Round 4 Trades

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jvalles69

Quote from: Holz on April 12, 2019, 12:08:23 PM
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struggling this week with decisions.

I need to do one of these trades as im not going to play atkins on field.

Scott has another 50-100k left in him and he is only out for rest purposes and will most likely be back in next week.

Greene is a massive liability and will be a major risk all year if you keep him so he has to go IMO. I don't know your team, but I would trade him to a position in your team that needs the most structural fixing, which this year is either defence or fwds. If defence you need to have at least Lloyd or Whitfield, and if fwd you need at least Kelly (I am assuming you have Danger).

Is there some way you can avoid playing Atkins by getting Kelly in for Greene and using Kelly's DPP, if you have a better rookie on the bench in fwd than Atkins that is?
I have no DPP so i have to bring in a mid to avoid atkins.

I ended up going Scott Greene to Schultz Macrae pulled the trigger as i was going crazy.

thing with Scott is he really has had 1 good quarter and apart from that has been pretty average. He will be back next week but when you can get in a super premo you probably should. Macrae will likely be sub 600k at some point but if he can keep up 120+ then having him in the squad is key, especially if he drops 170 which he is capable of.

So why didn't you start with Macrae?

i wasn't convinced he would pump out 120+ before round 1.

and i started Dusty and Oliver who i thought would come close for alot less.

Adapt to new information

Cool, fair call, I didn't start with him either, but not unhappy with my team, he'll come in at some stage, Oliver the biggest let down so far.

_wato

Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Crazy trading Drew, he still has a negative BE, you are wasting just about all your capital from the Libba trade & for a player who may or may not be a keeper. I like Worpel but how many second year mids go on to average 95+? Oliver......................O'Meara..................Cripps.........................now I'm struggling

Why? Positive BE next week with a 76 assuming he scores that. Complete role change now, hardly attended any CB's on the weekend. He is no good as a forward plodder. He's 200k, might make another 60k but gotta jump off early sometime and Worp is cheap, 420k for a possible top 10 forward. And no Titch, no Shiels, no Burgoyne currently, Cousins is their 3rd best mid currently, he has scope to do well. Contested ball magnet and clearance gun.

I'll add you Jelwood, Macrae, Ollie Wines, Nat Fyfe, Zorko and the list could go on. A lot of guys hit the high 80's mark so it's not unreasonable to think he can hit 90+ with relative ease, his scope to score well is there due to such an increased opportunity. I'd take a 95 for 420k.

Bully

Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Crazy trading Drew, he still has a negative BE, you are wasting just about all your capital from the Libba trade & for a player who may or may not be a keeper. I like Worpel but how many second year mids go on to average 95+? Oliver......................O'Meara..................Cripps.........................now I'm struggling

Why? Positive BE next week with a 76 assuming he scores that. Complete role change now, hardly attended any CB's on the weekend. He is no good as a forward plodder. He's 200k, might make another 60k but gotta jump off early sometime and Worp is cheap, 420k for a possible top 10 forward. And no Titch, no Shiels, no Burgoyne currently, Cousins is their 3rd best mid currently, he has scope to do well. Contested ball magnet and clearance gun.

I'll add you Jelwood, Macrae, Ollie Wines, Nat Fyfe, Zorko and the list could go on. A lot of guys hit the high 80's mark so it's not unreasonable to think he can hit 90+ with relative ease, his scope to score well is there due to such an increased opportunity. I'd take a 95 for 420k.

Up to you but Drew is projected to make 40k this week.

Keeper27

made a mistake...  >:(
thought i could still reverse trades

just wanted to see what my team was like with Neale + Marshall.... balta + fyfe out

_wato

Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Crazy trading Drew, he still has a negative BE, you are wasting just about all your capital from the Libba trade & for a player who may or may not be a keeper. I like Worpel but how many second year mids go on to average 95+? Oliver......................O'Meara..................Cripps.........................now I'm struggling

Why? Positive BE next week with a 76 assuming he scores that. Complete role change now, hardly attended any CB's on the weekend. He is no good as a forward plodder. He's 200k, might make another 60k but gotta jump off early sometime and Worp is cheap, 420k for a possible top 10 forward. And no Titch, no Shiels, no Burgoyne currently, Cousins is their 3rd best mid currently, he has scope to do well. Contested ball magnet and clearance gun.

