Correctional trades

Started by tor01doc, March 24, 2019, 06:01:04 PM

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Judd Magic

Quote from: sammy123 on March 27, 2019, 12:58:26 PM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 27, 2019, 09:22:17 AM
Quote from: sammy123 on March 27, 2019, 02:12:57 AM
Quote from: Judd Magic on March 26, 2019, 11:53:23 PM
Quote from: djtranny on March 26, 2019, 11:49:05 PM
Lol @ trading premos within first few rounds  :o

This game isn't won by playing it safe champ.

Ha wasting trades doesnt win you much mate

It's not wasting trades if Oliver spuds it up again, goes under 100 and trading him helps me bring in Sheed\Rocky and Worpel\Newman if they all ton up again.  8)

Oliver scores crap again. Long term oliver outscores all them players named

Maybe but it's more of a re-structural trade for me if I bring in Lloyd for him as I feel like I need to beef up my backline and can probably afford to let go of my least under performing premo mid as I have 6 of them.

MontyJnr

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Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 27, 2019, 01:29:56 PM

That's fair, but there's always two sides to an argument

These type of moves might gain you points/cash in the short term, they could also cost you points/cash in the long term

The guys you bring in early could turn to shower and then required ANOTHER TRADE later on, and the extra trades you use now could leave you without trades and copping donuts/poor rookie scores later in the year. On the flip side, they could pay off and turn into keepers - but I'd rather pay 50k more for them once they've shown some continuity - not 1 or 2 good games

Bottom line, there is no right or wrong answer, but what we do know for a fact is that at certain points throughout the season you need to show restraint and hold trades, even if it means copping cash loss or a lower score from a player you have, because injuries happen, players get dropped, and trades get churned through

It's a balancing act, and a very difficult one at that. Personally, the team I picked are all still fit and playing so I'll back them in - there's a reason I chose the players I did, and I don't think I need to go back on months of researching based off 1 round. Admittedly if I had players (Eg Collins) that I think are now bad picks then yes I would trade this week, but talk of dropping guys like Oliver, Grundy etc is just silly imo and we should give them time to get going and back them in, because the saved trades now will net me even more points later in the season than the points potentially gained now

Yeah I agree there is no right or wrong answer, which is why I think we need to start giving more time to people suggesting non-injury trades after Round 1 instead of just ridiculing and dismissing them.

I also agree that we pick players for a reason after weeks/months of research, but it's not like I'm proposing we all bring in Salem out of nowhere after his 139. Rockliff in particular was in strong consideration for my side and was ultimately unlucky to miss out in the end (awkward price-point was the main reason and you can't start everyone). Therefore, I don't have any problem moving to him early after he confirms what I thought he was capable of.

On the flipside, I wasn't overly excited about starting Collins after Rory Thompson's injury but everyone had him and I was worried I would be left behind if he started well (bringing in a 188k rookie later on can be tricky). Wilkie struggled in the JLT, but was earmarked for Roberton's role when he went down which had me excited. However, it was difficult to justify starting him without any exposed form in this role. Now that I have seen a game from Wilkie in a post-Roberton Saints side, I am happy to take a risk and swap him for the overpriced Collins so I can keep my trade options open next week.

I would not recommend trading Oliver or Grundy this week (all premiums deserve 2 weeks at least), but there is merit to moving Grundy on (holding an underdone 700k player could destroy your overall chances) and Oliver on (strong JLT form may have sucked us in after he had double shoulder surgery) next week before prices change.

Finally - you may make more points later in the season, but you won't make much ground when you're competing with completed teams full of 22 premiums. The game is won in the first 14 rounds (before and during the byes) when everyone is exposed fielding rookies, so what you're scoring now has greater importance IMO.

frenzy

don't require any correctional trades, pretty much got most things right from the get go. Hope to get to Rnd 4 unscathed and make my first scheduled trade, Mummy on the bubble.

:-*

tkringle

Pretty easy one for me.

If Grundy doesn’t look right tomorrow night, I will trade Collins this week so i have two available next week to deal with Grundy and a missed rookie. If Grundy looks good, then holding.

jvalles69

Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Pretty easy one for me.

If Grundy doesn’t look right tomorrow night, I will trade Collins this week so i have two available next week to deal with Grundy and a missed rookie. If Grundy looks good, then holding.

Not a bad idea.

enzedder

Quote from: jvalles69 on March 27, 2019, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Pretty easy one for me.

If Grundy doesn’t look right tomorrow night, I will trade Collins this week so i have two available next week to deal with Grundy and a missed rookie. If Grundy looks good, then holding.

