Correctional trades

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js19

Quote from: crowls on March 30, 2019, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 29, 2019, 11:28:26 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on March 29, 2019, 11:26:00 PM
Anyone worried about heeney?

I'd be concerned if I had him. Looks sharp, but just not near the action enough.
t mitchell deja vu anybody?  we may want him on the ball, horse has a bigger picture in mind.

I guess the difference is that Titch was out of favour all together compared to other mids, and can't really play anywhere else, whilst Heeney has great potential outside the midfield also.

Horse likes sticking to his guns though. so wouldn't surprise me if he lets Heeney languish up forward without delivery. Papley, who can also go forward, had the second most CBAs for the game (19) for the Swans, with Heeney only attending 6. A clear sign others are given a shot in the guts before him

GoLions

Quote from: js19 on March 30, 2019, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 30, 2019, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 29, 2019, 11:28:26 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on March 29, 2019, 11:26:00 PM
Anyone worried about heeney?

I'd be concerned if I had him. Looks sharp, but just not near the action enough.
t mitchell deja vu anybody?  we may want him on the ball, horse has a bigger picture in mind.

I guess the difference is that Titch was out of favour all together compared to other mids, and can't really play anywhere else, whilst Heeney has great potential outside the midfield also.

Horse likes sticking to his guns though. so wouldn't surprise me if he lets Heeney languish up forward without delivery. Papley, who can also go forward, had the second most CBAs for the game (19) for the Swans, with Heeney only attending 6. A clear sign others are given a shot in the guts before him
Tbf papsmear had arguably the largest impact of any Swans mid at centre bounces tonight.

js19

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Quote from: GoLions on March 30, 2019, 12:19:59 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 30, 2019, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 30, 2019, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 29, 2019, 11:28:26 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on March 29, 2019, 11:26:00 PM
Anyone worried about heeney?

I'd be concerned if I had him. Looks sharp, but just not near the action enough.
t mitchell deja vu anybody?  we may want him on the ball, horse has a bigger picture in mind.

I guess the difference is that Titch was out of favour all together compared to other mids, and can't really play anywhere else, whilst Heeney has great potential outside the midfield also.

Horse likes sticking to his guns though. so wouldn't surprise me if he lets Heeney languish up forward without delivery. Papley, who can also go forward, had the second most CBAs for the game (19) for the Swans, with Heeney only attending 6. A clear sign others are given a shot in the guts before him
Tbf papsmear had arguably the largest impact of any Swans mid at centre bounces tonight.

Yeah, he's a good player for sure. But for SC that's cold comfort, as him and Heeney could easily reverse roles I feel, as they both have the skills to play either spot. Just that Horse seems to prefer Papley in the middle for some reason

Take away Papley's 7 fk against and he scores 100 easily ;D

Mat0369

They need both Mills and Heeney in the guts. They're missing the polish and X-factor both can provide. Fantasy aside, the Swans midfield is cooked past JPK and Parker.

Keeper27

not gonna lie, Heeney is seriously on the chopping block... didnt expect him to avg more than 95 before the season started but didnt wanna miss out on his possible scores as pretty much everyone had him

Ringo

Seriously it is only 2 games and I am sure we all have these issues. Mundy, Dusty, Heeney all a cocern but could turbn around ala Grundy.
Mundu appears to being managed but need to watch this game. TOG% the sign.
Dusty enough said in threads but appears to be not in the right places. Lack of a tackle in 2 games when is average is 3.2 per game slight concern. In SC scoring this equates to 12ppg.
Heeney - Despite the predictions of more mid time this does not appear to eventuate.

Lloyd appears to be a must based on the 2 games.

ubeaut

Thoughts on Scrimshaw JS?
I've got a possible Burgess/Balta > Parker trade pencilled in for next week. Plus Greene who will go if not back. Also have Wagner.

So do I trade Hore > Scrimshaw now? I'd rather wait, but if I need to do 2 other trades I'll miss out on one of Scrimshaw/Parker and be stuck with Balta/Burgess or Hore

Already have Wilkie, and can't trade Burgess to Parker this week as Moore was switched fwd to cover Greene.

hawkboy80

Quote from: js19 on March 30, 2019, 12:22:52 AM
Quote from: GoLions on March 30, 2019, 12:19:59 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 30, 2019, 12:07:19 AM
Quote from: crowls on March 30, 2019, 12:00:05 AM
Quote from: js19 on March 29, 2019, 11:28:26 PM
Quote from: sammy123 on March 29, 2019, 11:26:00 PM
Anyone worried about heeney?

I'd be concerned if I had him. Looks sharp, but just not near the action enough.
t mitchell deja vu anybody?  we may want him on the ball, horse has a bigger picture in mind.
I'm pretty confident horse doesn't give a fig about "supercoach" & will play heeney fwd, they need him as 1 of of their few scoring options.

I guess the difference is that Titch was out of favour all together compared to other mids, and can't really play anywhere else, whilst Heeney has great potential outside the midfield also.

Horse likes sticking to his guns though. so wouldn't surprise me if he lets Heeney languish up forward without delivery. Papley, who can also go forward, had the second most CBAs for the game (19) for the Swans, with Heeney only attending 6. A clear sign others are given a shot in the guts before him
Tbf papsmear had arguably the largest impact of any Swans mid at centre bounces tonight.

