Bully's Boys 2019

Started by Bully, January 26, 2019, 07:42:09 PM

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Keeper27

very strong side, I LIKE IT. hold on for now


check out and rate MY TEAM, any advice is appreciated and welcome.

Bully



Here's another combo if Greene & Bennell get up for round 1, mids look uber strong on paper with no obvious weak links. Defense strong with Rozee/Collins at D5, rucks set & forget, forwards solid & I would be viewing Greene as a cash cow with some potential to be a keeper. Still keen on Wingard but hard to definitely state his role. Miles vs Hanners still in the air.

Nige

Like the team you've got here, Bully.

Personally I'd be looking at alternatives to Whitfield and Greene. I was originally on board, but now I'm not overly sure what Whitfield's role is, but I think him moving back to a wing won't be as kind to his scoring as his 2018 role was. With Greene, it's just that him not having much of a pre-season coupled with him being guaranteed to miss with injury or suspension at some point means I rather someone else. In the event he doesn't get up, are you intending to upgrade him or downgrade him?

Bully

Quote from: Nige on February 07, 2019, 09:16:36 PM
Like the team you've got here, Bully.

Personally I'd be looking at alternatives to Whitfield and Greene. I was originally on board, but now I'm not overly sure what Whitfield's role is, but I think him moving back to a wing won't be as kind to his scoring as his 2018 role was. With Greene, it's just that him not having much of a pre-season coupled with him being guaranteed to miss with injury or suspension at some point means I rather someone else. In the event he doesn't get up, are you intending to upgrade him or downgrade him?

Some interesting points, I'll start by addressing Whitfield who I believe is still good value whether or not he plays in defense or on a wing. First point is he's undervalued due to a steep learning curve in the first 10 rounds, he even acknowledged he was a student in the role. If you also factor in his 135 & 132 in finals then he should be up there with all the top defenders. As for the wing, he still averaged 97 there so not a biggie, there's also the hedge betting if he works in tandem with Williams, you basically get a mortgage on all the kick outs irrespective of who takes them. Can't see Heater having a huge influence this year.

On Greene, yes, suspension prone, injury prone but he's still dirt cheap, 354k is right on the cusp of good value but there's still 100-150k in price rises available if he strings some good games together. He's been running for 4-5 weeks so he'll still have the miles, I reckon if he's rusty it will only take a couple of games to get him going. Probably on par with Bundy from last year.

In the event he doesn't get up I'll look at a rookie & then bumping Miles up to a proven premo, probably Kelly.

Bully



Quite a few changes from the side I posted last month but I'm liking this structure as I don't see too many glaring holes. Quite a few mid pricers but that's ok, this year nothing is really clear in defence or the forward line. Greene needs to get up in time, that's the only real concern & could really shake things up. 22k in the kitty so have some flexibility with the liikes of Hately, Butters, LDU etc.

maygs

Looks good - a bit different but good.

I'm going to give Dusty a couple of JLT games before I think about dropping 'old faithful' - but I do really like the Macrae, Oliver and BCrouch picks.

Defenders have me confused this year more than most.  While just guessing, I see Williams, Smith and Roberton each scoring the same or very similar to Laird and Whitfield all year.  I guess that Mills, Newman, Sicily may also fit into the same group.  If I'm right then Laird and Whitfield (and the other DEF premos) are not worth the extra $$

I think with the depth of DEF mid-pricers and rookies this year you can run without top priced defenders.

The extra coin could move Drew into the Mids - for his DPP - for Scott - and upgrade the concerning Greene to say a Mundy or similar.

I hope Balta has bought his way into the top 22 with his performance this weekend.

Bully

Some good points, I think the only issue with that strategy is the fact you may need to upgrade the entire backline in the event you pick the wrong players. It would be disastrous if all the defensive players averaged 85-90 while the top 6 were 95-105. I think I've picked the two safe bets in Laird & Whitfield & hopefully get 1 keeper out of Williams/Robbo/Smith. That leaves 3 upgrades which is doable, there will be 3-4 in the mids & 3 in the forward line too.

As far as Mundy is concerned, tempting but he's 33 & may be mothballed as he considers retirement, particularly if Freo are out of finals contention, these things can happen. Forward line is a real head scratcher which is why I've gone light. If it's anything like last year there will be some unlikely bolters. 

eaglesman

Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2019, 11:51:43 AM
Some good points, I think the only issue with that strategy is the fact you may need to upgrade the entire backline in the event you pick the wrong players. It would be disastrous if all the defensive players averaged 85-90 while the top 6 were 95-105. I think I've picked the two safe bets in Laird & Whitfield & hopefully get 1 keeper out of Williams/Robbo/Smith. That leaves 3 upgrades which is doable, there will be 3-4 in the mids & 3 in the forward line too.