Not a bad idea.
Agree.
Not sure if it has been posted here but Collins also plays the last game... if he isn't named due to concussion/fitness test or is a late withdrawal for the same reason he can be used as a loophole with other defensive rookies too.
Lots to consider and play out.
My opinion on trading in R2 is there's nothing wrong with it. Having 2 trades up your sleeve in R3 is more important if you've got more than 2 things to worry about. He who hesitates is lost. Agree about previous comments re: carrying Billings and Hibberd in 2018.
I might do Balta to Parker this week just in case I need to act on an injury or one of my rucks or Collins or to get someone to good to refuse (Rocky/Sheed/Boak/Newman)

Ricochet

No trades for me this week... yet

tommy10

Quote from: Ricochet on March 27, 2019, 05:49:09 PM
No trades for me this week... yet
Same, didn’t get Collins so happy with my rookies atm  8)

tkringle

Quote from: enzedder on March 27, 2019, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 27, 2019, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Pretty easy one for me.

If Grundy doesn’t look right tomorrow night, I will trade Collins this week so i have two available next week to deal with Grundy and a missed rookie. If Grundy looks good, then holding.

Not a bad idea.
Agree.
Not sure if it has been posted here but Collins also plays the last game... if he isn't named due to concussion/fitness test or is a late withdrawal for the same reason he can be used as a loophole with other defensive rookies too.
Lots to consider and play out.
My opinion on trading in R2 is there's nothing wrong with it. Having 2 trades up your sleeve in R3 is more important if you've got more than 2 things to worry about. He who hesitates is lost. Agree about previous comments re: carrying Billings and Hibberd in 2018.
I might do Balta to Parker this week just in case I need to act on an injury or one of my rucks or Collins or to get someone to good to refuse (Rocky/Sheed/Boak/Newman)

Worth giving Balta one more week to see how he goes in a new role in the back line

TommyC

Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: enzedder on March 27, 2019, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 27, 2019, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Pretty easy one for me.

If Grundy doesn’t look right tomorrow night, I will trade Collins this week so i have two available next week to deal with Grundy and a missed rookie. If Grundy looks good, then holding.

Not a bad idea.
Agree.
Not sure if it has been posted here but Collins also plays the last game... if he isn't named due to concussion/fitness test or is a late withdrawal for the same reason he can be used as a loophole with other defensive rookies too.
Lots to consider and play out.
My opinion on trading in R2 is there's nothing wrong with it. Having 2 trades up your sleeve in R3 is more important if you've got more than 2 things to worry about. He who hesitates is lost. Agree about previous comments re: carrying Billings and Hibberd in 2018.
I might do Balta to Parker this week just in case I need to act on an injury or one of my rucks or Collins or to get someone to good to refuse (Rocky/Sheed/Boak/Newman)

Worth giving Balta one more week to see how he goes in a new role in the back line
Teams announced and he has been omitted.
Throws a spanner in the works..

justaverage

Quote from: TommyC on March 27, 2019, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: enzedder on March 27, 2019, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 27, 2019, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Pretty easy one for me.

If Grundy doesn’t look right tomorrow night, I will trade Collins this week so i have two available next week to deal with Grundy and a missed rookie. If Grundy looks good, then holding.

Not a bad idea.
Agree.
Not sure if it has been posted here but Collins also plays the last game... if he isn't named due to concussion/fitness test or is a late withdrawal for the same reason he can be used as a loophole with other defensive rookies too.
Lots to consider and play out.
My opinion on trading in R2 is there's nothing wrong with it. Having 2 trades up your sleeve in R3 is more important if you've got more than 2 things to worry about. He who hesitates is lost. Agree about previous comments re: carrying Billings and Hibberd in 2018.
I might do Balta to Parker this week just in case I need to act on an injury or one of my rucks or Collins or to get someone to good to refuse (Rocky/Sheed/Boak/Newman)

Worth giving Balta one more week to see how he goes in a new role in the back line
Teams announced and he has been omitted.
Throws a spanner in the works..

Does it count as a 'correction trade' when he gets dropped  :P

enzedder

Quote from: justaverage on March 27, 2019, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: TommyC on March 27, 2019, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: enzedder on March 27, 2019, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 27, 2019, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Pretty easy one for me.

If Grundy doesn’t look right tomorrow night, I will trade Collins this week so i have two available next week to deal with Grundy and a missed rookie. If Grundy looks good, then holding.

