2019 Forwards

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Bully

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 06, 2019, 11:40:32 PM
Quote from: imjusflexin on March 06, 2019, 02:37:40 AM
The reason he's a popular choice is because of the state of the FWD premos this year (no reliable picks other than Danger, Heeney, Kelly & Menegola, and they all have the same bye) and the lack of promising FWD rookies.. When all the other choices don't look very safe themselves, going for Greene, who if fit (which seems to be the case according to the Giants camp) should have no problem banging out a 95+ average, looks like a fairly safe option at his price.

If he gets injured early, it's just a trade gone and he becomes a rookie, you pocket 200k. If he gets injured about 8 or so weeks in, you do the same and pocket 350k, or you sideways trade him to a performing FWD premo (basically treating him as  a cash cow). Both aren't ideal, but are worth the risk for such a massive reward.

And BTW I'd grab Brad Crouch in a second if he was a fwd, he's nowhere near my mids line though.

People are starting Greene at F3. That is not a smart move. Forward rookies don't seem to be very deep and you are going to struggle to find 3, let alone 4, to start on field. There is no chance in hell I am going anywhere near Toby Greene as my forward 3. It has to be 3 of those 4 you mentioned to start the year. Personally I have Danger, Heeney and Menegola. I am also locking one of Boak or Acres at F4 (most likely Boak at this stage).

If you swing Burgess forward then there's very little difference with the personnel, I'd back Setterfield/Balta/Drew to outscore Hore/Quaynor/Logue/Duursma. Collins probably a 70 average but he's also pricey & many people are running with Roberton at D5.

Money Shot

 Petrucelle, Balta, Drew, Miers, Burgess, Parker, Cavvara

Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield are all locked all you need is 4 of them to play which I think is more likely than unlikely.

Lock it in Eddie.

GoLions

Quote from: Money Shot on March 07, 2019, 12:31:02 PM
Petrucelle, Balta, Drew, Miers, Burgess, Parker, Cavvara

Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield are all locked all you need is 4 of them to play which I think is more likely than unlikely.

Lock it in Eddie.
Problem is, half those guys would be lucky to avg 50 from what we've seen so far. Hopefully someone shows some decent scoring potential this weekend (excluding Balta and Drew)

Bully

Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 07, 2019, 12:31:02 PM
Petrucelle, Balta, Drew, Miers, Burgess, Parker, Cavvara

Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield are all locked all you need is 4 of them to play which I think is more likely than unlikely.

Lock it in Eddie.
Problem is, half those guys would be lucky to avg 50 from what we've seen so far. Hopefully someone shows some decent scoring potential this weekend (excluding Balta and Drew)

Setterfield & Balta 70+, Drew probably 65. Who in the backline will score better?

GoLions

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 01:50:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 07, 2019, 12:31:02 PM
Petrucelle, Balta, Drew, Miers, Burgess, Parker, Cavvara

Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield are all locked all you need is 4 of them to play which I think is more likely than unlikely.

Lock it in Eddie.
Problem is, half those guys would be lucky to avg 50 from what we've seen so far. Hopefully someone shows some decent scoring potential this weekend (excluding Balta and Drew)

Setterfield & Balta 70+, Drew probably 65. Who in the backline will score better?
I'm not saying they'll outscore those 3, i thought it was pretty clear i was referring to fettucine, miers, parker, and cavarra

Bully

Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 01:50:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 07, 2019, 12:31:02 PM
Petrucelle, Balta, Drew, Miers, Burgess, Parker, Cavvara

Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield are all locked all you need is 4 of them to play which I think is more likely than unlikely.

Lock it in Eddie.
Problem is, half those guys would be lucky to avg 50 from what we've seen so far. Hopefully someone shows some decent scoring potential this weekend (excluding Balta and Drew)

Setterfield & Balta 70+, Drew probably 65. Who in the backline will score better?
I'm not saying they'll outscore those 3, i thought it was pretty clear i was referring to fettucine, miers, parker, and cavarra

The other guys are bench options so not really critical what they score, as long as they make money in the long run. People also have Burgess as a swingman so it's really a moot point that the forward rookies are lacking. Most will only have 1 or 2 from the above group. I'd be more concerned about the backs to be honest, Clark & Collins very popular but also more expensive. That's why there is some sense in grabbing an extra mid pricer in defence.

