2019 Defenders

Started by Southstorm, January 27, 2019, 09:17:55 PM

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RaisyDaisy

Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
people are going over the top with these kick ins. Its sounding like its the only way to be a good scorer as a defender.

Luke Brown crows leading kick in guy 71 SC average
Dunn 61 average
McKenna 74


its important but there are many more things then just kick ins to take notice of.

also just on Laird he had less then 1 kick in a game, so he wont be affected.

No one is saying the kick ins will effect guys like Laird? It's more the fact that Smith and Milera will cut into his overall possession count, and the numbers show that impacts his scoring

I think we've all seen by now that the kick in isn't going to make a big difference to SC scoring

LaHug

Quote from: walloo44 on March 15, 2019, 09:59:26 AM
@cleary_mitch: Saint Kilda defender Dylan Roberton will step aside from football in 2019

Oh shower for real? That makes structure way easier but is really sad too :(

sammy123

Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 10:26:53 AM
Quote from: walloo44 on March 15, 2019, 09:59:26 AM
@cleary_mitch: Saint Kilda defender Dylan Roberton will step aside from football in 2019

Oh shower for real? That makes structure way easier but is really sad too :(

Hope he can find a way to play again

frenzy

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 10:15:30 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
people are going over the top with these kick ins. Its sounding like its the only way to be a good scorer as a defender.

Luke Brown crows leading kick in guy 71 SC average
Dunn 61 average
McKenna 74


its important but there are many more things then just kick ins to take notice of.

also just on Laird he had less then 1 kick in a game, so he wont be affected.

No one is saying the kick ins will effect guys like Laird? It's more the fact that Smith and Milera will cut into his overall possession count, and the numbers show that impacts his scoring

I think we've all seen by now that the kick in isn't going to make a big difference to SC scoring

I thought Moore benefitted greatly from kick ins in JLT 2. Somebody posted the numbers on here.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: frenzy on March 15, 2019, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 10:15:30 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
people are going over the top with these kick ins. Its sounding like its the only way to be a good scorer as a defender.

Luke Brown crows leading kick in guy 71 SC average
Dunn 61 average
McKenna 74


its important but there are many more things then just kick ins to take notice of.

also just on Laird he had less then 1 kick in a game, so he wont be affected.

No one is saying the kick ins will effect guys like Laird? It's more the fact that Smith and Milera will cut into his overall possession count, and the numbers show that impacts his scoring

I think we've all seen by now that the kick in isn't going to make a big difference to SC scoring

I thought Moore benefitted greatly from kick ins in JLT 2. Somebody posted the numbers on here.

Talking about guys that already took kick ins. There's been plenty of analysis on it already that at best most of them might increase just a few ppg - won't be a huge difference

Brand new role for Moore though, which is much more SC friendly for someone as cheap as him and with his JS

Wanderer

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 12:45:19 PM
Quote from: frenzy on March 15, 2019, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 10:15:30 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
people are going over the top with these kick ins. Its sounding like its the only way to be a good scorer as a defender.

Luke Brown crows leading kick in guy 71 SC average
Dunn 61 average
McKenna 74


its important but there are many more things then just kick ins to take notice of.

also just on Laird he had less then 1 kick in a game, so he wont be affected.

No one is saying the kick ins will effect guys like Laird? It's more the fact that Smith and Milera will cut into his overall possession count, and the numbers show that impacts his scoring

I think we've all seen by now that the kick in isn't going to make a big difference to SC scoring

I thought Moore benefitted greatly from kick ins in JLT 2. Somebody posted the numbers on here.

Talking about guys that already took kick ins. There's been plenty of analysis on it already that at best most of them might increase just a few ppg - won't be a huge difference

Brand new role for Moore though, which is much more SC friendly for someone as cheap as him and with his JS

Moore is an easy decision especially the added benefit of DPP link with Burgess and the crappy Fwd rookie options. The only risk is injury, but can always trade him down to the next best rookie you don't have. He should score a decent amount of points to not be a liability and has potential upside there.

Bully

Quote from: Wanderer on March 15, 2019, 01:07:14 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 12:45:19 PM
Quote from: frenzy on March 15, 2019, 12:42:21 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 15, 2019, 10:15:30 AM
Quote from: Holz on March 15, 2019, 10:10:32 AM
people are going over the top with these kick ins. Its sounding like its the only way to be a good scorer as a defender.

