2019 Defenders

Started by Southstorm, January 27, 2019, 09:17:55 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

TableKing

I know its JLT but Nic Newman was quality tonight. Has definitely got me thinking about making him fit.
Seemed like an easy 90pt game tonight. Anyone else thinking the same?

Bones Bombers

Quote from: TableKing on February 28, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
I know its JLT but Nic Newman was quality tonight. Has definitely got me thinking about making him fit.
Seemed like an easy 90pt game tonight. Anyone else thinking the same?
I have had him D4 almost all preseason. Took him out to experiment for a while but he has been back in for couple of weeks now and I don't think he'll be going out. I know that price is usually a difficult one but I'm thinking he'll become a keeper with the role they need him to play.

Watch his ownership percentage jump now haha.

RaisyDaisy

Newman is going to sucker in so many people now  ;D

Don't get me wrong, he's a decent player and he showed at Sydney that he is capable of scoring, but whether he can actually do it week in week out all season long? I still think he's fools gold and ends up in the 85ish range, which won't be good enough

quinny88

Quote from: Bones Bombers on February 28, 2019, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: TableKing on February 28, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
I know its JLT but Nic Newman was quality tonight. Has definitely got me thinking about making him fit.
Seemed like an easy 90pt game tonight. Anyone else thinking the same?
I have had him D4 almost all preseason. Took him out to experiment for a while but he has been back in for couple of weeks now and I don't think he'll be going out. I know that price is usually a difficult one but I'm thinking he'll become a keeper with the role they need him to play.

Watch his ownership percentage jump now haha.

He looked good but still think he will average about 85-90 which is just awkward in a year where there is likely to be lots of 100+ defenders. McGrath impressed me more playing a lot on the wing and is cheaper than Newman

elephants

Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2019, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on February 28, 2019, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: TableKing on February 28, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
I know its JLT but Nic Newman was quality tonight. Has definitely got me thinking about making him fit.
Seemed like an easy 90pt game tonight. Anyone else thinking the same?
I have had him D4 almost all preseason. Took him out to experiment for a while but he has been back in for couple of weeks now and I don't think he'll be going out. I know that price is usually a difficult one but I'm thinking he'll become a keeper with the role they need him to play.

Watch his ownership percentage jump now haha.

He looked good but still think he will average about 85-90 which is just awkward in a year where there is likely to be lots of 100+ defenders. McGrath impressed me more playing a lot on the wing and is cheaper than Newman

Wouldn't read too much into it, Essendon had most of their top line mids on a strict rotation policy

quinny88

Quote from: elephants on February 28, 2019, 10:53:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2019, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on February 28, 2019, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: TableKing on February 28, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
I know its JLT but Nic Newman was quality tonight. Has definitely got me thinking about making him fit.
Seemed like an easy 90pt game tonight. Anyone else thinking the same?
I have had him D4 almost all preseason. Took him out to experiment for a while but he has been back in for couple of weeks now and I don't think he'll be going out. I know that price is usually a difficult one but I'm thinking he'll become a keeper with the role they need him to play.

Watch his ownership percentage jump now haha.

He looked good but still think he will average about 85-90 which is just awkward in a year where there is likely to be lots of 100+ defenders. McGrath impressed me more playing a lot on the wing and is cheaper than Newman

Wouldn't read too much into it, Essendon had most of their top line mids on a strict rotation policy

Definitely, but the bomber camp has been saying McGrath is moving into the midfield so was good to see it in action

AaronKirk

#216
Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2019, 11:44:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 28, 2019, 10:53:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2019, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on February 28, 2019, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: TableKing on February 28, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
I know its JLT but Nic Newman was quality tonight. Has definitely got me thinking about making him fit.
Seemed like an easy 90pt game tonight. Anyone else thinking the same?
I have had him D4 almost all preseason. Took him out to experiment for a while but he has been back in for couple of weeks now and I don't think he'll be going out. I know that price is usually a difficult one but I'm thinking he'll become a keeper with the role they need him to play.

Watch his ownership percentage jump now haha.

He looked good but still think he will average about 85-90 which is just awkward in a year where there is likely to be lots of 100+ defenders. McGrath impressed me more playing a lot on the wing and is cheaper than Newman

Wouldn't read too much into it, Essendon had most of their top line mids on a strict rotation policy

Definitely, but the bomber camp has been saying McGrath is moving into the midfield so was good to see it in action

I tend to agree with you Quinny but given the low TOG percentages of mids such as Shiel and Zerrett tonight we need to see what they do with McGrath in the latter JLT when we have a proper practice match crack.

I'm pretty sure we will be resting a lot of players for JLT 2 so we have to see what we do in the other practice game.

ben_020285

Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2019, 11:44:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 28, 2019, 10:53:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2019, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on February 28, 2019, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: TableKing on February 28, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
I know its JLT but Nic Newman was quality tonight. Has definitely got me thinking about making him fit.
Seemed like an easy 90pt game tonight. Anyone else thinking the same?
I have had him D4 almost all preseason. Took him out to experiment for a while but he has been back in for couple of weeks now and I don't think he'll be going out. I know that price is usually a difficult one but I'm thinking he'll become a keeper with the role they need him to play.

Watch his ownership percentage jump now haha.