I'll add you Jelwood, Macrae, Ollie Wines, Nat Fyfe, Zorko and the list could go on. A lot of guys hit the high 80's mark so it's not unreasonable to think he can hit 90+ with relative ease, his scope to score well is there due to such an increased opportunity. I'd take a 95 for 420k.

Up to you but Drew is projected to make 40k this week.

I understand that completely. But get a forward keeper, probably get two keepers out of the trade with Libba as well. Ditch Dusty and a rookie. Hold Greene who is a forward keeper if he gets his body right. Big if. But that's the risk.

I would rather that than trade Greene to Boak and field a rookie during the meantime.

Really it's Worp + Greene v Boak + Drew.

Option 1 is much much much better.

Bully

Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Crazy trading Drew, he still has a negative BE, you are wasting just about all your capital from the Libba trade & for a player who may or may not be a keeper. I like Worpel but how many second year mids go on to average 95+? Oliver......................O'Meara..................Cripps.........................now I'm struggling

Why? Positive BE next week with a 76 assuming he scores that. Complete role change now, hardly attended any CB's on the weekend. He is no good as a forward plodder. He's 200k, might make another 60k but gotta jump off early sometime and Worp is cheap, 420k for a possible top 10 forward. And no Titch, no Shiels, no Burgoyne currently, Cousins is their 3rd best mid currently, he has scope to do well. Contested ball magnet and clearance gun.

I'll add you Jelwood, Macrae, Ollie Wines, Nat Fyfe, Zorko and the list could go on. A lot of guys hit the high 80's mark so it's not unreasonable to think he can hit 90+ with relative ease, his scope to score well is there due to such an increased opportunity. I'd take a 95 for 420k.

Up to you but Drew is projected to make 40k this week.

I understand that completely. But get a forward keeper, probably get two keepers out of the trade with Libba as well. Ditch Dusty and a rookie. Hold Greene who is a forward keeper if he gets his body right. Big if. But that's the risk.

I would rather that than trade Greene to Boak and field a rookie during the meantime.

Really it's Worp + Greene v Boak + Drew.

Option 1 is much much much better.

To be honest I prefer the second suggestion.

_wato

Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Crazy trading Drew, he still has a negative BE, you are wasting just about all your capital from the Libba trade & for a player who may or may not be a keeper. I like Worpel but how many second year mids go on to average 95+? Oliver......................O'Meara..................Cripps.........................now I'm struggling

Why? Positive BE next week with a 76 assuming he scores that. Complete role change now, hardly attended any CB's on the weekend. He is no good as a forward plodder. He's 200k, might make another 60k but gotta jump off early sometime and Worp is cheap, 420k for a possible top 10 forward. And no Titch, no Shiels, no Burgoyne currently, Cousins is their 3rd best mid currently, he has scope to do well. Contested ball magnet and clearance gun.

I'll add you Jelwood, Macrae, Ollie Wines, Nat Fyfe, Zorko and the list could go on. A lot of guys hit the high 80's mark so it's not unreasonable to think he can hit 90+ with relative ease, his scope to score well is there due to such an increased opportunity. I'd take a 95 for 420k.

Up to you but Drew is projected to make 40k this week.

I understand that completely. But get a forward keeper, probably get two keepers out of the trade with Libba as well. Ditch Dusty and a rookie. Hold Greene who is a forward keeper if he gets his body right. Big if. But that's the risk.

I would rather that than trade Greene to Boak and field a rookie during the meantime.

Really it's Worp + Greene v Boak + Drew.

Option 1 is much much much better.

To be honest I prefer the second suggestion.

Don’t understand why when Drew will be back to pegging 50’s and Boak won’t continue this ultra scoring, he’s not a 34 disposal a game player. Worp should score along at 95ish and Greene fit is 90+, GWS have a dream run coming up.