Luke Brown crows leading kick in guy 71 SC average
Dunn 61 average
McKenna 74


its important but there are many more things then just kick ins to take notice of.

also just on Laird he had less then 1 kick in a game, so he wont be affected.

No one is saying the kick ins will effect guys like Laird? It's more the fact that Smith and Milera will cut into his overall possession count, and the numbers show that impacts his scoring

I think we've all seen by now that the kick in isn't going to make a big difference to SC scoring

I thought Moore benefitted greatly from kick ins in JLT 2. Somebody posted the numbers on here.

Talking about guys that already took kick ins. There's been plenty of analysis on it already that at best most of them might increase just a few ppg - won't be a huge difference

Brand new role for Moore though, which is much more SC friendly for someone as cheap as him and with his JS

Moore is an easy decision especially the added benefit of DPP link with Burgess and the crappy Fwd rookie options. The only risk is injury, but can always trade him down to the next best rookie you don't have. He should score a decent amount of points to not be a liability and has potential upside there.

Can trade down on two lines = limited risk / high reward

enzedder

Gutted for Robbo. Hope he can bounce back. He has always shown a lot of heart.
I rate him in our top few players with Steven, Carlisle, Steele and perhaps Gresham and Billings.

Rowe has been added as per the supplemental selection period.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: enzedder on March 15, 2019, 02:50:18 PM
Gutted for Robbo. Hope he can bounce back. He has always shown a lot of heart.
I rate him in our top few players with Steven, Carlisle, Steele and perhaps Gresham and Billings.

Rowe has been added as per the supplemental selection period.


reesbr

Really like Alex Rance as a pick this season, can see him getting back to 90+

LaHug

Quote from: reesbr on March 15, 2019, 03:19:49 PM
Really like Alex Rance as a pick this season, can see him getting back to 90+

6-6-6 rule will increase his spoils but decrease his intercept marking as he can't be a third man up. I don't like it.

Gavdroid

Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: reesbr on March 15, 2019, 03:19:49 PM
Really like Alex Rance as a pick this season, can see him getting back to 90+

6-6-6 rule will increase his spoils but decrease his intercept marking as he can't be a third man up. I don't like it.

Not so sure. He reads the play so well I still think he'll get to plenty of 3rd man up situations. 6-6-6 rule is only for centre bounces. Still loves to run off his man as an attacking option as well.

dmac07

Getting more and more tempted by Crisp as a POD to the standard picks. I assume his % is low if anyone knows?

crowls

Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: reesbr on March 15, 2019, 03:19:49 PM
Really like Alex Rance as a pick this season, can see him getting back to 90+

6-6-6 rule will increase his spoils but decrease his intercept marking as he can't be a third man up. I don't like it.
agree with LH, see the scoring in def being running backs,  metres gained, i50, o50 -  shower sounds more like NFL than AFL.   Mobile backmen that provide the rebound and drive from the backline.   
As for Laird, he is not going to fall over and stop scoring, it is just he will not be getting his hand on the ball as much.  2 Crouches, Milera, Smith, the sook sorry sloaney etc,   has to impact his scoring so why why pay for his absolute best.  Not worth it.  pick him up at 450 at some stage.

Wanderer

Quote from: crowls on March 15, 2019, 07:36:01 PM
Quote from: LaHug on March 15, 2019, 04:41:45 PM
Quote from: reesbr on March 15, 2019, 03:19:49 PM
Really like Alex Rance as a pick this season, can see him getting back to 90+

6-6-6 rule will increase his spoils but decrease his intercept marking as he can't be a third man up. I don't like it.
agree with LH, see the scoring in def being running backs,  metres gained, i50, o50 -  shower sounds more like NFL than AFL.   Mobile backmen that provide the rebound and drive from the backline.   
As for Laird, he is not going to fall over and stop scoring, it is just he will not be getting his hand on the ball as much.  2 Crouches, Milera, Smith, the sook sorry sloaney etc,   has to impact his scoring so why why pay for his absolute best.  Not worth it.  pick him up at 450 at some stage.
But then again there are a few of those Crows players listed there that are a little fragile, but definitely lots of mouths to feed.