GoLions

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 01:58:32 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 01:52:59 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 01:50:02 PM
Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 07, 2019, 12:31:02 PM
Petrucelle, Balta, Drew, Miers, Burgess, Parker, Cavvara

Danger, Heeney, Greene, Setterfield are all locked all you need is 4 of them to play which I think is more likely than unlikely.

Lock it in Eddie.
Problem is, half those guys would be lucky to avg 50 from what we've seen so far. Hopefully someone shows some decent scoring potential this weekend (excluding Balta and Drew)

Setterfield & Balta 70+, Drew probably 65. Who in the backline will score better?
I'm not saying they'll outscore those 3, i thought it was pretty clear i was referring to fettucine, miers, parker, and cavarra

The other guys are bench options so not really critical what they score, as long as they make money in the long run. People also have Burgess as a swingman so it's really a moot point that the forward rookies are lacking. Most will only have 1 or 2 from the above group. I'd be more concerned about the backs to be honest, Clark & Collins very popular but also more expensive. That's why there is some sense in grabbing an extra mid pricer in defence.
The cash making ability is the issue. I don't see any of those guys (thus far) being able to generate much cash at this stage. Collins shouldn't be any higher than D5, and imo should be a safe bet for a 65-75avg. Personally i think it'll be better to pay a bit more for these back rookies (even if D6/7) than to have 2+ of those fwd rookies mentioned before.

But we'll see how they go this weekend along with who lines up rd1. There's always a couple of surprises.

RaisyDaisy

Devon Smith 3rd highest picked prem forward with 24%

I've never had him once, but after tonight's game I'm curious to see how much people jump off lol

Watch it drop below 20% in no time - good ol JLT knee jerking  ;D

Mat0369

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 12:06:56 PM
If you swing Burgess forward then there's very little difference with the personnel, I'd back Setterfield/Balta/Drew to outscore Hore/Quaynor/Logue/Duursma. Collins probably a 70 average but he's also pricey & many people are running with Roberton at D5.

Burgess is going to be on my bench. You could also start two of Clark/Collins and even Ridley on field. Of the three guys you mentioned you have Setters who is a lock, Balta with questionable JS and who knows how he scores come the real thing and Drew who has looked ok during pre-season but you would probably only feel comfortable rotating him and Balta at F6.

Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Problem is, half those guys would be lucky to avg 50 from what we've seen so far. Hopefully someone shows some decent scoring potential this weekend (excluding Balta and Drew)

This

No way you want to start any of those players on the field. They all have slow burn F8 feel about them. Maybe 1, no way I'd go near 2 or 3.

Bully

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 07, 2019, 10:19:12 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 12:06:56 PM
If you swing Burgess forward then there's very little difference with the personnel, I'd back Setterfield/Balta/Drew to outscore Hore/Quaynor/Logue/Duursma. Collins probably a 70 average but he's also pricey & many people are running with Roberton at D5.

Burgess is going to be on my bench. You could also start two of Clark/Collins and even Ridley on field. Of the three guys you mentioned you have Setters who is a lock, Balta with questionable JS and who knows how he scores come the real thing and Drew who has looked ok during pre-season but you would probably only feel comfortable rotating him and Balta at F6.

Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Problem is, half those guys would be lucky to avg 50 from what we've seen so far. Hopefully someone shows some decent scoring potential this weekend (excluding Balta and Drew)

This

No way you want to start any of those players on the field. They all have slow burn F8 feel about them. Maybe 1, no way I'd go near 2 or 3.

I'm using all the inside knowledge I'm privy to when it comes to Balta, Richmond don't want to play Grigg as second ruck anymore, that basically leaves Balta in the role. The fact he can play defence & forward means he'll be that plug & play type character, poor form won't save him but he's physically ready as far as I can see. Drew is another speculative type but given he's a mid who has DPP I'm bullish, I like my selections to be strong contested players & he fits the bill. The advantage with going light in the forward line is all the likely players are cheap as chips so you can afford to splurge on other lines.

quinny88

Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 11:39:13 PM
Quote from: Mat0369 on March 07, 2019, 10:19:12 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 07, 2019, 12:06:56 PM
If you swing Burgess forward then there's very little difference with the personnel, I'd back Setterfield/Balta/Drew to outscore Hore/Quaynor/Logue/Duursma. Collins probably a 70 average but he's also pricey & many people are running with Roberton at D5.