Bully

Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:36:18 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Crazy trading Drew, he still has a negative BE, you are wasting just about all your capital from the Libba trade & for a player who may or may not be a keeper. I like Worpel but how many second year mids go on to average 95+? Oliver......................O'Meara..................Cripps.........................now I'm struggling

Why? Positive BE next week with a 76 assuming he scores that. Complete role change now, hardly attended any CB's on the weekend. He is no good as a forward plodder. He's 200k, might make another 60k but gotta jump off early sometime and Worp is cheap, 420k for a possible top 10 forward. And no Titch, no Shiels, no Burgoyne currently, Cousins is their 3rd best mid currently, he has scope to do well. Contested ball magnet and clearance gun.

I'll add you Jelwood, Macrae, Ollie Wines, Nat Fyfe, Zorko and the list could go on. A lot of guys hit the high 80's mark so it's not unreasonable to think he can hit 90+ with relative ease, his scope to score well is there due to such an increased opportunity. I'd take a 95 for 420k.

Up to you but Drew is projected to make 40k this week.

I understand that completely. But get a forward keeper, probably get two keepers out of the trade with Libba as well. Ditch Dusty and a rookie. Hold Greene who is a forward keeper if he gets his body right. Big if. But that's the risk.

I would rather that than trade Greene to Boak and field a rookie during the meantime.

Really it's Worp + Greene v Boak + Drew.

Option 1 is much much much better.

To be honest I prefer the second suggestion.

Don’t understand why when Drew will be back to pegging 50’s and Boak won’t continue this ultra scoring, he’s not a 34 disposal a game player. Worp should score along at 95ish and Greene fit is 90+, GWS have a dream run coming up.

Boak a much better shot at being a top 6 forward than Worpel, his BE is also low so good time to pounce. Drew I would hold for that second price rise, then possible trade for Clarke next week & pocket 90k. Not convinced Worpel will average 95 this year.

david17

Westhoff --> Rozee
Scott --> Libba

Havnt used any trades yet people gonna say crazy getting Rozee you have misses the boat still prob gonna make another 200k and Westhoff is doing my head in this is gonna prob be a bad trade or hopefully it will pay off

Wanderer

Quote from: david17 on April 12, 2019, 01:45:52 PM
Westhoff --> Rozee
Scott --> Libba

Havnt used any trades yet people gonna say crazy getting Rozee you have misses the boat still prob gonna make another 200k and Westhoff is doing my head in this is gonna prob be a bad trade or hopefully it will pay off

Rozee is averaging 70 in his last 5 games including the 5 goal 116 point game last week. He has scored under 50 two out of 5 games, albeit pre-season matches. I'm not saying don't do it, but seems a waste of trade.

Can you do Westhoff to Libba somehow and wait until next week to see if Scott plays and then do Scott to Stack? Also, if you don't have T.Kelly, can you just go Westhoff to Kelly?

david17

Quote from: Wanderer on April 12, 2019, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: david17 on April 12, 2019, 01:45:52 PM
Westhoff --> Rozee
Scott --> Libba

Havnt used any trades yet people gonna say crazy getting Rozee you have misses the boat still prob gonna make another 200k and Westhoff is doing my head in this is gonna prob be a bad trade or hopefully it will pay off

Rozee is averaging 70 in his last 5 games including the 5 goal 116 point game last week. He has scored under 50 two out of 5 games, albeit pre-season matches. I'm not saying don't do it, but seems a waste of trade.

Can you do Westhoff to Libba somehow and wait until next week to see if Scott plays and then do Scott to Stack? Also, if you don't have T.Kelly, can you just go Westhoff to Kelly?
Quote from: Wanderer on April 12, 2019, 01:58:48 PM
Quote from: david17 on April 12, 2019, 01:45:52 PM
Westhoff --> Rozee
Scott --> Libba

Havnt used any trades yet people gonna say crazy getting Rozee you have misses the boat still prob gonna make another 200k and Westhoff is doing my head in this is gonna prob be a bad trade or hopefully it will pay off

Rozee is averaging 70 in his last 5 games including the 5 goal 116 point game last week. He has scored under 50 two out of 5 games, albeit pre-season matches. I'm not saying don't do it, but seems a waste of trade.

Can you do Westhoff to Libba somehow and wait until next week to see if Scott plays and then do Scott to Stack? Also, if you don't have T.Kelly, can you just go Westhoff to Kelly?

