2019 Premium Mids

[_wato]

God there’s some overreaction. He scored a 66, and yes it’s not amazing but Richmond had 2 guys score above 80, that’s the more damning stat. They got obliterated. Dusty tonight was not so much a result of his own work but more the fact the team was absolutely horrible. Overall, 1200 SC as a team v Pies 2000+, only two times in history that has happened.

Dusty was on 45 at the half before everything went pear shaped and he was put forward to try and create a score once JRoo went down. But in saying that, happy for you to all to trade. 100+ Gonna back him in. And if you’re worried about his tackle count his career count is whacked, a lot of 0 and 1 tackle games coupled with 6 and 7. As I said, overreaction.

[MontyJnr]

Martin's 2017 was one out of the box, anyone who thinks he'll replicate or top that is kidding themselves. That being said, he should still be good for 100-110, more than good enough for M8.

Dusty is actually so overrated, the bloke has only averaged over 108 once. He isn’t top 8 midfielder material for mine.

Would pick him if available as a forward though.

[Mat0369]

If Riewoldt has damaged that wrist expect more Dusty forward.

[RaisyDaisy]

God there’s some overreaction. He scored a 66, and yes it’s not amazing but Richmond had 2 guys score above 80, that’s the more damning stat. They got obliterated. Dusty tonight was not so much a result of his own work but more the fact the team was absolutely horrible. Overall, 1200 SC as a team v Pies 2000+, only two times in history that has happened.

Dusty was on 45 at the half before everything went pear shaped and he was put forward to try and create a score once JRoo went down. But in saying that, happy for you to all to trade. 100+ Gonna back him in. And if you’re worried about his tackle count his career count is whacked, a lot of 0 and 1 tackle games coupled with 6 and 7. As I said, overreaction.

Might be an overreaction, but you can't tell me there isn't something unsettling about having him every week? He is the one "premium" I have that has me nervous each week.

He was 34 at 1/4 time and went to shower, like the rest of their side. Last week he was going horribly but a 5 minute purple patch pushed him over 100. What's it going to be next week? That's my reasoning behind wanting to dump - there's always something, and honestly, I'd rather just have someone who is much more reliable

Not doubting his scoring ability, ceiling or ability to average 100+, but I personally don't think he will be a Top 10-12 mid this year, so that coupled with the unnerving feeling of what to expect each week is why I'm punting him

Teams are getting better and better at negating his influence, and I don't want to have to cross my fingers each hoping he has a purple patch in the game to get his score high enough

That said, I understand he has played against two very good sides so far, and he will likely smash bottom 8 sides, but for me it's just the nerving uncertainty that I'm over. Better off taking someone like Neale or Conigs who you know will be much more consistent and have just as high a ceiling

[Mat0369]

Might be an overreaction, but you can't tell me there isn't something unsettling about having him every week? He is the one "premium" I have that has me nervous each week.

He was 34 at 1/4 time and went to shower, like the rest of their side. Last week he was going horribly but a 5 minute purple patch pushed him over 100. What's it going to be next week? That's my reasoning behind wanting to dump - there's always something, and honestly, I'd rather just have someone who is much more reliable

Not doubting his scoring ability, ceiling or ability to average 100+, but I personally don't think he will be a Top 10-12 mid this year, so that coupled with the unnerving feeling of what to expect each week is why I'm punting him

Teams are getting better and better at negating his influence, and I don't want to have to cross my fingers each hoping he has a purple patch in the game to get his score high enough

That said, I understand he has played against two very good sides so far, and he will likely smash bottom 8 sides, but for me it's just the nerving uncertainty that I'm over. Better off taking someone like Neale or Conigs who you know will be much more consistent and have just as high a ceiling

Say what? We're freaking turrible. We literally showed up for a quarter and a half in that game. It was pretty pathetic and the signs of a bottom 4 side.

[RaisyDaisy]

LMAO for some reason I had Collingwood in my mind, and Geelong last week

Brain is fried lol

If anything though, that just makes him even worse

[_wato]

Makes him even worse and he scored a 110? Now you're really clutching at straws.

I understand your points RD and they make sense. But the thing with Dusty is, he is 99% a shoe in for 22 games. Tick, one less worry. Has a great ceiling, tick. Has a relatively good floor, usually scores are 80 and above, tick. Plays for a top 4 side, tick. Kicks goals and comes clutch in the big moments, big tick. I made it very obvious why I liked him as a selection.

I raise you this question, you're willing to burn a trade to Cogs who has never averaged over 108 and has missed 43 games in 7 years prior to this year. Why is he such a good pick? He's inconsistent, take a look at his scores from last year. Neale is an obvious good pick, I agree. A lot of guys though have queries in some way or another.

At the end of the day, Dusty should finish this year with a 107-112 average in my opinion, may not be good enough for top 10 AVERAGE I agree. But in terms of total points he will be in the top 10 on that average alone.

