Brouch vs Libba vs Walsh - who goes first?

Started by juzztheball, May 06, 2019, 01:49:29 PM

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juzztheball

Libba
Pros: Massive ceiling, proven premo, rd 12 bye
Cons: Drop off last 2 weeks for no reason? Huge BE means he will be losing cash

Walsh
Pros: Scoring fine atm
Cons: Young and will inevitably burn out at some stage, relatively high BE, rd 14 bye

Brouch
Pros: Consistent, gets plenty of it
Cons: Getting heaps of the ball but not converting into big scores, rd 14 bye

Who should be the first to go??

Bully

Walsh goes first for me, rookie slowdown a 90% probability.

Brad Crouch I keep until round 14, have already laid out plans to get some of the middling round 14 guys up to super premos.

Libba a slight concern but ultimately I want him at M9.

RaisyDaisy

I'd be trading Brad Crouch first

Scoring has been extremely underwhelming, so use his value while he still has it and turn him into a true prem

Libba's past few weeks have been concerning, and he will drop cash, but still worth holding imo

Walsh is very consistent, will be the very last rookie I trade

AN1611

Walsh - As you mentioned rook with a high breakeven, will look to move him on in the next couple

Libba - don't have him but seems like there is a role change. Seems like dunkely is getting a bit more mid time.

Crouch - torn on this guy. Racks up 30 touches each week and just not translating to sc. Really frustrating but will hold till his bye

Bully

Just a few observations on Crouch, he's been averaging 30 disposals a game & has been good enough to earn Coaches votes yet CD rape him just about every week. This week a perfect case in point, was 81 at 3/4 time but ended up on 79, this despite the fact he picked up a decent amount of ball in the final term. How he was scaled down beggars belief but the nerds doing the scoring don't like his quick kicks out of congestion which don't necessarily turn the ball over but don't hit a target. I'm sticking firm & trusting my eyes here, some players get the rub of the green whilst guys like Crouch cop a raw deal. Hopefully this changes soon.

As for Walsh, he would have to join a select few if he is to justify keeping. O'meara the only like for like comparison but bear in mind O'Meara was effectively a second year player when he averaged 90 in his first year.

Holz

i got all 3

dropping Libba first, that 150 v GC is making him look good 3/7 games being 75 or less and dropping cash the fastest. 

Brad can go but i think he will score higher then libb, he is still finding alot of ball just his usage letting him down. 103 DT last 3 weeks compared to libba 56 average. means his floor is higher and also if he gets it together his ceiling is also higher.

Walsh will go soon as i can certainly see Brad warming up and then Walsh cooling down as a rookie who probably doesnt have the body to keep this up all year.

so Libba this week, Walsh next few weeks, Brad round 14 or keep him all year.


Jimmykidd

The oldest rule in supercoach - who has the highest B/E? Libba..

Another poor score and he will depreciate fast. Made 150k for the year and it's time to go. Was hoping to hold him for longer but not to be. If I had BCrouch I'd be content. Walsh hasn't given me any reason to trade him yet.

AN1611

Quote from: Bully on May 06, 2019, 02:27:56 PM
Just a few observations on Crouch, he's been averaging 30 disposals a game & has been good enough to earn Coaches votes yet CD rape him just about every week. This week a perfect case in point, was 81 at 3/4 time but ended up on 79, this despite the fact he picked up a decent amount of ball in the final term. How he was scaled down beggars belief but the nerds doing the scoring don't like his quick kicks out of congestion which don't necessarily turn the ball over but don't hit a target. I'm sticking firm & trusting my eyes here, some players get the rub of the green whilst guys like Crouch cop a raw deal. Hopefully this changes soon.

As for Walsh, he would have to join a select few if he is to justify keeping. O'meara the only like for like comparison but bear in mind O'Meara was effectively a second year player when he averaged 90 in his first year.


This.

As a midpricer in my team I watch him super close. The number of times his scoring is done poorly ridiculously.
Against the saints he had a GA where he kicked it to Tex, it was never added.

Another issue is he tends to move the ball backward from a contest, which seems to hamper his scoring a bit.

HappyDEZ

Quote from: AN1611 on May 06, 2019, 02:56:18 PM
Quote from: Bully on May 06, 2019, 02:27:56 PM
Just a few observations on Crouch, he's been averaging 30 disposals a game & has been good enough to earn Coaches votes yet CD rape him just about every week. This week a perfect case in point, was 81 at 3/4 time but ended up on 79, this despite the fact he picked up a decent amount of ball in the final term. How he was scaled down beggars belief but the nerds doing the scoring don't like his quick kicks out of congestion which don't necessarily turn the ball over but don't hit a target. I'm sticking firm & trusting my eyes here, some players get the rub of the green whilst guys like Crouch cop a raw deal. Hopefully this changes soon.

As for Walsh, he would have to join a select few if he is to justify keeping. O'meara the only like for like comparison but bear in mind O'Meara was effectively a second year player when he averaged 90 in his first year.


This.

As a midpricer in my team I watch him super close. The number of times his scoring is done poorly ridiculously.
Against the saints he had a GA where he kicked it to Tex, it was never added.

Another issue is he tends to move the ball backward from a contest, which seems to hamper his scoring a bit.
Yep the Crouches not copping any CD love at all atm & Fyfe got the rub of the green. Early he got tackled twice. Either could've been holding the ball but instead play on & even tho no disposal for Fyfe he did get 2 CPs to his tally. Mind you they did seem ridiculously lenient on holding the ball this round. Also whether half tackles get counted or not is lap of the gods. Seen Fyfe lay a 1/2 tackle will he get +4? Yep +8 he must've layed another 1/2 tackle I didn't even see. I wasn't happy cos my round was going to the dogs as it was so I was hoping Fyfe went low & the Crouches went big. Fantasy can def ruin the fun of watching when things are going poorly.

Bones Bombers

I have Sheed as well and I still think I'll trade Walsh first.....maybe.

The others can all have another week or two. They all have the ability to turn things around, take things up a level and become keepers.

Mat0369


TommyC


justaverage

Quote from: Jimmykidd on May 06, 2019, 02:38:17 PM
The oldest rule in supercoach - who has the highest B/E? Libba..

Another poor score and he will depreciate fast. Made 150k for the year and it's time to go. Was hoping to hold him for longer but not to be. If I had BCrouch I'd be content. Walsh hasn't given me any reason to trade him yet.

I'm going with this. Libba becomes Pendles for me this week

Goosey

Quote from: Holz on May 06, 2019, 02:32:23 PM
i got all 3

dropping Libba first, that 150 v GC is making him look good 3/7 games being 75 or less and dropping cash the fastest. 

Brad can go but i think he will score higher then libb, he is still finding alot of ball just his usage letting him down. 103 DT last 3 weeks compared to libba 56 average. means his floor is higher and also if he gets it together his ceiling is also higher.

Walsh will go soon as i can certainly see Brad warming up and then Walsh cooling down as a rookie who probably doesnt have the body to keep this up all year.

so Libba this week, Walsh next few weeks, Brad round 14 or keep him all year.

Excellent summary, +1 from me.

Fid

libba to either Fyfe or Bont

not sure which?