Isaac Heeney

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crowls

Quote from: frenzy on May 10, 2019, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: crowls on May 10, 2019, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: frenzy on May 10, 2019, 02:53:28 PM
$511k with a BE of 158 and no Buddy again this week.  8)
yes going to do a dusty with this bloke trade him out and back in in the same season.   Would like to see the swans rest him for two/three weeks (assuming he scores <80 this week) and then i bring him during the byes.

Lol, there's good money to be saved doing this with Danger. The bottom should fall out his price aswell. Something like a danger to fyfe sideways this week while everybody parks him on the bench. Then a RO'B sideways to danger in a couple weeks when he bottoms out. If Danger plays this week, he'll be playing sore and this will show in $.
normally it is not worth the trades.   good for those that didnt start him.  I am concerned about him playing sore and getting another partial game score out of him.  playing late can't really loophole him either. 

js19

Quote from: crowls on May 10, 2019, 05:06:07 PM
Quote from: frenzy on May 10, 2019, 04:02:03 PM
Quote from: crowls on May 10, 2019, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: frenzy on May 10, 2019, 02:53:28 PM
$511k with a BE of 158 and no Buddy again this week.  8)
yes going to do a dusty with this bloke trade him out and back in in the same season.   Would like to see the swans rest him for two/three weeks (assuming he scores <80 this week) and then i bring him during the byes.

Lol, there's good money to be saved doing this with Danger. The bottom should fall out his price aswell. Something like a danger to fyfe sideways this week while everybody parks him on the bench. Then a RO'B sideways to danger in a couple weeks when he bottoms out. If Danger plays this week, he'll be playing sore and this will show in $.
normally it is not worth the trades.   good for those that didnt start him.  I am concerned about him playing sore and getting another partial game score out of him.  playing late can't really loophole him either.

Late game is the best for looping the backups though...

I can E a fwd and a mid, and with DPP and Kelly in the side can pick and chose which one to keep for Danger. As a third option can throw Atkins on if the other two both stink it up.

If he plays, everyone gets his score anyways, good or bad, so won’t make much of a difference

jbjimmyjb

Another horrible score (64).
If he didn't kick a goal and CD weren't very generous with their definition of a 'tackle', he would've scraped 40.
Franklin out didn't even have an effect on him tonight, he played 80% mid time, just always seemed to be in the wrong places.
There must be some truth to those ankle injury rumours because he's not looking like himself.

I still think owners just have to hold; similar situation to Dangerfield, everyone knows that 100% fit Issac Heeney is a top 8 fwd, so most likely we'll have to get him back in later in the year particularly with a lack of other fwd options.

js19

Heeney will be under $470k, with a BE around the 150 mark next week...!

Will be a great pickup in the low $400s when/if he finds some form

Ricochet

and that's how quickly things can turn

sammy123

Holding and will only trade if i can with an end of year luxary trade

enzedder

Since trading Heeney>Daniel (@ $111k price difference) and Witherden>Lloyd before R3 I have netted an additional 165 points to date as a result of the double trade. Admittedly most of those have been through the Lloyd/Witherden difference but at this point I'm glad I have Daniel over Heeney. One is looking like a top6 fwd and the other looks shaky. Since my trade Heeney has gone: 137, 130, 98, 74, 68, 64 vs Daniel: 96, 93, 100, 102, 113 & ? Daniel only needs a 67 today to break even with Heeney over that period. After this round Daniel will be worth more than Heeney as well, so any Heeney to Daniel traders will need to pay up albeit marginally, rather than pocket 111k as I did in R3.

The lols at the traders have dried up.

Personally I think Heeney will turn it around. He's too good not to. When he bottoms out I'll consider bringing him in if he shows something. If not, I leave him. Not bothered.

no eye deer


North Melbournes Finest

Traded Heeney to Kelly, Heeney proceeded with a 130 and Kelly a 39. Finally starting to recover the points!

dmac07

When I have a full premium side, and am not fielding Drew, Ross, Duursma et al, theb I can worry about Heeney if he is still an issue.

Be alright if you didnt have him, but not worth trading out someone, then back in cause his form turns. I have full confidence he can return to a top 5 fwd once he is right. If he starts missing games I'll reconsider.


LaHug

Last two years, I've finished top 0-1% by doing traditional guns & rookies with only a couple of mid pricers at most. I didn't trade out premiums (only one that really burned me was Billings who I held until he was dropped). Basically, I did well by playing the "traditional" strategy (and making the right premium picks).

This year, the play was clearly midpricers and trading hard. I've been burned by picking the wrong premiums but burned a lot more by not sideways trading them early. Crap year for me but great for SuperCoach going forward. Goodbye to vanilla teams and strategies!

imjusflexin

Quote from: LaHug on May 11, 2019, 12:56:09 PM
Last two years, I've finished top 0-1% by doing traditional guns & rookies with only a couple of mid pricers at most. I didn't trade out premiums (only one that really burned me was Billings who I held until he was dropped). Basically, I did well by playing the "traditional" strategy (and making the right premium picks).

This year, the play was clearly midpricers and trading hard. I've been burned by picking the wrong premiums but burned a lot more by not sideways trading them early. Crap year for me but great for SuperCoach going forward. Goodbye to vanilla teams and strategies!
You say that but almost every team ranked top 1000 is pretty damn similar. The only mid pricers they took were players like Brodie Smith & Zac Williams who were far from left field, and cash cows like ROB who almost everyone was keen for but not everyone could jump on. Most of the midfield mid-pricers haven't really panned out long term except arguably Libba & Rockliff.

There'll also be a lot of movement around the byes.

crowls

Quote from: LaHug on May 11, 2019, 12:56:09 PM
Last two years, I've finished top 0-1% by doing traditional guns & rookies with only a couple of mid pricers at most. I didn't trade out premiums (only one that really burned me was Billings who I held until he was dropped). Basically, I did well by playing the "traditional" strategy (and making the right premium picks).

This year, the play was clearly midpricers and trading hard. I've been burned by picking the wrong premiums but burned a lot more by not sideways trading them early. Crap year for me but great for SuperCoach going forward. Goodbye to vanilla teams and strategies!
playing the long game LH pretty sure GnR is the correct approach.  who have been successful midpricers - libba, moore, Bsmith,    not that many -  sheed 50/50 i traded him a couple of rounds ago for 50K profit so not really successful.  Still have B Crouch and it is hurting?      Successes - Boak, starting Whitfield (and now that's stuffed) squeezed out Merrett preseason to get in Brayshaw and Sheed.  I know which I want now,  merrett and rookie.

LaHug

Good points guys. I guess I took the wrong midpricer in Crouch but Libba, Williams, Smith all worked out to some extent. Rocky over Crouch would've been the go.

Brayshaw not really a midpricer, more a slightly underpriced premium that ended up just not being a premium at all. But I could've had a forward premium instead of Greene and a better back premium than Witherden had I avoided Brayshaw so that would've been the go. I guess it comes down to just making the wrong premium selections and I'm overthinking things now :P