[RaisyDaisy]

Makes him even worse and he scored a 110? Now you're really clutching at straws.

I understand your points RD and they make sense. But the thing with Dusty is, he is 99% a shoe in for 22 games. Tick, one less worry. Has a great ceiling, tick. Has a relatively good floor, usually scores are 80 and above, tick. Plays for a top 4 side, tick. Kicks goals and comes clutch in the big moments, big tick. I made it very obvious why I liked him as a selection.

I raise you this question, you're willing to burn a trade to Cogs who has never averaged over 108 and has missed 43 games in 7 years prior to this year. Why is he such a good pick? He's inconsistent, take a look at his scores from last year. Neale is an obvious good pick, I agree. A lot of guys though have queries in some way or another.

At the end of the day, Dusty should finish this year with a 107-112 average in my opinion, may not be good enough for top 10 AVERAGE I agree. But in terms of total points he will be in the top 10 on that average alone.

Well worse, in the sense that he got out of jail with 109 vs a lowly ranked side. He wasn't tracking well until a purple patch in the 3rd

Anyway, I wouldn't get Conigs tbh, shouldn't have said him - once Kelly returns I expect him to drop down

Neale, and even M.Crouch are the two I'd likely look at. I actually had Crouch in his spot for so damn long and only changed to Dusty the night before the match

Can't argue with anything you're saying either mate, because it's all true. It's just a gut feeling for me, I even said before the bounce last week that my gut was telling me I shouldn't have picked him, and then when I see how his first two games have been it just enforces those thoughts I've had

I guess the way I see it, if he does turn out to average 105-110, is it really that bad for me? It's cost me 1 trade - not the end of the world

But, if he doesn't avg that, then I come out a big winner. I guess I just don't see much downside in trading him, other than the use of 1 trade.

Like I've said though, the biggest thing for me is just having that unsettling feeling every single week moving forward. How is he going to go? Will he give me 70 or a 130? I guess I just haven't liked what I've seen from him so far, and he wasn't great last year either (I know he was playing hurt, but he was still out there every week so that excuse only counts for so much)

Outside of his Brownlow year, which is just not attainable to repeat, he is a 105 mid. Not bad for M8, but at the start of the season I want more from the prems I am starting. I can pick up 105 mids for cheaper later in the season

[RaisyDaisy]

The other thing I should say, we still have 8 games to go so anything can happen

If I get through the round unscathed, then I will trade him, because I should have all the right rookies which means I can do this luxury/correction trade but if other issues arise then he could end up staying  :-\

I wanted to trade Billings last year, but ended up having him for the entire year because there was always problems to deal with lol

[Mat0369]

All the rookies get dropped and we have to all field donuts at D6, M7/M8 and F6

[imjusflexin]

Not sure if this was posted already but this all but explains his putrid game last week.

https://www.theage.com.au/sport/afl/zach-merrett-played-round-one-with-a-virus-20190328-p518di.html

And to think I nearly traded him to Rocky..  ::)

[Bully]

Makes him even worse and he scored a 110? Now you're really clutching at straws.

I understand your points RD and they make sense. But the thing with Dusty is, he is 99% a shoe in for 22 games. Tick, one less worry. Has a great ceiling, tick. Has a relatively good floor, usually scores are 80 and above, tick. Plays for a top 4 side, tick. Kicks goals and comes clutch in the big moments, big tick. I made it very obvious why I liked him as a selection.

I raise you this question, you're willing to burn a trade to Cogs who has never averaged over 108 and has missed 43 games in 7 years prior to this year. Why is he such a good pick? He's inconsistent, take a look at his scores from last year. Neale is an obvious good pick, I agree. A lot of guys though have queries in some way or another.

At the end of the day, Dusty should finish this year with a 107-112 average in my opinion, may not be good enough for top 10 AVERAGE I agree. But in terms of total points he will be in the top 10 on that average alone.

Don't think Richmond will be top 4 this year, reckon they drift out to 6-10. Rance is such a huge loss, Nank doesn't have support, Houli looks like he'll miss some football. Richmond have been so fortunate with injuries up till now, all the signs are pointing to a tough year where that's concerned.

If I had Dusty I would trade him but I would at least look at turning him into a cash cow.

[oh_lol]

Riewoldt looks to be miss up to 8 weeks. Should we be expecting Dusty to be sitting forward even more now?

[Bully]

Riewoldt looks to be miss up to 8 weeks. Should we be expecting Dusty to be sitting forward even more now?

Caddy still a few weeks away so probably, I reckon Balta will come straight back but will cover Rance.

[quinny88]

Riewoldt looks to be miss up to 8 weeks. Should we be expecting Dusty to be sitting forward even more now?

Where did that come from? He hasn't even had a scan lol