Burgess is going to be on my bench. You could also start two of Clark/Collins and even Ridley on field. Of the three guys you mentioned you have Setters who is a lock, Balta with questionable JS and who knows how he scores come the real thing and Drew who has looked ok during pre-season but you would probably only feel comfortable rotating him and Balta at F6.

Quote from: GoLions on March 07, 2019, 01:22:21 PM
Problem is, half those guys would be lucky to avg 50 from what we've seen so far. Hopefully someone shows some decent scoring potential this weekend (excluding Balta and Drew)

This

No way you want to start any of those players on the field. They all have slow burn F8 feel about them. Maybe 1, no way I'd go near 2 or 3.

I'm using all the inside knowledge I'm privy to when it comes to Balta, Richmond don't want to play Grigg as second ruck anymore, that basically leaves Balta in the role. The fact he can play defence & forward means he'll be that plug & play type character, poor form won't save him but he's physically ready as far as I can see. Drew is another speculative type but given he's a mid who has DPP I'm bullish, I like my selections to be strong contested players & he fits the bill. The advantage with going light in the forward line is all the likely players are cheap as chips so you can afford to splurge on other lines.

Leppitsch today made it sound unlikely they'd use Lynch in the ruck due to injury risk too. Balta getting more and more likely. Hopefully has a good game this wekend to seal his spot

quinny88

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 07, 2019, 10:05:25 PM
Devon Smith 3rd highest picked prem forward with 24%

I've never had him once, but after tonight's game I'm curious to see how much people jump off lol

Watch it drop below 20% in no time - good ol JLT knee jerking  ;D

Down to 23% over night  ;D

jvalles69

Really don't like the forward line this year past Danger, Heeney and Smith.  Currently rolling Danger, Heeney and Greene, but starting to look at other options.

Fisher - 3rd year breakout chance? 2nd year was a massive improvement from his 1st year, Cripps raves about him, more mid time, and looks full of confidence this year.
Dahlhaus - has proven to be a premium mid in the past, Cats midfield runs deep and it would depend if he can get more minutes than at the Dogs.
Darling - showerty bye and prob not worth the risk.
Kenedy/Riewoldt/Cameron - wait on these guys to see how the rule changes effect them.

LaHug

Quote from: jvalles69 on March 08, 2019, 01:54:27 PM
Really don't like the forward line this year past Danger, Heeney and Smith.  Currently rolling Danger, Heeney and Greene, but starting to look at other options.

Fisher - 3rd year breakout chance? 2nd year was a massive improvement from his 1st year, Cripps raves about him, more mid time, and looks full of confidence this year.
Dahlhaus - has proven to be a premium mid in the past, Cats midfield runs deep and it would depend if he can get more minutes than at the Dogs.
Darling - showerty bye and prob not worth the risk.
Kenedy/Riewoldt/Cameron - wait on these guys to see how the rule changes effect them.

Dahl, Darling, Kennedy all have the same showerty bye. I like my pick at the same price as a lot of that group but I'll probably change 5 or 6 more times...

jvalles69

Quote from: LaHug on March 08, 2019, 02:24:06 PM
Quote from: jvalles69 on March 08, 2019, 01:54:27 PM
Really don't like the forward line this year past Danger, Heeney and Smith.  Currently rolling Danger, Heeney and Greene, but starting to look at other options.

Fisher - 3rd year breakout chance? 2nd year was a massive improvement from his 1st year, Cripps raves about him, more mid time, and looks full of confidence this year.
Dahlhaus - has proven to be a premium mid in the past, Cats midfield runs deep and it would depend if he can get more minutes than at the Dogs.
Darling - showerty bye and prob not worth the risk.
Kenedy/Riewoldt/Cameron - wait on these guys to see how the rule changes effect them.

Dahl, Darling, Kennedy all have the same showerty bye. I like my pick at the same price as a lot of that group but I'll probably change 5 or 6 more times...

flowering showerty bye... ::)