2019 Defenders

Started by Southstorm, January 27, 2019, 09:17:55 PM

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Bully

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2019, 01:46:01 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 13, 2019, 01:38:03 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2019, 01:32:54 PM
Quote from: Bully on March 13, 2019, 12:53:13 PM
Quote from: _wato on March 13, 2019, 12:40:48 PM
Roberton big time locked. Richo and the docs have already said they've been over cautious with what happened on the weekend.

Any matter of things could cause a player to feel light headed. Yes Robbo is a different case but don't think it's as bad as everyone is making out.

Being rational about it, if we didn't here about the news he would be a lock based on performance.

But we did, and it's pretty damn serious

I want to start him, I really do because he's a bargain, but if he's going to have continual health concerns which lead to missing games then I don't want a bar of it

I've currently got Moore in, but have 60k sitting there just in case ;)

It is serious but with the amount of tests he's being put through you have to take the doctors on their word.

The Doctors gave him the all clear and he lasted 2 matches. This isn't some injury that recovers - the heart could result in anything.  Unfortunately I'm probably sticking firm and passing on him

He finished the match though, think there's an element of over cautiousness in this particular case. If he's cleared for round 1 then I'm buying in.

eaglesman

Williams is currently my d1

Rolling with a few of star prems forwArd.

Money Shot

Quote from: eaglesman on March 13, 2019, 03:19:48 PM
Williams is currently my d1

Rolling with a few of star prems forwArd.
I’m following suit.

Matt Crouch at M6
Grundy/Gawn
Greene at F4

eaglesman

Quote from: Money Shot on March 13, 2019, 03:50:52 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 13, 2019, 03:19:48 PM
Williams is currently my d1

Rolling with a few of star prems forwArd.
I’m following suit.

Matt Crouch at M6
Grundy/Gawn
Greene at F4

Gee duno how you can afford matt crouch at m6 ... well done though

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: eaglesman on March 13, 2019, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 13, 2019, 03:50:52 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 13, 2019, 03:19:48 PM
Williams is currently my d1

Rolling with a few of star prems forwArd.
I’m following suit.

Matt Crouch at M6
Grundy/Gawn
Greene at F4

Gee duno how you can afford matt crouch at m6 ... well done though

Probably has Darcy Moore/Roberton as D3 ?

jbjimmyjb

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 13, 2019, 04:47:38 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 13, 2019, 04:10:36 PM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 13, 2019, 03:50:52 PM
Quote from: eaglesman on March 13, 2019, 03:19:48 PM
Williams is currently my d1

Rolling with a few of star prems forwArd.
I’m following suit.

Matt Crouch at M6
Grundy/Gawn
Greene at F4

Gee duno how you can afford matt crouch at m6 ... well done though

Probably has Darcy Moore/Roberton as D3 ?
Yea, his defence is Williams, Smith, Roberton + 3 rookies.

Mat0369

I'm probably rolling without Zac Williams. I went back and looked at his scores the last two years he played. 2016 he had 4 tons (105, 110, 107 and the whopping 141) and 2017 he had 6 (109, 120, 109, 145, 139, 119).

When he goes big, he goes big, but he also average 83 from around the bye through finals in 2017 and has some real lean patches with multiple stinkers in a row in both seasons.

He is probably a 90 average defender which is certainly good at his price, but I don't think I'm going to lose all that much passing on him, especially if he starts in a rut with multiple crap scores in a row and people jump off with correction trades.

Bully

Quote from: Mat0369 on March 13, 2019, 09:56:40 PM
I'm probably rolling without Zac Williams. I went back and looked at his scores the last two years he played. 2016 he had 4 tons (105, 110, 107 and the whopping 141) and 2017 he had 6 (109, 120, 109, 145, 139, 119).

When he goes big, he goes big, but he also average 83 from around the bye through finals in 2017 and has some real lean patches with multiple stinkers in a row in both seasons.

He is probably a 90 average defender which is certainly good at his price, but I don't think I'm going to lose all that much passing on him, especially if he starts in a rut with multiple crap scores in a row and people jump off with correction trades.

With all the uncertainty he's a no-brainer.

Mat0369

Probably going to depend on how you structure up. If you were going to go one top end guy with Brodie Smithat D2 and Roberton at D3 he is expendable. Could also be one of those situations where not starting him gives you a leg up on the 33% of teams that do

Money Shot

#384
Is Pearce Hanley a viable back up option if Roberton doesn’t get up? Has never really gotten a go at the suns and has proven scoring isn’t an issue. Cheap enough that he doesn’t have to be a keeper. Has had 5 seasons where he has averaged over 85. Am I clenching at straws here?

He did score 76 from 54% TOG on the weekend

kilbluff1985

is hurn an ok pick? really cant find anyone im comfortable paying up for atleast he has durability and kickin might help him

Gigantor

Quote from: Money Shot on March 14, 2019, 09:23:21 AM
Is Pearce Hanley a viable back up option if Roberton doesn’t get up? Has never really gotten a go at the suns and has proven scoring isn’t an issue. Cheap enough that he doesn’t have to be a keeper. Has had 5 seasons where he has averaged over 85. Am I clenching at straws here?

He did score 76 from 54% TOG on the weekend

Nothing wrong with his scoring potential its always just been his body, will consider him if Roboo is out

TommyC

Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 14, 2019, 09:43:11 AM
is hurn an ok pick? really cant find anyone im comfortable paying up for atleast he has durability and kickin might help him
I'm considering going him over Whitfield.
Is consistent and should average around the 100 - 105 mark.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: TommyC on March 14, 2019, 09:45:57 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 14, 2019, 09:43:11 AM
is hurn an ok pick? really cant find anyone im comfortable paying up for atleast he has durability and kickin might help him
I'm considering going him over Whitfield.
Is consistent and should average around the 100 - 105 mark.

Has never averaged near 100 his entire career. 100-105 sounds pretty ambitious

Mid to high 90's is where I would think he lands, similar to last year, maybe an extra ppg or two

Shouldn't drop a heap in cash, which is probably appealing as the top guys most likely will

LaHug

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 14, 2019, 11:05:43 AM
Quote from: TommyC on March 14, 2019, 09:45:57 AM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 14, 2019, 09:43:11 AM
is hurn an ok pick? really cant find anyone im comfortable paying up for atleast he has durability and kickin might help him
I'm considering going him over Whitfield.
Is consistent and should average around the 100 - 105 mark.

Has never averaged near 100 his entire career. 100-105 sounds pretty ambitious

Mid to high 90's is where I would think he lands, similar to last year, maybe an extra ppg or two

Shouldn't drop a heap in cash, which is probably appealing as the top guys most likely will

If we go by the JLT kick-ins (and we probably should take them with a HUGE grain of salt), he played on 9 times. Assuming 2/3 of these kicks will be effective and no clangers (at least incredibly rare from a long kick-in), that's an extra 3 effective kicks or 12 points per game. I'm not saying it will happen, but he has one of the biggest upsides from the kick-in rule and very little downside due to his usual consistent scoring. I don't have the cash to bring him in unless I drop Roberton to Moore, Boak to someone under $463k, Gawn to Goldy, or ditch a mid-pricer (Smith, Crouch, Libba, Greene). Not sure I want to do any of that just to upgrade Witherden to Hurn but it's tempting.