Can go Westhoff to Kelly then have to play either Atkins or Gibbons cant go Hoff to Libba dont have dpp to do it

AN1611

Got Fyfe on the pine for this week.
With Scott and gibbons (possibly)out, this leaves only Atkins to cover Fyfe
Considering Gibbons to Stack.
Surely he holds his spot for a decent stretch of games

quinny88

Quote from: AN1611 on April 12, 2019, 02:47:00 PM
Got Fyfe on the pine for this week.
With Scott and gibbons (possibly)out, this leaves only Atkins to cover Fyfe
Considering Gibbons to Stack.
Surely he holds his spot for a decent stretch of games

Stack is playing off half back and short is out for 8 weeks so as long as he plays well enough he will stay in the side

_wato

Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:42:45 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:36:18 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:28:45 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:23:48 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:20:39 PM
Quote from: _wato on April 12, 2019, 12:11:32 PM
Quote from: Bully on April 12, 2019, 12:04:38 PM
Crazy trading Drew, he still has a negative BE, you are wasting just about all your capital from the Libba trade & for a player who may or may not be a keeper. I like Worpel but how many second year mids go on to average 95+? Oliver......................O'Meara..................Cripps.........................now I'm struggling

Why? Positive BE next week with a 76 assuming he scores that. Complete role change now, hardly attended any CB's on the weekend. He is no good as a forward plodder. He's 200k, might make another 60k but gotta jump off early sometime and Worp is cheap, 420k for a possible top 10 forward. And no Titch, no Shiels, no Burgoyne currently, Cousins is their 3rd best mid currently, he has scope to do well. Contested ball magnet and clearance gun.

I'll add you Jelwood, Macrae, Ollie Wines, Nat Fyfe, Zorko and the list could go on. A lot of guys hit the high 80's mark so it's not unreasonable to think he can hit 90+ with relative ease, his scope to score well is there due to such an increased opportunity. I'd take a 95 for 420k.

Up to you but Drew is projected to make 40k this week.

I understand that completely. But get a forward keeper, probably get two keepers out of the trade with Libba as well. Ditch Dusty and a rookie. Hold Greene who is a forward keeper if he gets his body right. Big if. But that's the risk.

I would rather that than trade Greene to Boak and field a rookie during the meantime.

Really it's Worp + Greene v Boak + Drew.

Option 1 is much much much better.

To be honest I prefer the second suggestion.

Don’t understand why when Drew will be back to pegging 50’s and Boak won’t continue this ultra scoring, he’s not a 34 disposal a game player. Worp should score along at 95ish and Greene fit is 90+, GWS have a dream run coming up.

Boak a much better shot at being a top 6 forward than Worpel, his BE is also low so good time to pounce. Drew I would hold for that second price rise, then possible trade for Clarke next week & pocket 90k. Not convinced Worpel will average 95 this year.

Most definitely is but he's also a 100k more. And the need for Worp this week is to ultimately cover for Greene who's out as I believe Greene is back next week. So really making an upgrade next week with Greene back without actually making 'an upgrade' so to speak.

I'm convinced he can.

Game 1 - 27 touches, 12 contested, 6 clearances, 2 goals and still had 7 clangers for 110sc.
Game 2 - 25 touches, 11 contested, 7 clearances, 5 clangers and scored 92
Game 3 - 27 touches, 13 contested, 8 clearances, 4 clangers at 77% and scored 87. Mind you no tackles or marks and he took 9 combined for both cats in the first 2 weeks.

Those CP and clearance numbers bode very well. If he can improve on tackle and mark numbers that last game is easily 100+.
Averaging a healthy 26 touches too which is awesome. Don't see why he slides.

Best thing about Worp is that I think he has a really good floor. Often with forwards you see lots of inconsistencies. If I can get 85 minimum every week with the odd 110 I'm happy for 420k.

_wato

Other option I'm considering is Marshall IN via Burgess.

Crisp, ZWill, B SMith, Moore, 2 of Scrim/Clark/Duursma

Danger Heeney Marshall Greene Drew Setters Pett Pahka