Correctional trades

[Mat0369]

I distinctly remember everyone struggling to decide which rookies to field last week because they didn't look like a strong bunch, so I went heavy in the mids. Now, all of a sudden, we've got too many strong mid rookies and the premiums stink. I can't bring myself to trade them out because... what if it's just one week? I'm so so conflicted haha

Mid rookies were probably going to be the strongest line. Scott scoring so well was one out of the box and it always looked like you wanted to have one of Atkins/Gibbons on the bench at worst and the other guys could probably be serviceable.

Personally I wouldn't have started Libba and used the cash to bulk up elsewhere by fielding Constable. Still think as long as you're generating cash from the rookies you have you will be sweet. You also have the flexibility to turn Libba into a Sheed/Rocky which could give you a leg up if you start by trading aggressively this week. Maybe a Collins downgrade if plan on fielding Duursma. Otherwise you could go up if you wait a week and downgrade Libba if he under performs.

[LaHug]

I'm only not calm because I've never been ranked 100,000+ before and it's the worst

Round 1 ranking means jack shower, and you now that mate :)

First few rounds in particular, the swings are huge

I scored worse than you Huggy, shower happens sometimes. If I get my rookies right and keep Cripps score I get just under 2100 - it's the luck of the draw.

Making knee jerk reactions after a 1 week sample size is not the sensible way to play IMO.

Nah, I think we both need to make 2 trades a week for the first 15 weeks and see how that goes tbh ;)

[LaHug]

I distinctly remember everyone struggling to decide which rookies to field last week because they didn't look like a strong bunch, so I went heavy in the mids. Now, all of a sudden, we've got too many strong mid rookies and the premiums stink. I can't bring myself to trade them out because... what if it's just one week? I'm so so conflicted haha

Mid rookies were probably going to be the strongest line. Scott scoring so well was one out of the box and it always looked like you wanted to have one of Atkins/Gibbons on the bench at worst and the other guys could probably be serviceable.

Personally I wouldn't have started Libba and used the cash to bulk up elsewhere by fielding Constable. Still think as long as you're generating cash from the rookies you have you will be sweet. You also have the flexibility to turn Libba into a Sheed/Rocky which could give you a leg up if you start by trading aggressively this week. Maybe a Collins downgrade if plan on fielding Duursma. Otherwise you could go up if you wait a week and downgrade Libba if he under performs.

In hindsight, Libba was definitely the one I could have passed on. But hindsight is 20/20. My thoughts were that no rookie would average above 70 (bar maybe Walsh) and Libba would average 90. I wanted the 25+ points per week from that decision that and wait to see which forward/def premiums were consistent. One week in, it looks like the wrong call. Let's see if it's still wrong after two. Two behinds, uncharacteristically low tackles, and only 60% DE for Libba this week. No reason he can't turn that into one goal, a few extra tackles, a bit better kicking, and 100 this week.

[TommyC]

I distinctly remember everyone struggling to decide which rookies to field last week because they didn't look like a strong bunch, so I went heavy in the mids. Now, all of a sudden, we've got too many strong mid rookies and the premiums stink. I can't bring myself to trade them out because... what if it's just one week? I'm so so conflicted haha

Mid rookies were probably going to be the strongest line. Scott scoring so well was one out of the box and it always looked like you wanted to have one of Atkins/Gibbons on the bench at worst and the other guys could probably be serviceable.

Personally I wouldn't have started Libba and used the cash to bulk up elsewhere by fielding Constable. Still think as long as you're generating cash from the rookies you have you will be sweet. You also have the flexibility to turn Libba into a Sheed/Rocky which could give you a leg up if you start by trading aggressively this week. Maybe a Collins downgrade if plan on fielding Duursma. Otherwise you could go up if you wait a week and downgrade Libba if he under performs.

In hindsight, Libba was definitely the one I could have passed on. But hindsight is 20/20. My thoughts were that no rookie would average above 70 (bar maybe Walsh) and Libba would average 90. I wanted the 25+ points per week from that decision that and wait to see which forward/def premiums were consistent. One week in, it looks like the wrong call. Let's see if it's still wrong after two. Two behinds, uncharacteristically low tackles, and only 60% DE for Libba this week. No reason he can't turn that into one goal, a few extra tackles, a bit better kicking, and 100 this week.

I don't have Libba but I do see him getting a much better score this week.
Libba was just warming himself back into footy after the ACL and should start to tackle more and get his kicking back up to scratch.
He should also increase his game time which will help.
I wouldn't be worried yet if I own him.