As far as Mundy is concerned, tempting but he's 33 & may be mothballed as he considers retirement, particularly if Freo are out of finals contention, these things can happen. Forward line is a real head scratcher which is why I've gone light. If it's anything like last year there will be some unlikely bolters.

Yeah can’t work out the Mundy appeal at all. Hoping more and more people pick him.

RaisyDaisy

Quote from: eaglesman on March 04, 2019, 11:53:43 AM
Quote from: Bully on March 04, 2019, 11:51:43 AM
Some good points, I think the only issue with that strategy is the fact you may need to upgrade the entire backline in the event you pick the wrong players. It would be disastrous if all the defensive players averaged 85-90 while the top 6 were 95-105. I think I've picked the two safe bets in Laird & Whitfield & hopefully get 1 keeper out of Williams/Robbo/Smith. That leaves 3 upgrades which is doable, there will be 3-4 in the mids & 3 in the forward line too.

As far as Mundy is concerned, tempting but he's 33 & may be mothballed as he considers retirement, particularly if Freo are out of finals contention, these things can happen. Forward line is a real head scratcher which is why I've gone light. If it's anything like last year there will be some unlikely bolters.

Yeah can’t work out the Mundy appeal at all. Hoping more and more people pick him.

What can't you work out?

Neale and Blakely are gone, Hill is cooked, so Mundy will be side by side with Fyfe in the guts. He's even said himself he will be playing more mid this year

As for his age, he's durable as hell, just like Simmo.

Bully

My main concern with Mundy is Ross turning around & saying 'we're out of contention, you're 34 & ready for retirement so I'll be getting games into the youngsters'. That happens often & I suspect this will be Mundy's last year if the window is closing.

On the other hand, Freo may surprise with Lobb & Hogan in the side, that is a fair leap of faith but not impossible.

Money Shot

The more I look at the forward line with Greene at F3 then rookies the more I like it.

Gray is my current F3 but he could end up being an average pick.

In regards to your team I really like it. Going 5 deep in the defence looks pretty damn good.

crowls

Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2019, 10:30:39 AM
The more I look at the forward line with Greene at F3 then rookies the more I like it.

Gray is my current F3 but he could end up being an average pick.

In regards to your team I really like it. Going 5 deep in the defence looks pretty damn good.
just cannot see the reason for Brodie Smith.   never been a consistent SC scorer.  yes he tons up occasionally but he spuds up more often.

hope he plays the first half of the season like last year.  suck in lots of corrective trades.

TommyC

Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2019, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2019, 10:30:39 AM
The more I look at the forward line with Greene at F3 then rookies the more I like it.

Gray is my current F3 but he could end up being an average pick.

In regards to your team I really like it. Going 5 deep in the defence looks pretty damn good.
just cannot see the reason for Brodie Smith.   never been a consistent SC scorer.  yes he tons up occasionally but he spuds up more often.

hope he plays the first half of the season like last year.  suck in lots of corrective trades.
This

Bully

Quote from: crowls on March 05, 2019, 10:37:35 AM
Quote from: Money Shot on March 05, 2019, 10:30:39 AM
The more I look at the forward line with Greene at F3 then rookies the more I like it.

Gray is my current F3 but he could end up being an average pick.

In regards to your team I really like it. Going 5 deep in the defence looks pretty damn good.
just cannot see the reason for Brodie Smith.   never been a consistent SC scorer.  yes he tons up occasionally but he spuds up more often.

hope he plays the first half of the season like last year.  suck in lots of corrective trades.

He didn't play last year so that's a moot point, aside from that he won't lose money & should put on 100k. Would take an 85 average & I think he's capable. The backs this year are really tough to predict, including the rookies who have dubious job security. The big risk with Smith is he can throw in some shockers so there is an element of Russian Roulette, but I'm taking heart in the fact his last 13 matches have yielded seven 90+ scores.

kilbluff1985

defenders taking kickins are expected to do better which b smith will take especially with luke brown out, Smiths long kicking will be pretty useful with playing on to

he is a better stepping stone option then Collins

i wouldn't have Clark on the bench tho i probs trade collins to hore and put clark onfield

don;t think 3 rookie fwds onfield is the way to go either rather cousins/gray onfield opposed to b crouch/balta etc