Correctional trades

Started by tor01doc, March 24, 2019, 06:01:04 PM

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quinny88

Quote from: ubeaut on March 25, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
To everyone saying "no trades after round 1" and "never trade a premo" that thinking is what got me stuck with Billings and Hibberd most of last year. And I also wish I'd traded Andrew Brayshaw earlier. Before you knew it Liam Ryan, Venables and ZGL went down and I was wishing I had traded him cos it was too late by then.
If you see at least 1 or 2 rookie correction trades then you can do at least 1 now, or get stuck next week when 2 other rookies get dropped/injured and/or a premo goes down. You're then needing to do 4 trades and you've only got 2 before prices change. Then you'll regret holding off.

Still don't need to do it after 1 game though. I traded Cripps out in his first year after he put up a 50 to get Van Berlo. Guess how that ended  ::)

sammy123

This thread is entertaining. Calm down people's only round 1

LaHug

I'm only not calm because I've never been ranked 100,000+ before and it's the worst

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: LaHug on March 25, 2019, 06:31:48 PM
I'm only not calm because I've never been ranked 100,000+ before and it's the worst

Round 1 ranking means jack shower, and you now that mate :)

First few rounds in particular, the swings are huge


Keeper27

Only one I'm thinking of for next week is Walsh to sheed.
That's only if Sheed tons up and Walsh goes sub 70.
Luckily i got most rookies right (missed out on Parker) so yeah losing walsh wouldn't hurt too much

js19

Quote from: Keeper27 on March 25, 2019, 07:43:22 PM
Only one I'm thinking of for next week is Walsh to sheed.
That's only if Sheed tons up and Walsh goes sub 70.
Luckily i got most rookies right (missed out on Parker) so yeah losing walsh wouldn't hurt too much

Well, you could wait until Walsh is 400k, and Sheed is 600k and do the upgrade then...

ubeaut

Quote from: quinny88 on March 25, 2019, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 25, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
To everyone saying "no trades after round 1" and "never trade a premo" that thinking is what got me stuck with Billings and Hibberd most of last year. And I also wish I'd traded Andrew Brayshaw earlier. Before you knew it Liam Ryan, Venables and ZGL went down and I was wishing I had traded him cos it was too late by then.
If you see at least 1 or 2 rookie correction trades then you can do at least 1 now, or get stuck next week when 2 other rookies get dropped/injured and/or a premo goes down. You're then needing to do 4 trades and you've only got 2 before prices change. Then you'll regret holding off.

Still don't need to do it after 1 game though. I traded Cripps out in his first year after he put up a 50 to get Van Berlo. Guess how that ended  ::)
Not saying trade a premo after round 1 necessarily.
Just saying if you have rookie corrections to make, if you hold off and 2 equally or more important trades pop up due to injury/getting dropped, then u miss out somewhere in terms of getting the right rookies.
I'm looking to get Parker in for either Burgess or Balta. Hore a chance to be dropped too. If he is, that's 2 trades needed. Then if Grundy flops there's another one needed next week. Other rookies could get dropped/injured next week. Remember ZGL, Ryan and Venables?
  If I make no trades then I could be stuck with 3-4 trades needed before price changes and only able to make 2.
It's happened a few times before, don't want to make the same mistake.

AaronKirk

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 25, 2019, 06:50:56 PM
Quote from: LaHug on March 25, 2019, 06:31:48 PM
I'm only not calm because I've never been ranked 100,000+ before and it's the worst

Round 1 ranking means jack shower, and you now that mate :)

First few rounds in particular, the swings are huge

I scored worse than you Huggy, shower happens sometimes. If I get my rookies right and keep Cripps score I get just under 2100 - it's the luck of the draw.

Making knee jerk reactions after a 1 week sample size is not the sensible way to play IMO.

Keeper27

Quote from: js19 on March 25, 2019, 07:45:35 PM
Quote from: Keeper27 on March 25, 2019, 07:43:22 PM
Only one I'm thinking of for next week is Walsh to sheed.
That's only if Sheed tons up and Walsh goes sub 70.
Luckily i got most rookies right (missed out on Parker) so yeah losing walsh wouldn't hurt too much

Well, you could wait until Walsh is 400k, and Sheed is 600k and do the upgrade then...

To get to $400k walsh would need to avg 85 over the first 10 rounds.

sammy123

Quote from: ubeaut on March 25, 2019, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 25, 2019, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 25, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
To everyone saying "no trades after round 1" and "never trade a premo" that thinking is what got me stuck with Billings and Hibberd most of last year. And I also wish I'd traded Andrew Brayshaw earlier. Before you knew it Liam Ryan, Venables and ZGL went down and I was wishing I had traded him cos it was too late by then.
If you see at least 1 or 2 rookie correction trades then you can do at least 1 now, or get stuck next week when 2 other rookies get dropped/injured and/or a premo goes down. You're then needing to do 4 trades and you've only got 2 before prices change. Then you'll regret holding off.

Still don't need to do it after 1 game though. I traded Cripps out in his first year after he put up a 50 to get Van Berlo. Guess how that ended  ::)
Not saying trade a premo after round 1 necessarily.
Just saying if you have rookie corrections to make, if you hold off and 2 equally or more important trades pop up due to injury/getting dropped, then u miss out somewhere in terms of getting the right rookies.
I'm looking to get Parker in for either Burgess or Balta. Hore a chance to be dropped too. If he is, that's 2 trades needed. Then if Grundy flops there's another one needed next week. Other rookies could get dropped/injured next week. Remember ZGL, Ryan and Venables?
  If I make no trades then I could be stuck with 3-4 trades needed before price changes and only able to make 2.
It's happened a few times before, don't want to make the same mistake.