[Holz]

Its at this time i make crazy moves.

Now Jake Lloyd just looks too good and shouldnt have passed up on him, 35 touches and 10 marks is insane.

What im thinking of doing is Oliver to Lloyd (I know overreaction and Oliver will bounce back) but the reason is I could only fill 2 out of Walsh Constable Scott Butters and with this move i can field 3. I was fielding 3 of Clark Durrsma Scrim and Hore and now its down to 2.

This move stuffs up my strucutre as it pushed Willem Drew into the mids so to counter this I go Balta (who i dont like the look of) to Atkins who looked better then i expected.

This also put burgees up front  and moore down back which opens up my lines.

So Oliver Balta to Lloyd Atkins

It seems crazy but at the same time does make the squad look much better. If lloyd can keep up 105+ then he becomes a must have, Oliver if he goes 110-115 is great to have but not a necessity as looks like there will be a few 110+ guys to pick up.

[ubeaut]

Its at this time i make crazy moves.

Now Jake Lloyd just looks too good and shouldnt have passed up on him, 35 touches and 10 marks is insane.

What im thinking of doing is Oliver to Lloyd (I know overreaction and Oliver will bounce back) but the reason is I could only fill 2 out of Walsh Constable Scott Butters and with this move i can field 3. I was fielding 3 of Clark Durrsma Scrim and Hore and now its down to 2.

This move stuffs up my strucutre as it pushed Willem Drew into the mids so to counter this I go Balta (who i dont like the look of) to Atkins who looked better then i expected.

This also put burgees up front  and moore down back which opens up my lines.

So Oliver Balta to Lloyd Atkins

It seems crazy but at the same time does make the squad look much better. If lloyd can keep up 105+ then he becomes a must have, Oliver if he goes 110-115 is great to have but not a necessity as looks like there will be a few 110+ guys to pick up.

Many will say "never trade a premo" but this move makes sense to me.
As u say you get to field 2 of Constable/Butters/Scott and not have to field Hore or Scrimshaw. Lloyd is more of a must in defence as Oliver is in the midfield.
Balta to Atkins also a great trade.

[_wato]

Understand your thinking Holz and it is very sound but even for you that seems silly after 1 Round.

What if Oliver comes out and pumps a 120 and Lloyd pumps an 80. You'll be wanting to do a full 360.
I'd be waiting another week, no issue in seeing it all unfold this week. If Oliver scores whack again then easy done, pull the trigger.

Reminder to EVERYONE that it is Round 1. Unless your rookie guy gets DROPPED or is somehow injured then a trade may be necessary but based off points alone from Round 1 no correctional trades are needed are they? Sample size is way too small.

[Holz]

Its at this time i make crazy moves.

Now Jake Lloyd just looks too good and shouldnt have passed up on him, 35 touches and 10 marks is insane.

What im thinking of doing is Oliver to Lloyd (I know overreaction and Oliver will bounce back) but the reason is I could only fill 2 out of Walsh Constable Scott Butters and with this move i can field 3. I was fielding 3 of Clark Durrsma Scrim and Hore and now its down to 2.

This move stuffs up my strucutre as it pushed Willem Drew into the mids so to counter this I go Balta (who i dont like the look of) to Atkins who looked better then i expected.

in regards to Wato, the move is all about fixing up my strucutre. It lets me go Balta to Atkins and also play Scott or Constable over Scrimshaw which i would be shocked if they arent good moves.

It also lets me watch Parker and Wilkie (who im not convinced are must haves) but if Burgess goes sub 40 and Parker or Wilkie go 80+ I want that option.



This also put burgees up front  and moore down back which opens up my lines.

So Oliver Balta to Lloyd Atkins

It seems crazy but at the same time does make the squad look much better. If lloyd can keep up 105+ then he becomes a must have, Oliver if he goes 110-115 is great to have but not a necessity as looks like there will be a few 110+ guys to pick up.

Many will say "never trade a premo" but this move makes sense to me.
As u say you get to field 2 of Constable/Butters/Scott and not have to field Hore or Scrimshaw. Lloyd is more of a must in defence as Oliver is in the midfield.
Balta to Atkins also a great trade.

yeah im thinking of its a a structure fix up and a rookie fix up. Not a premo fixup as I still think Oliver will outscore Lloyd for the year.

I had Lloyd and Atkins in my squad most of the preseason but just moved them out due to structure changes. Oliver will likely kill it next week but Lloyd has shown enough that he will too.

plus your right there will likely be many most have mids available similar or marginally worse then Oliver. There wont be many defenders close to LLoyd.

