazBurg]

with the rules decided, still think with flood/attack i get it is a strategy
but think if it is used in case of a genuine oop that oop should have to count

should not be able to avoid a oop every where but ruck

people say we should trade for a ruck then you should trade for depth

[GoLions]

with the rules decided, still think with flood/attack i get it is a strategy
but think if it is used in case of a genuine oop that oop should have to count

should not be able to avoid a oop every where but ruck

people say we should trade for a ruck then you should trade for depth

Can't avoid oop in the mids either :

[DazBurg]

with the rules decided, still think with flood/attack i get it is a strategy
but think if it is used in case of a genuine oop that oop should have to count

should not be able to avoid a oop every where but ruck

people say we should trade for a ruck then you should trade for depth

Can't avoid oop in the mids either :

ture, though there usually is enough M/F etc to make up for that

any oop should cop the same penalty regardless of position is the point
without using a loophole to avoid it

[RaisyDaisy]

Ugh...

[Purple 77]

12 votes down, 5 to go.

This one has been decided:

2. Use overall points scored rather than percentage to separate teams on equal wins on the ladder
A. No - keep using percentage as the tiebreaker
B. Yes - use overall points scored as the tiebreaker

A - 10
B - 2



Teams still to vote:
- Dublin Destroyers
- London Royals
- Moscow Spetsnaz
- Seoul Magpies
- Tokyo Samurai

[Purple 77]

14 votes down, 3 to go, but all rules have now been decided.

1. Trading of future 1st round draft picks
A. Don't allow 9
B. Allow 5

2. Use overall points scored rather than percentage to separate teams on equal wins on the ladder
A. No - keep using percentage as the tiebreaker 12
B. Yes - use overall points scored as the tiebreaker 2

3. Allow Flood/Attack for strategy only i.e. it cannot be used to avoid an OOP
A. Retain current functionality 9
B. Enforce OOP penalty to 5th defender (forward) if only 3 forwards (defenders) were available.  5

[Purple 77]

All rules for the 2020 season have now been decided.