2019 Defenders

Started by Southstorm, January 27, 2019, 09:17:55 PM

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Holz

Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2019, 08:17:39 PM
Quote from: crowls on March 04, 2019, 06:24:55 PM
Quote from: hawkers65 on March 04, 2019, 05:27:38 PM
Quote from: kilbluff1985 on March 04, 2019, 05:08:10 PM
b smith will average more then z williams there i said it

Fairy Land
B smith,  where is the history showing his capacity and likelihood of going 90+.   Every year its the same, B Smith this and B Smith that and it always ends the same.   Downside just seems so much higher than upside.   Whitfield, Williams, Heater, Simpson, Mills, Lloyd, Crisp, Witherdon, Sicily all options to assess over the first half.   Why even bother with Smith.

Because he's only 150k more than most of the rookies, I place him in the same boat as Roberton, not someone you'd pick in the 450k region but certainly viable as a mid pricer with upside & guaranteed earnings potential. Smith & Roberton come in at just over 600k, I think you'd be very hard pressed to come up with a better combo using the same dosh.

He is 330k

Thats 200k more then jones durrsma hore burgees.

For 70k more you can get williams.

Roberton is a fine pick as he is 30k cheaper and has gone 90+


Toby Greene is 20k more and mucg betted then smith

Mat0369

Smith has gone 90+ before. It's been a while, but lets not pretend he hasn't. What's funny is people are willing to pick spuds like Darcy Moore, Roberton coming off a heart issue playing a different role and just about any other hack taking kick out duties but Smith is some rubbish player that has no shot of being a legitimate stepping stone for a fickle position.

Defense has always been the line to go cheap. Lloyd, Sicily, Hurn and Crisp were all that awkward 400k range last year. Smith will have a fantasy friendly role at the Crows and they will want the ball in his hands along with Milera. He was the kickout king at the Crows before his injury. The only reason he may be fools gold right now is we don't know if Luke Brown is the preferred kickout option since it was his job last year. At 330k you're also not picking him as a keeper, it would be as a stepping stone that you can turn into a premium at another point. His scoring won't be that different from Roberton

RaisyDaisy

Feeling good about my def now

1 500k + player, 1 450-500k player, Williams, Roberton, Collins, Clark/Duursma with Burgess/Hore/Jones bench

Beautiful

enzedder

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 05, 2019, 12:13:12 AM
Feeling good about my def now

1 500k + player, 1 450-500k player, Williams, Roberton, Collins, Clark/Duursma with Burgess/Hore/Jones bench

Beautiful
Same. Looks standard and rather easy to come to. Laird and Lloyd have never been in my plans, upgrade targets for me.
Defence doesn’t look like it will cause many headaches.

RaisyDaisy

Looking like Sicily is going to be the swingman, playing forward and back, and according to HS will rotate with Gunston

Not sure I'd want to be starting him now - could be quite inconsistent now if he does play at both ends

crowls

Sicily was on the margin for first half of the season and now is definitely a wait and see  Perhaps Hawks might move him down back later in the year.   

hawkers65

Gunston has been a swingman for some time and has been so consistent in SC as a result. You keep in mind even if he is a swingman he'll still be playing more back than fwd. But he is coming off a 105, realistically a swingman wont hit that.

Southstorm

Hooker to miss six weeks with a calf, Ridley should now be a lock.

crowls

not sure where you fit Ridley in?   What are you expecting from him?   I dont have the cash to upgrade a collins or clark and dont want to downgrade roberton.  Not sure he is a viable option at the price point.

Southstorm

Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2019, 11:33:35 AM
not sure where you fit Ridley in?   What are you expecting from him?   I dont have the cash to upgrade a collins or clark and dont want to downgrade roberton.  Not sure he is a viable option at the price point.
D5 at the expense of Collins, much better prospect IMO for $50k extra.

crowls

I can see collins may turn into a slow burn.  if you need cash trade down a zerrett, matt crouch type if you have one in the mids to b crouch.  save 100K plus for similar output. 

imjusflexin

Quote from: Southstorm on March 05, 2019, 12:01:17 PM
Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2019, 11:33:35 AM
not sure where you fit Ridley in?   What are you expecting from him?   I dont have the cash to upgrade a collins or clark and dont want to downgrade roberton.  Not sure he is a viable option at the price point.
D5 at the expense of Collins, much better prospect IMO for $50k extra.
Couldn't agree less.. Ridley is a nice young player but would be surprised if he's played ahead of Ambrose, Hartley etc, while Collins seems pretty safe in the best 22.

kilbluff1985

Adelaide: Luke Brown (Ankle) will undergo surgery, out for 2 months


good news for b smith will take most of the kick ins now

AaronKirk

Quote from: Southstorm on March 05, 2019, 11:20:51 AM
Hooker to miss six weeks with a calf, Ridley should now be a lock.

Depends how our defense sets up. Hurley and Ambrose to play 1v1 roles with Francis the intercept mark player with Saad/McKenna/McGrath etc the smaller defenders.

Wouldn't be rushing him in. 1 bad game in the seniors if Ridley is picked and he could be back to reserve grade. He is an awkward price.

Southstorm

Quote from: AaronKirk on March 05, 2019, 09:29:43 PM
Quote from: Southstorm on March 05, 2019, 11:20:51 AM
Hooker to miss six weeks with a calf, Ridley should now be a lock.

Depends how our defense sets up. Hurley and Ambrose to play 1v1 roles with Francis the intercept mark player with Saad/McKenna/McGrath etc the smaller defenders.

Wouldn't be rushing him in. 1 bad game in the seniors if Ridley is picked and he could be back to reserve grade. He is an awkward price.
I think he's worth the punt. Last year we always seemed to go 3 tall and 3 small with Goddard loose at half back. His biggest competition IMHO was Francis, but he'll now be third tall for sure with Hooker going down for six weeks. Gleeson & Redman won't be back to pressure his spot anytime soon either.

Another good performance in JLT2 and I'll definitely be squeezing him in.