In regards to Wato

for me to regret the move next week this needs to happen

Oliver destroys Lloyd
Scrimshaw matches or beats Scott
Balta matches or beats Atkins
Wilkie and Parker both dont beat Burgees by alot

the reason to pull the move this week is it frees up 2 trades for injury or other issues. I like these 2 moves alot but if something else pops up then i cant do these moves.

[js19]

If Collins is out I’ll definitely get either Joyce or Wilkie this week. If Newman has another blinder, he might be too tempting to pass up next week and I want the option to add another potential keeper on the cheap!

[Miss Pies]

I did my homework and picked my players for a reason. I get the luxury of seeing two rounds played before any prices change. Some players had great games, others still got a lot of the ball but a bit rusty with DE. As for rookies, that's a seesaw in itself. There is absolutely no way I am trading anyone after 1 game.

[MontyJnr]

Its at this time i make crazy moves.

Now Jake Lloyd just looks too good and shouldnt have passed up on him, 35 touches and 10 marks is insane.

What im thinking of doing is Oliver to Lloyd (I know overreaction and Oliver will bounce back) but the reason is I could only fill 2 out of Walsh Constable Scott Butters and with this move i can field 3. I was fielding 3 of Clark Durrsma Scrim and Hore and now its down to 2.

This move stuffs up my strucutre as it pushed Willem Drew into the mids so to counter this I go Balta (who i dont like the look of) to Atkins who looked better then i expected.

This also put burgees up front  and moore down back which opens up my lines.

So Oliver Balta to Lloyd Atkins

It seems crazy but at the same time does make the squad look much better. If lloyd can keep up 105+ then he becomes a must have, Oliver if he goes 110-115 is great to have but not a necessity as looks like there will be a few 110+ guys to pick up.

I'm actually in the minority who supports aggressive post-R1 trading, but these sideway moves are silly. I wouldn't want to rely on Constable & Butters (who is playing a small forward role) being on field each week anyway.

2 players actually worth panicking about are Grundy & Gawn - save your premium correction trades for them.

[Holz]

Its at this time i make crazy moves.

Now Jake Lloyd just looks too good and shouldnt have passed up on him, 35 touches and 10 marks is insane.

What im thinking of doing is Oliver to Lloyd (I know overreaction and Oliver will bounce back) but the reason is I could only fill 2 out of Walsh Constable Scott Butters and with this move i can field 3. I was fielding 3 of Clark Durrsma Scrim and Hore and now its down to 2.

This move stuffs up my strucutre as it pushed Willem Drew into the mids so to counter this I go Balta (who i dont like the look of) to Atkins who looked better then i expected.

This also put burgees up front  and moore down back which opens up my lines.

So Oliver Balta to Lloyd Atkins

It seems crazy but at the same time does make the squad look much better. If lloyd can keep up 105+ then he becomes a must have, Oliver if he goes 110-115 is great to have but not a necessity as looks like there will be a few 110+ guys to pick up.

I'm actually in the minority who supports aggressive post-R1 trading, but these sideway moves are silly. I wouldn't want to rely on Constable & Butters (who is playing a small forward role) being on field each week anyway.

2 players actually worth panicking about are Grundy & Gawn - save your premium correction trades for them.

you wouldn't want to Constable over Scrimshaw/Hore?

Butters i understand but Constable only kicked 1 goal for his 85 and he racked up 21 touches

I didnt watch the game but i looked at constables heat map and he found the ball all around the ground so he looked like he was mainly in the mid.

If you where just talking about Butters being a forward then thats fine.

For the record i have Scott and Walsh on field so im trying to bring Constable on the field too. Butters will be on the bench regardless.

Constable has now gone 92 61 in the JLT and now 85 in his first game, not sure why i shouldnt want to start him.

Scott has gone 89 and 59 in the JLT and now 103 in his first game

Walsh is Walsh



Scrimshaw 68 78 - 56
Hore 57 69 - 58

[LaHug]

You're making me want to make a trade to get Scott on the field and Collins off it, Holz! I could go Brayshaw to Newman, Andrews, Hurn, etc.......

[Holz]

You're making me want to make a trade to get Scott on the field and Collins off it, Holz! I could go Brayshaw to Newman, Andrews, Hurn, etc.......

Brayshaw to Rookie i assume nets you 500k (which rookie are you going to)

Then Collins to laird Whitfield or LLoyd (if you can afford him and dont have him)

[Holz]

At the moment i have temporarily came to my senses, reversed the trade and will give it a week to double my sample size.