I dont get this if grundy scores crap again trade him. Mever trade a premo.

PICCOLLO

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Quote from: sammy123 on March 25, 2019, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 25, 2019, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 25, 2019, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 25, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
To everyone saying "no trades after round 1" and "never trade a premo" that thinking is what got me stuck with Billings and Hibberd most of last year. And I also wish I'd traded Andrew Brayshaw earlier. Before you knew it Liam Ryan, Venables and ZGL went down and I was wishing I had traded him cos it was too late by then.
If you see at least 1 or 2 rookie correction trades then you can do at least 1 now, or get stuck next week when 2 other rookies get dropped/injured and/or a premo goes down. You're then needing to do 4 trades and you've only got 2 before prices change. Then you'll regret holding off.

Still don't need to do it after 1 game though. I traded Cripps out in his first year after he put up a 50 to get Van Berlo. Guess how that ended  ::)
Not saying trade a premo after round 1 necessarily.
Just saying if you have rookie corrections to make, if you hold off and 2 equally or more important trades pop up due to injury/getting dropped, then u miss out somewhere in terms of getting the right rookies.
I'm looking to get Parker in for either Burgess or Balta. Hore a chance to be dropped too. If he is, that's 2 trades needed. Then if Grundy flops there's another one needed next week. Other rookies could get dropped/injured next week. Remember ZGL, Ryan and Venables?
  If I make no trades then I could be stuck with 3-4 trades needed before price changes and only able to make 2.
It's happened a few times before, don't want to make the same mistake.

I dont get this if grundy scores crap again trade him. Mever trade a premo.

There are exceptions. If its determined that centre bounces/ball ups are significantly affected by rules changes then that can warrant a change. They were down in R1 but not enough to be hitting the trade button just yet. Other than that, LTI or role change are the only reasons.

Keeper27

Quote from: sammy123 on March 25, 2019, 08:33:38 PM
I dont get this if grundy scores crap again trade him. Mever trade a premo.

guess its to cut losses.
Grundy/Gawn are so expensive... even if they scores 100 the next 6 games by the start of Round 8 he'd have lost $140K
lets say Goldy avg's 100 too over the same time period he'd only lose $15K

most people think a trade is worth $150K... i'm guessing that would be the same for lost money too, same points but $100K better off to use elsewhere

same goes for Billings last year, started off at $510K/93 avg... by round 8 he's avg 72 and lost $160K
Did "Never trade a premo" apply to him too?? I'm sure it did

Not saying i'd do it right now but dont you think cutting your losses and using that money a smarter decision??

ubeaut

Quote from: sammy123 on March 25, 2019, 08:33:38 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 25, 2019, 07:46:57 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on March 25, 2019, 05:33:53 PM
Quote from: ubeaut on March 25, 2019, 05:08:05 PM
To everyone saying "no trades after round 1" and "never trade a premo" that thinking is what got me stuck with Billings and Hibberd most of last year. And I also wish I'd traded Andrew Brayshaw earlier. Before you knew it Liam Ryan, Venables and ZGL went down and I was wishing I had traded him cos it was too late by then.
If you see at least 1 or 2 rookie correction trades then you can do at least 1 now, or get stuck next week when 2 other rookies get dropped/injured and/or a premo goes down. You're then needing to do 4 trades and you've only got 2 before prices change. Then you'll regret holding off.

Still don't need to do it after 1 game though. I traded Cripps out in his first year after he put up a 50 to get Van Berlo. Guess how that ended  ::)
Not saying trade a premo after round 1 necessarily.
Just saying if you have rookie corrections to make, if you hold off and 2 equally or more important trades pop up due to injury/getting dropped, then u miss out somewhere in terms of getting the right rookies.
I'm looking to get Parker in for either Burgess or Balta. Hore a chance to be dropped too. If he is, that's 2 trades needed. Then if Grundy flops there's another one needed next week. Other rookies could get dropped/injured next week. Remember ZGL, Ryan and Venables?
  If I make no trades then I could be stuck with 3-4 trades needed before price changes and only able to make 2.
It's happened a few times before, don't want to make the same mistake.

I dont get this if grundy scores crap again trade him. Mever trade a premo.
That's the thinking that got me stuck with Hibberd and Billings until it was too late.
Also missed a cheapish Grundy by holding Goldy. If they suck, why wait until they are averaging 75 and have lost 150k,just to stick to some rigid rule someone came up with?
There are no "rules" in SC. Only guidelines
I think Grundy will be OK, but if he can't smash a 700k score vs Nank who bleeds SC points to oppo rucks, there's obviously a problem.

jfitty

Grundy and Gawn will be fine, I'm sure of it.

But in the case one of them needs to go, Westhoff is almost the perfect replacement. Looking like he can definitely carry on last year's scoring, and can stay at R2 until an obvious top ruck comes through.

HappyDEZ

For me I don't have Scott & due to tight arse bench cannot straight swap him with another rookie so may have to let him go. We shall see. Grundy Gawn is concerning but gotta go down with the ship on that one imo.