Yeah, he's a good player for sure. But for SC that's cold comfort, as him and Heeney could easily reverse roles I feel, as they both have the skills to play either spot. Just that Horse seems to prefer Papley in the middle for some reason

Take away Papley's 7 fk against and he scores 100 easily ;D

Keeper27

Quote from: Ringo on March 30, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Heeney - Despite the predictions of more mid time this does not appear to eventuate.

he looks to lose $20K... who's to say he wont be another Billings??
you'll hold and hold because of the "never trade a premo" rule and then by round 8 you'd lose $150K and wished you'd dropped him earlier, Look im sure he can turn it around, but are you willing to take that chance

Quote from: Ringo on March 30, 2019, 09:11:54 AMLloyd appears to be a must based on the 2 games.

This

SilverLion

Quote from: Keeper27 on March 30, 2019, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: Ringo on March 30, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Heeney - Despite the predictions of more mid time this does not appear to eventuate.
he looks to lose $20K... who's to say he wont be another Billings??
Because he has averaged 97 the last 2 years playing the exact role he's been playing the last 2 weeks, a predominant fwd with stints in the midfield.

ubeaut

Quote from: SilverLion on March 30, 2019, 10:29:05 AM
Quote from: Keeper27 on March 30, 2019, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: Ringo on March 30, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Heeney - Despite the predictions of more mid time this does not appear to eventuate.
he looks to lose $20K... who's to say he wont be another Billings??
Because he has averaged 97 the last 2 years playing the exact role he's been playing the last 2 weeks, a predominant fwd with stints in the midfield.
No its not the same role. He's stuck in a fwd pocket close to goal. And bugger all mid time.
His role used to be high half fwd pushing up the wing, being a link man. And with more midfield time.
Plus he's got an ankle issue, which we didn't know about till now.

GCSkiwi

Quote from: ubeaut on March 30, 2019, 10:08:20 AM
Thoughts on Scrimshaw JS?
I've got a possible Burgess/Balta > Parker trade pencilled in for next week. Plus Greene who will go if not back. Also have Wagner.

So do I trade Hore > Scrimshaw now? I'd rather wait, but if I need to do 2 other trades I'll miss out on one of Scrimshaw/Parker and be stuck with Balta/Burgess or Hore

Already have Wilkie, and can't trade Burgess to Parker this week as Moore was switched fwd to cover Greene.

I’m considering similar, Hore to Wilkie this week. Already next week considering Greene to Moore and have Wagner our this week in mids so don’t want 3 trades to make next week.... Anyone know how solid Wilkie’s JS is?

SilverLion

Quote from: ubeaut on March 30, 2019, 11:18:34 AM
Quote from: SilverLion on March 30, 2019, 10:29:05 AM
Quote from: Keeper27 on March 30, 2019, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: Ringo on March 30, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Heeney - Despite the predictions of more mid time this does not appear to eventuate.
he looks to lose $20K... who's to say he wont be another Billings??
Because he has averaged 97 the last 2 years playing the exact role he's been playing the last 2 weeks, a predominant fwd with stints in the midfield.
No its not the same role. He's stuck in a fwd pocket close to goal. And bugger all mid time.
His role used to be high half fwd pushing up the wing, being a link man. And with more midfield time.
Plus he's got an ankle issue, which we didn't know about till now.
Might not be identical, but still he's always been more fwd than mid. I've seen him be deep fwd in many games over the last couple of years as well. The ankle issue might explain why he's getting even less mid/high half-fwd time than usual, but 2 games where sydney's lost and he's been playing mainly fwd and gotten 85 and 67 is hardly cause for concern yet.

OZDocker

Quote from: Bully on March 29, 2019, 10:51:14 PM
Will be watching Oliver like a hawk this week, very tempted to just bring in Lloyd & seal my defence. He'd be my one glaring mistake thus far.
yeh Bully, when is the right time. I was on the verge dropping Dusty for Sloane pre-game but pulled back and ...sure enough he made me pay.An extra 40grand  bonus on top of my 125grand already in bank but i chickened out, would it have been the: Right move wrong move??? Dont trade prems???? dont trade first round??? GGrrrrr sometimes ya gotta make the call. For what its worth i have Oliver but i think he will come good. Dusty is always a unknown prospect each week, and i knew that butt....i put him in as a cheaper price to McCrae, Conigs and Treloar to keep a decent bank balance. I had Sloane in and out pre-season but with both Crouches and the fear of hard tags on Rory i bypassed but he may well have an exceptional year along with all the Adelaide Prems.as u know with all the comments on  here Dusty has numerous reasons about whether he will be top 5 mid and lets face it the main goal is try and collect the top 5  to 8 players in every position. Right or wrong, Thats how i see it.the horse has bolted and now will wait for R2 to complete to see where all this leaves me.

Excuse the story book i know but  i had to get the dirty water off my chest..lol Cheers

js19

Quote from: Keeper27 on March 30, 2019, 10:26:14 AM
Quote from: Ringo on March 30, 2019, 09:11:54 AM
Heeney - Despite the predictions of more mid time this does not appear to eventuate.

he looks to lose $20K... who's to say he wont be another Billings??
you'll hold and hold because of the "never trade a premo" rule and then by round 8 you'd lose $150K and wished you'd dropped him earlier, Look im sure he can turn it around, but are you willing to take that chance

Quote from: Ringo on March 30, 2019, 09:11:54 AMLloyd appears to be a must based on the 2 games.

This

If I can get Heeney for $380k in rd8, I’m probably all in!