He looked good but still think he will average about 85-90 which is just awkward in a year where there is likely to be lots of 100+ defenders. McGrath impressed me more playing a lot on the wing and is cheaper than Newman

Wouldn't read too much into it, Essendon had most of their top line mids on a strict rotation policy

Definitely, but the bomber camp has been saying McGrath is moving into the midfield so was good to see it in action

The Bomber camp said that about McGrath last season too..

elephants

Quote from: ben_020285 on March 01, 2019, 08:06:21 AM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2019, 11:44:07 PM
Quote from: elephants on February 28, 2019, 10:53:40 PM
Quote from: quinny88 on February 28, 2019, 10:24:32 PM
Quote from: Bones Bombers on February 28, 2019, 10:10:50 PM
Quote from: TableKing on February 28, 2019, 09:47:52 PM
I know its JLT but Nic Newman was quality tonight. Has definitely got me thinking about making him fit.
Seemed like an easy 90pt game tonight. Anyone else thinking the same?
I have had him D4 almost all preseason. Took him out to experiment for a while but he has been back in for couple of weeks now and I don't think he'll be going out. I know that price is usually a difficult one but I'm thinking he'll become a keeper with the role they need him to play.

Watch his ownership percentage jump now haha.

He looked good but still think he will average about 85-90 which is just awkward in a year where there is likely to be lots of 100+ defenders. McGrath impressed me more playing a lot on the wing and is cheaper than Newman

Wouldn't read too much into it, Essendon had most of their top line mids on a strict rotation policy

Definitely, but the bomber camp has been saying McGrath is moving into the midfield so was good to see it in action

The Bomber camp said that about McGrath last season too..

Yep, and McGrath said it himself too. I believe it will happen more than last year but I doubt we are going to see him in there full time this year

RaisyDaisy

In a side that has Heppell, Shiel, Zerrett, Zaha, Smith, Langford etc I would say there is next to no chance McGrath gets near 90+

Even last night - most of those guys barely played whilst he played mostly mid and still only scored 85

Will be a good long term player for the Dons, but I just can't see him being SC relevant this year/soon. Nice player to have for keeper leagues, but won't go near Top 10 SC DEF

eaglesman

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on March 01, 2019, 10:46:45 AM
In a side that has Heppell, Shiel, Zerrett, Zaha, Smith, Langford etc I would say there is next to no chance McGrath gets near 90+

Even last night - most of those guys barely played whilst he played mostly mid and still only scored 85

Will be a good long term player for the Dons, but I just can't see him being SC relevant this year/soon. Nice player to have for keeper leagues, but won't go near Top 10 SC DEF

Would not be in my top 30 considerations ...

frenzy

Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 28, 2019, 10:24:10 PM
Newman is going to sucker in so many people now  ;D

Don't get me wrong, he's a decent player and he showed at Sydney that he is capable of scoring, but whether he can actually do it week in week out all season long? I still think he's fools gold and ends up in the 85ish range, which won't be good enough

We were spoilt last season having 4 defenders go 100+ and it wasn't that far back we were happy to have players like Simmo go 90 flat for the season after season. So 85 from Newman could well be enough, who knows. Newman would have finished inside last seasons top ten with an 85.

Ricochet

Quote from: frenzy on March 01, 2019, 07:06:52 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 28, 2019, 10:24:10 PM
Newman is going to sucker in so many people now  ;D

Don't get me wrong, he's a decent player and he showed at Sydney that he is capable of scoring, but whether he can actually do it week in week out all season long? I still think he's fools gold and ends up in the 85ish range, which won't be good enough

We were spoilt last season having 4 defenders go 100+ and it wasn't that far back we were happy to have players like Simmo go 90 flat for the season after season. So 85 from Newman could well be enough, who knows. Newman would have finished inside last seasons top ten with an 85.
I reckon it'll be unlikely that 85 will be enough frenzy, especially with some players benefiting from the new kick-in rules

frenzy

Quote from: Ricochet on March 01, 2019, 07:26:51 PM
Quote from: frenzy on March 01, 2019, 07:06:52 PM
Quote from: RaisyDaisy on February 28, 2019, 10:24:10 PM
Newman is going to sucker in so many people now  ;D

Don't get me wrong, he's a decent player and he showed at Sydney that he is capable of scoring, but whether he can actually do it week in week out all season long? I still think he's fools gold and ends up in the 85ish range, which won't be good enough

We were spoilt last season having 4 defenders go 100+ and it wasn't that far back we were happy to have players like Simmo go 90 flat for the season after season. So 85 from Newman could well be enough, who knows. Newman would have finished inside last seasons top ten with an 85.
I reckon it'll be unlikely that 85 will be enough frenzy, especially with some players benefiting from the new kick-in rules

maybe ? I think I need new crystal ball

Mat0369

I'm thinking if there is a year and a line to grab mid price options, this is the year and the backs are the spot.

There is a strategy in NFL Fantasy Football called 0 Running Back (RB). It's basically that there are X amount of guys that are pure starters in the NFL that are worthy of their draft position. The idea is you draft guys in positions where you are more likely to get a known quantity early before filling out the rest of your team and getting guys that look like they could be in decent spots and produce. RB you typically have 2 or 3 guys that put up huge points and the rest appear to be a cluster. So once you don't have a shot of that 2 or 3 you wait for that cluster as long as possible.

Salary cap leagues are a bit different since everyone can start the same players. However backs this year have the same feel. You have two or three guys you could pony up the cash for and then the field is much of the same.

I think the value of guys like Mills, Newman, Williams, Roberton, Smith and even Witherden are too hard to pass up. You have guys in great situations that could very well be not that far off those 4 guys that cost 120-273k more and they are going to at worst be in that 2nd cluster of guys.

I'd be tempted to go '0 back' and not start any defender over 500k while loading up on the cheaper guys. You could also use guys like Brodie Smith and Dylan Roberton as stepping stones for those guys currently sitting north of 570k, Laird is the only guy I am considering in the upper echelon right now.