Not a bad idea.
Agree.
Not sure if it has been posted here but Collins also plays the last game... if he isn't named due to concussion/fitness test or is a late withdrawal for the same reason he can be used as a loophole with other defensive rookies too.
Lots to consider and play out.
My opinion on trading in R2 is there's nothing wrong with it. Having 2 trades up your sleeve in R3 is more important if you've got more than 2 things to worry about. He who hesitates is lost. Agree about previous comments re: carrying Billings and Hibberd in 2018.
I might do Balta to Parker this week just in case I need to act on an injury or one of my rucks or Collins or to get someone to good to refuse (Rocky/Sheed/Boak/Newman)

Worth giving Balta one more week to see how he goes in a new role in the back line
Teams announced and he has been omitted.
Throws a spanner in the works..

Does it count as a 'correction trade' when he gets dropped  :P
I'm almost definitely trading him. Parker will moo and Balta may just sit and lay idle. It's a correction trade haha.

tkringle

Quote from: enzedder on March 27, 2019, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: justaverage on March 27, 2019, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: TommyC on March 27, 2019, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: enzedder on March 27, 2019, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 27, 2019, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Pretty easy one for me.

If Grundy doesn’t look right tomorrow night, I will trade Collins this week so i have two available next week to deal with Grundy and a missed rookie. If Grundy looks good, then holding.

Not a bad idea.
Agree.
Not sure if it has been posted here but Collins also plays the last game... if he isn't named due to concussion/fitness test or is a late withdrawal for the same reason he can be used as a loophole with other defensive rookies too.
Lots to consider and play out.
My opinion on trading in R2 is there's nothing wrong with it. Having 2 trades up your sleeve in R3 is more important if you've got more than 2 things to worry about. He who hesitates is lost. Agree about previous comments re: carrying Billings and Hibberd in 2018.
I might do Balta to Parker this week just in case I need to act on an injury or one of my rucks or Collins or to get someone to good to refuse (Rocky/Sheed/Boak/Newman)

Worth giving Balta one more week to see how he goes in a new role in the back line
Teams announced and he has been omitted.
Throws a spanner in the works..

Does it count as a 'correction trade' when he gets dropped  :P
I'm almost definitely trading him. Parker will moo and Balta may just sit and lay idle. It's a correction trade haha.

Yep, an early correctional to Parker on the cards for me too.

TommyC

Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 06:53:25 PM
Quote from: enzedder on March 27, 2019, 06:50:55 PM
Quote from: justaverage on March 27, 2019, 06:38:57 PM
Quote from: TommyC on March 27, 2019, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 06:12:41 PM
Quote from: enzedder on March 27, 2019, 05:46:02 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 27, 2019, 05:11:55 PM
Quote from: tkringle on March 27, 2019, 05:10:13 PM
Pretty easy one for me.

If Grundy doesn’t look right tomorrow night, I will trade Collins this week so i have two available next week to deal with Grundy and a missed rookie. If Grundy looks good, then holding.

Not a bad idea.
Agree.
Not sure if it has been posted here but Collins also plays the last game... if he isn't named due to concussion/fitness test or is a late withdrawal for the same reason he can be used as a loophole with other defensive rookies too.
Lots to consider and play out.
My opinion on trading in R2 is there's nothing wrong with it. Having 2 trades up your sleeve in R3 is more important if you've got more than 2 things to worry about. He who hesitates is lost. Agree about previous comments re: carrying Billings and Hibberd in 2018.
I might do Balta to Parker this week just in case I need to act on an injury or one of my rucks or Collins or to get someone to good to refuse (Rocky/Sheed/Boak/Newman)

Worth giving Balta one more week to see how he goes in a new role in the back line
Teams announced and he has been omitted.
Throws a spanner in the works..

Does it count as a 'correction trade' when he gets dropped  :P
I'm almost definitely trading him. Parker will moo and Balta may just sit and lay idle. It's a correction trade haha.

Yep, an early correctional to Parker on the cards for me too.
What if you already have Parker, Drew and Setterfield?
Reckon I'll just hold him

crowls

Quote from: LaHug on March 27, 2019, 09:09:58 AM
I'm thinking of trading SuperCoach for an outside hobby this season. Maybe some nature hikes or something. Thoughts?
Dont do it LH.   We all have years where it is a struggle.   Make a revised the goal normally after 3rd round when you can see how far away you really are.    If you are at 110k   aim for to 5k or 10k.   Plenty of us have finished lower than 10k in the odd year.    In some ways the challenge is even greater to rise up the ladder.     It sucks getting beaten every week in h2h but you can address that easier than getting to the top of the ladder.  An come finals it means jack if your team lacks depth during knockout.